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ubs234

01-06-2013 06:00 AM

Stillen vs Fast intentions! Bigger gains?

Stillen I know they advertise 18whp and Fast Intentions i'm not so sure, but I wanted to know people who had the Fast Intentions who have seen gains on their Z's. Which one is better for gains?

chrischhorn

01-06-2013 06:38 AM

Fast Intentions. Plus a lot of people say the Stillen is too quiet.

XwChriswX

01-06-2013 11:40 AM

A quick search will bring up several threads about this topic. :tiphat:

SPOHN

01-06-2013 12:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XwChriswX (Post 2096756)

A quick search will bring up several threads about this topic. :tiphat:

:iagree:

Use the search feature please

Z-Girl 12

01-06-2013 12:02 PM

Dude use the search button!

Bandit_Kaine

01-06-2013 12:43 PM

Instead of telling you to use the search button....again..

I'll just tell you that FI has the highest gains.

DEpointfive0

01-06-2013 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Bandit_Kaine (Post 2096850)

Instead of telling you to use the search button....again..

I'll just tell you that FI has the highest gains.

Search button

And advertised gains are BS, but what you like sound-wise, they all give great gains

I love the Stillen and die for it. If you want to buy one PM me

Myron_Nismo

01-06-2013 02:53 PM

Fast Intentions all the way man. Sounds better, makes more power, and looks waaayyyyy better to boot. The Stillen one looks like a crappy version of stock.

DEpointfive0

01-06-2013 02:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Myron_Nismo (Post 2097024)

Fast Intentions all the way man. Sounds better, makes more power, and looks waaayyyyy better to boot. The Stillen one looks like a crappy version of stock.

Whatever you say brother.

That's by far and away the worst assumption, or worst way of showing opinion I have ever seen...

XwChriswX

01-06-2013 03:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DEpointfive0 (Post 2097029)

Whatever you say brother.

That's by far and away the worst assumption, or worst way of showing opinion I have ever seen...

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There are several differences between the Stillen and Fast Intentions exhaust. First, we'll start with the Stillens. Stillen has made a name for themselves by releasing several different parts for several different enthusiast machines. For the 370Z they offered a CBE that posts decent gains and has a polished look and feel to it. When installing the stillen CBE, you'll notice it's appearance is a very "stock" look while still retaining some polished pizazz. The exhaust note while not being quite as muffled, has a deeper tone to it, more aggressive some say, than stock. Thanks to the free flowing and larger diameter piping, it gives the user looking for some increased performance power along with some stock feeling style. Simple to install, and relatively affordable. This exhaust would be perfect for those just looking for a good buy and not a lot of noise.

As for Fast Intentions, they have developed an exhaust that is one of, if not the the top seller for the 370Z. It's distinguished look, and ease of installation and fitment have made it grab the attention of vendors, drivers, onlookers, and mechanics alike. Fast Intentions manufactures exhausts for several performance minded vehicles, even promoting their own wicked mustang which in it's spare time pops wheelies for the kids on the sidewalk. It's dayjob is tearing up the drag strip. When it came time for the 370Z, the fabricators spared no corners while creating this exhaust. The finished product has been lauded by several installers and buyers for it's polished look, and meticulous dedication to perfection. The design has an appeal to it that shows power, but doesn't scream ricer. The first time a Z is fired up with a Fast Intentions exhaust installed, the owner can't help but smile from ear to ear. This smile is only surpassed when the car is put to the road and the dyno boosting the 370Z's performance with it's enlarged pipe diameter and free flow, resulting in a proudly aggressive exhaust tone.

But Fast Intentions didn't stop there. They took their exhaust 1 step further by offering Options. The user can choose between several different combinations depending on volume, or looks. There are the Non-Resonated for those who want to hear the full power of the VQ37 without restriction. For those looking to be able to still have a stereo, there are the 12" and 18" resonated options. Lastly, the user can choose between the tried/true Stainless Steel mufflers, or for a bit of eye candy, Carbon Fiber mufflers. The CF isn't as dense as the SS so it lets a bit more of the power through, at the same time changing the pitch of the exhaust giving the 370Z a more "exotic" sound. With over 600 exhaust systems sold and having a waiting list that is growing every day, Fast Intentions have made a product the market simply can't get enough of.

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NewtoZ's5

01-06-2013 03:36 PM

First off, why have you narrowed it down to only these two? Noise wise, they are at opposite ends of the spectrum. I originally wanted the Tanabe Medallion Touring since I have it on my S2000 and love the fit, finish and sound. Instead I went with the Invidia Gemini and couldn't be happier.

XwChriswX

01-06-2013 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by NewtoZ's5 (Post 2097088)

From the OP, he looks to be considering highest Gains as the determining factor. And those are 2 of the top contenders..

sparky

01-06-2013 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by XwChriswX (Post 2097086)

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There are several differences between the Stillen and Fast Intentions exhaust. First, we'll start with the Stillens. Stillen has made a name for themselves by releasing several different parts for several different enthusiast machines. For the 370Z they offered a CBE that posts decent gains and has a polished look and feel to it. When installing the stillen CBE, you'll notice it's appearance is a very "stock" look while still retaining some polished pizazz. The exhaust note while not being quite as muffled, has a deeper tone to it, more aggressive some say, than stock. Thanks to the free flowing and larger diameter piping, it gives the user looking for some increased performance power along with some stock feeling style. Simple to install, and relatively affordable. This exhaust would be perfect for those just looking for a good buy and not a lot of noise.

As for Fast Intentions, they have developed an exhaust that is one if the top sellers for the 370Z. It's distinguished look, and ease of installation and fitment have made it grab the attention of vendors, drivers, onlookers, and mechanics alike. Fast Intentions manufactures exhausts for several performance minded vehicles, even promoting their own wicked mustang which in it's spare time pops wheelies for the kids on the sidewalk. It's dayjob is tearing up the drag strip. When it came time for the 370Z, the fabricators spared no corners while creating this exhaust. The finished product has been lauded by several installers and buyers for it's polished look, and meticulous dedication to perfection. The design has an appeal to it that shows power, but doesn't scream ricer. The first time a Z is fired up with a Fast Intentions exhaust installed, the owner can't help but smile from ear to ear. This smile is only surpassed when the car is put to the road and the dyno boosting the 370Z's performance with it's enlarged pipe diameter and free flow, resulting in a proudly aggressive exhaust tone.

But Fast Intentions didn't stop there. They took their exhaust 1 step further by offering Options. The user can choose between several different combinations depending on volume, or looks. There are the Non-Resonated for those who want to hear the full power of the VQ37 without restriction. For those looking to be able to still have a stereo, there are the 12" and 18" resonated options. Lastly, the user can choose between the tried/true Stainless Steel mufflers, or for a bit of eye candy, Carbon Fiber mufflers. The CF isn't as dense as the SS so it lets a bit more of the power through, at the same time changing the pitch of the exhaust giving the 370Z a more "exotic" sound. With over 600 exhaust systems sold and having a waiting list that is growing every day, Fast Intentions have made a product the market simply can't get enough of.

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:rofl2: I think you win!

XwChriswX

01-06-2013 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by sparky (Post 2097121)

:rofl2: I think you win!

:tiphat:

:bowrofl:

DEpointfive0

01-06-2013 04:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XwChriswX (Post 2097086)

http://ragefaces.s3.amazonaws.com/50...e-accepted.png

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There are several differences between the Stillen and Fast Intentions exhaust. First, we'll start with the Stillens. Stillen has made a name for themselves by releasing several different parts for several different enthusiast machines. For the 370Z they offered a CBE that posts decent gains and has a polished look and feel to it. When installing the stillen CBE, you'll notice it's appearance is a very "stock" look while still retaining some polished pizazz. The exhaust note while not being quite as muffled, has a deeper tone to it, more aggressive some say, than stock. Thanks to the free flowing and larger diameter piping, it gives the user looking for some increased performance power along with some stock feeling style. Simple to install, and relatively affordable. This exhaust would be perfect for those just looking for a good buy and not a lot of noise.

As for Fast Intentions, they have developed an exhaust that is one if the top sellers for the 370Z. It's distinguished look, and ease of installation and fitment have made it grab the attention of vendors, drivers, onlookers, and mechanics alike. Fast Intentions manufactures exhausts for several performance minded vehicles, even promoting their own wicked mustang which in it's spare time pops wheelies for the kids on the sidewalk. It's dayjob is tearing up the drag strip. When it came time for the 370Z, the fabricators spared no corners while creating this exhaust. The finished product has been lauded by several installers and buyers for it's polished look, and meticulous dedication to perfection. The design has an appeal to it that shows power, but doesn't scream ricer. The first time a Z is fired up with a Fast Intentions exhaust installed, the owner can't help but smile from ear to ear. This smile is only surpassed when the car is put to the road and the dyno boosting the 370Z's performance with it's enlarged pipe diameter and free flow, resulting in a proudly aggressive exhaust tone.

But Fast Intentions didn't stop there. They took their exhaust 1 step further by offering Options. The user can choose between several different combinations depending on volume, or looks. There are the Non-Resonated for those who want to hear the full power of the VQ37 without restriction. For those looking to be able to still have a stereo, there are the 12" and 18" resonated options. Lastly, the user can choose between the tried/true Stainless Steel mufflers, or for a bit of eye candy, Carbon Fiber mufflers. The CF isn't as dense as the SS so it lets a bit more of the power through, at the same time changing the pitch of the exhaust giving the 370Z a more "exotic" sound. With over 600 exhaust systems sold and having a waiting list that is growing every day, Fast Intentions have made a product the market simply can't get enough of.

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Brother, that wasn't the worst, that was amazing

I'd sticky your damn response if I could

XwChriswX

01-06-2013 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by DEpointfive0 (Post 2097134)

Brother, that wasn't the worst, that was amazing

I'd sticky your damn response if I could

:icon18: I wonder if I should send it to Tony to use on the website... :icon17:

DEpointfive0

01-06-2013 04:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XwChriswX (Post 2097139)

:icon18: I wonder if I should send it to Tony to use on the website... :icon17:

Lol

Well a huge disadvantage of the FI is that it effectively lowers your car. That's why a lot of people bust the cans

And I like the beefier tips of the Stillen if we're going to throw a bit of BS in the mix

XwChriswX

01-06-2013 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by DEpointfive0 (Post 2097151)

Actually, it doesn't. I have the first gen F.I.'s (before tony redesigned it and raised the lowest point 3/8") and have [knock on wood] never scraped them once. The second gen F.I.'s only give you even more clearance comparable to stock. As with any lowered vehicle, scraping is 90% of the time driver error vs lowered part. As long as you approach hills/dips and bumps slowly, with an angled approach, you'll be fine.

Stillen
http://370zexhaust.com/370z-stillen-exhaust-on-car.jpg

Fast Intentions
http://www.speedysgarage.net/370zweb...catback_12.jpg

Very similar tips and height.

ubs234

01-06-2013 06:58 PM

I searched multiple times lol. I couldn't find the answer I was looking for. That is why i posted this thread. So thanks to all that helped me out!! :D

XwChriswX

01-06-2013 07:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ubs234 (Post 2097422)

I searched multiple times lol. I couldn't find the answer I was looking for. That is why i posted this thread. So thanks to all that helped me out!! :D

Were you just honestly looking for which one made the most gains by itself?

Or are you trying to see which one paired with mods X, Y, & Z will net the highest gains?

DEpointfive0

01-06-2013 07:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XwChriswX (Post 2097157)

Fast Intentions is still a LOT lower

The gap to the bumper is much closer though

XwChriswX

01-06-2013 08:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DEpointfive0 (Post 2097496)

Fast Intentions is still a LOT lower

The gap to the bumper is much closer though

You must be looking at bottom of the cans vs bottom of the cans, but if you'll notice the pipes from the Stillen muffler to the mid pip dip Down before going forward...

DEpointfive0

01-06-2013 08:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XwChriswX (Post 2097498)

You must be looking at bottom of the cans vs bottom of the cans, but if you'll notice the pipes from the Stillen muffler to the mid pip dip Down before going forward...

This:

Quote:

Originally Posted by DEpointfive0 (Post 2097151)

Well a huge disadvantage of the FI is that it effectively lowers your car. That's why a lot of people bust the cans

dP3NGU1N

01-06-2013 08:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DEpointfive0 (Post 2097496)

Fast Intentions is still a LOT lower

The gap to the bumper is much closer though

Unforunately the focal length on those two images don't match so it's actually really not a good comparison image. Was there some propaganda (see: advert) from FI somewhere regarding the cans not actually being the lowest point of the car? I seem to recall something of the sort but not exactly where. The gist is that basically something else would be bottoming out if you hit your muffler.

DEpointfive0

01-06-2013 08:05 PM

In any case, the ONLY thing OP should care about is the sound they make, all "gains" are subjective IMO...

Stillen may get beat for quality a lot of the time, but they are also mass producers... That being said, the quality of both is good, higher with the FI, but... Yeahhh...

Lets stop beating a dead horse
/endthread

XwChriswX

01-06-2013 08:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dP3NGU1N (Post 2097502)

The lowest point of the exhaust for F.I. is seated right in parallel with the rear Axel, so as you go over a bump, Axel goes up, exhaust goes up. If it won't scrape stock, it won't scrape F.I. Provided the driver approaches said bump at a reduced speed so that the impact isn't faster than the suspension can respond to.

Like I said before 90% of scrapes are driver error.

DEpointfive0

01-06-2013 08:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XwChriswX (Post 2097506)

90% of scrapes are driver error.

True, most people seem to destroy the V-shaped cans of any exhaust over stock or the Stillens...

Again, can we end the thread? We are still beating a dead horse, lol

XwChriswX

01-06-2013 08:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DEpointfive0 (Post 2097507)

True, most people seem to destroy the V-shaped cans of any exhaust over stock or the Stillens...

Again, can we end the thread? We are still beating a dead horse, lol

My horse is amazing. http://www.the370z.com/members/frost...zing-horse.gif

DEpointfive0

01-06-2013 08:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XwChriswX (Post 2097508)

My horse is amazing. http://www.the370z.com/members/frost...zing-horse.gif

Cócksucker

XwChriswX

01-06-2013 08:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DEpointfive0 (Post 2097511)

Cócksucker

:yum:

Rusty

01-07-2013 10:02 AM

Laughing my a$$ off at you two. Thanks for making my morning. :tiphat:

enkei2k

01-07-2013 10:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ubs234 (Post 2096517)

Stillen I know they advertise 18whp and Fast Intentions i'm not so sure, but I wanted to know people who had the Fast Intentions who have seen gains on their Z's. Which one is better for gains?

Look at the F.I thread for their dynos stock vs FI. First post in thread.

http://www.the370z.com/intake-exhaus...continued.html

SS_Firehawk

01-07-2013 12:17 PM

If the exhaust isn't chambered and the piping is the same, the power difference will be within a few hp. Only the bends will slow things down. Regardless, of the two mentioned, Fast Intentions makes the superior product. I would also recommend looking at Motordyne's offering as well. It has a HFC option as well and makes comparable gains. The big difference with Motordyne is their piping gets larger as it gets further away from the engine and they claim it will not rasp with TP's or HFC's.

DarkJak

01-07-2013 01:35 PM

Also consider that the Stillen is one of the few exhausts that are heavier than the stock unit, while just about every other one I've seen is lighter by 5-20 lbs. By itself it doesn't matter too much, but every bit adds up if weight loss is also a concern.

I'd second the suggestion for the Motordyne CBE. Their sound and gains are competitive with Fast intentions, while having added modularity. I'd have gone with them had I had a larger budget.

ubs234

01-07-2013 07:25 PM

Is fast intentions cbe CARB legal?

XwChriswX

01-07-2013 07:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ubs234 (Post 2099116)

Is fast intentions cbe CARB legal?

The CBE alone should be because you're still using Stock cats. When you start getting into LTH, HFC, TP territory, that's when you start going beyond legal limits in Cali.

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