thoughts on aem eti vs stillen gen3

AlexRaymond19 · 01-04-2013, 10:42 PM

I wouldn't worry about posting numbers with the bumper off... Do you drive the car with the bumper off? No, so it only makes for a pretty number... I may be a little biased, but i say go with the Gen III's, a lot of people have them, and they have worked out just fine. The cutting is very minor and easy to do, and you do not have to change your windshield washer tank. As for water getting sucked up, with the gen III's it is nearly impossible, and if it was i would have done it already. I live in Maine, and it gets very wet here... Huge puddles everywhere, i have not had an issue so far. GO FOR THE GIII's!!!!!!!!!

DEpointfive0 · 01-04-2013, 11:35 PM

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Originally Posted by AlexRaymond19

I wouldn't worry about posting numbers with the bumper off... Do you drive the car with the bumper off? No, so it only makes for a pretty number... I may be a little biased, but i say go with the Gen III's, a lot of people have them, and they have worked out just fine. The cutting is very minor and easy to do, and you do not have to change your windshield washer tank. As for water getting sucked up, with the gen III's it is nearly impossible, and if it was i would have done it already. I live in Maine, and it gets very wet here... Huge puddles everywhere, i have not had an issue so far. GO FOR THE GIII's!!!!!!!!!

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XwChriswX · 01-05-2013, 05:11 AM

The AEM's make me cautious because why do we need to "trick" the ECU? Isn't that the point of getting a tune is adjusting the ECU to your mods... Oh well. Not to mention they use the same filter placement as the Injens in the spaces in front of the wheels which get no Direct airflow unless you make modifications. So you're sticking them in a closet without access to free air... Kinda shooting yourself in the foot imho.

As for the Stillen Gen III's, they do make good power, slightly more difficult to install due to needing to expand the air duct in the front dam. But it's not any different than having to swap washer fluid reservoirs for the Injen/AEM so it's 6 to one, half a dozen to another.

The biggest problem with the stillens is Cost. $500 for the set, then if you wanna get them powder coated that only adds to it...

But don't forget there are other options out there. Akuma, Takeda, and a few other vendors are bringing their intakes online here soon. So if you're still debating, it might help you to take a gander over in their directions.

With the Takeda it's the same piping as a Stillen, so Plus. But it's only a Single filter both TB's draw from, to me personally thats a push at best, if not a minus. But to each unto their own...

With the Akuma's, they are a single pipe design, with similar filter placement as the Stillens. Both use a K&N oiled filter so thats up to the user if they want that or a Dry filter. I'll most likely be going dry filter when I get my intakes.

Hotrodz · 01-05-2013, 07:35 AM

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Originally Posted by XwChriswX

The AEM's make me cautious because why do we need to "trick" the ECU? Isn't that the point of getting a tune is adjusting the ECU to your mods... Oh well. Not to mention they use the same filter placement as the Injens in the spaces in front of the wheels which get no Direct airflow unless you make modifications. So you're sticking them in a closet without access to free air... Kinda shooting yourself in the foot imho.

I totally agree with this statement. I have had an AEM CAI installed for about three months and just removed it yesterday as I could not get it to work without the check engine light coming on and having problems with air flow. There was quite a bit of hesitation during shift changes and the engine would periodically shut down when under load going up hill. After discussing the issue with Seb at SpecialtyZ, he recommended I remove the CAI and replace it with the OEM set up and get K&N drop in filters since I'm getting a tune anyway and with the mods I have the horsepower loss is minimal and the vehicle will perform better. A very expensive lesson for me.

As the saying goes "keep it simple...stupid!" Got Z1 silicone post-MAF intake hose on the way as well. This setup has been suggested by many on the forum.

XwChriswX · 01-05-2013, 07:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Hotrodz

I totally agree with this statement. I have had an AEM CAI installed for about three months and just removed it yesterday as I could not get it to work without the check engine light coming on and having problems with air flow. There was quite a bit of hesitation during shift changes and the engine would periodically shut down when under load going up hill. After discussing the issue with Seb at SpecialtyZ, he recommended I remove the CAI and replace it with the OEM set up and get K&N drop in filters since I'm getting a tune anyway and with the mods I have the horsepower loss is minimal and the vehicle will perform better. A very expensive lesson for me.

As the saying goes "keep it simple...stupid!" Got Z1 silicone post-MAF intake hose on the way as well. This setup has been suggested by many on the forum.

Might be too late to do so, but I wonder if you still had the AEM's on, and then got a tune With them, if it would solve some of the issues?

Hotrodz · 01-05-2013, 08:26 AM

Yup, that was what I was holding out for, but the tuner suggest I switch it out because the MAFS is always trying to adjust the ECU with AEM's setup. He suggested gen 3s if I felt the need to have an aftermarket CAI. I think it the whole law of diminishing returns as you add mods related airflow should equal thing out since I have ART pipes and a better flowing CBE. The whp loss should be no more than 5. It's more about peace of mind at this point for me. I don't track, but I want my car to perform the way it looks!!!

edub370 · 01-05-2013, 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Hotrodz

I totally agree with this statement. I have had an AEM CAI installed for about three months and just removed it yesterday as I could not get it to work without the check engine light coming on and having problems with air flow. There was quite a bit of hesitation during shift changes and the engine would periodically shut down when under load going up hill. After discussing the issue with Seb at SpecialtyZ, he recommended I remove the CAI and replace it with the OEM set up and get K&N drop in filters since I'm getting a tune anyway and with the mods I have the horsepower loss is minimal and the vehicle will perform better. A very expensive lesson for me.

As the saying goes "keep it simple...stupid!" Got Z1 silicone post-MAF intake hose on the way as well. This setup has been suggested by many on the forum.

enter, injen intakes.... like aem, without all the hesitation/tricking computer bs. only water issues i had is when i parked my car on a downhill slope in about 4 hours of rain, car just sputtered a little. let it sit overnight and it was fine. no intake has ever "hydrolocked" a 370z. ever.... even tho that phrase gets tossed around on this site like a $2 whore.

the only thing i don't like about stillens, is they are kinda ugly imo. why do they have a random coupler in the middle of the intake?? BUT, u can't argue with the great track record that intake has had.

if i had to get an intake right now, it would be akumas. simply the sharpest looking intake available at the moment.

they will all perform within 3-4 hp of each other, so differences are negligable. just boils down to opinion.

01-04-2013, 10:42 PM	#1 (permalink)
AlexRaymond19 Track Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Maine Posts: 771 Drives: 2010 Nissan 370z Rep Power: 15	I wouldn't worry about posting numbers with the bumper off... Do you drive the car with the bumper off? No, so it only makes for a pretty number... I may be a little biased, but i say go with the Gen III's, a lot of people have them, and they have worked out just fine. The cutting is very minor and easy to do, and you do not have to change your windshield washer tank. As for water getting sucked up, with the gen III's it is nearly impossible, and if it was i would have done it already. I live in Maine, and it gets very wet here... Huge puddles everywhere, i have not had an issue so far. GO FOR THE GIII's!!!!!!!!! DEpointfive0 likes this. __________________ 2010 370Z Touring MT \| Stillen \| Motordyne \| Momentum\| Z1 \| Fast Intentions \| Advant Garde \| RE11 \| Swift \| SPC \| Quaife \| Whiteline \| Evo R \| 322RWHP 259ft-lb Mustang

01-05-2013, 05:11 AM	#3 (permalink)
XwChriswX WFLYIDNNE Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: In The Fastlane Posts: 50,648 Drives: 02 GDB WRX Rep Power: 452	The AEM's make me cautious because why do we need to "trick" the ECU? Isn't that the point of getting a tune is adjusting the ECU to your mods... Oh well. Not to mention they use the same filter placement as the Injens in the spaces in front of the wheels which get no Direct airflow unless you make modifications. So you're sticking them in a closet without access to free air... Kinda shooting yourself in the foot imho. As for the Stillen Gen III's, they do make good power, slightly more difficult to install due to needing to expand the air duct in the front dam. But it's not any different than having to swap washer fluid reservoirs for the Injen/AEM so it's 6 to one, half a dozen to another. The biggest problem with the stillens is Cost. $500 for the set, then if you wanna get them powder coated that only adds to it... But don't forget there are other options out there. Akuma, Takeda, and a few other vendors are bringing their intakes online here soon. So if you're still debating, it might help you to take a gander over in their directions. With the Takeda it's the same piping as a Stillen, so Plus. But it's only a Single filter both TB's draw from, to me personally thats a push at best, if not a minus. But to each unto their own... With the Akuma's, they are a single pipe design, with similar filter placement as the Stillens. Both use a K&N oiled filter so thats up to the user if they want that or a Dry filter. I'll most likely be going dry filter when I get my intakes. DEpointfive0 likes this. __________________ Bonnie - Stage 2, Audio build coming this fall! R.I.P. Abby 3/29/10 - 3/30/14

01-05-2013, 08:26 AM	#6 (permalink)
Hotrodz A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: NW, AZ Posts: 9,330 Drives: 10 Nissan 370z Nismo Rep Power: 2684385	Yup, that was what I was holding out for, but the tuner suggest I switch it out because the MAFS is always trying to adjust the ECU with AEM's setup. He suggested gen 3s if I felt the need to have an aftermarket CAI. I think it the whole law of diminishing returns as you add mods related airflow should equal thing out since I have ART pipes and a better flowing CBE. The whp loss should be no more than 5. It's more about peace of mind at this point for me. I don't track, but I want my car to perform the way it looks!!! __________________ *Fast Intentions TT Installed and Tuned by Seb at SpecialtyZ 610whp 560tq:\|Fast Intentions 3" TT-TDX*\|SpecialtyZ/Fast Intentions 72 Row Oil Cooler\|SZ 6 Puck Clutch & Flywheel\|3GsCustoms\|Z1\|Wavetrac\|Hotchkis\|Whiteline \|Blitz\|Fortune Auto 500\|Fujimura\|SPL\|H&R\|TK\|TWM\|RPM Rollbar\|Sparco\|Next Level Performance\|TrackSpec\|AeroFlow Dynamics\|Pioneer\|

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