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Z370Z011 11-06-2012 04:08 PM

Stillen Gen3 intake alternative
 
hey everyone, so I've been meaning to buy an intake and was leaning towards the stillen G3, but the more i think about it the less i feel like paying close to 600$ for an intake. i love the HP results and the design is pretty cool as well.. but idk.
so my question is, what are the next best alternatives? as far as "best bang for your buck" goes and still be able to get close enough HP numbers?

thanks :tiphat:

Zuppy51 11-06-2012 04:19 PM

AEM ETI CAI. Very good Dyno Number, no chopping of your shrowd, pretty straight forward install. Win all the way for me.

http://www.the370z.com/nismo-370z/39...ir-intake.html

Under 400 on ebay with free shipping.

Z370Z011 11-06-2012 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Zuppy51 (Post 2003792)
AEM ETI CAI. Very good Dyno Number, no chopping of your shrowd, pretty straight forward install. Win all the way for me.

http://www.the370z.com/nismo-370z/39...ir-intake.html

Under 400 on ebay with free shipping.

hey thanks! i:tup: :tiphat:

Z370Z011 11-06-2012 04:46 PM

:happydance: found it for 385 free shipping:driving:

SoCalBoy 11-06-2012 04:52 PM

I found a GEN 3 intake for way under $600....pm FBNISSAN :tiphat:

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Originally Posted by Z370Z011 (Post 2003767)
hey everyone, so I've been meaning to buy an intake and was leaning towards the stillen G3, but the more i think about it the less i feel like paying close to 600$ for an intake. i love the HP results and the design is pretty cool as well.. but idk.
so my question is, what are the next best alternatives? as far as "best bang for your buck" goes and still be able to get close enough HP numbers?

thanks :tiphat:


Z370Z011 11-06-2012 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by SoCalBoy (Post 2003859)
I found a GEN 3 intake for way under $600....pm FBNISSAN :tiphat:

just did! thanks!! :tiphat:

Hotrodz 11-06-2012 07:31 PM

I just had an AEM CAI installed and lovin the look and performance along with ART pipes and AAM short tails. Don't think you can go wrong with either Gen III or AEM.

Z370Z011 11-06-2012 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Hotrodz (Post 2004063)
I just had an AEM CAI installed and lovin the look and performance along with ART pipes and AAM short tails. Don't think you can go wrong with either Gen III or AEM.

Hey! You have ART pipes.
How do you like them with the short tails? Ive been debating on getting them but feel like it may be too loud? And do you notice any hp gains?

Hotrodz 11-06-2012 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Z370Z011 (Post 2004150)
Hey! You have ART pipes.
How do you like them with the short tails? Ive been debating on getting them but feel like it may be too loud? And do you notice any hp gains?

I love them with the short tails! They are loud, but sound awesome. Every rodder, tuner, and mechanic I meet just goes crazy over the sound. The combination of the ART pipes and the CAI definitely adds to horse power gains and responsiveness according to my butt dyno. It is noticeable from take off through red line. You can check out the sound in this section, within My Nismo with AAM Short tails.

tonythetiger 11-06-2012 10:46 PM

do u have to replace washer fluid reservoir with aem?? i have the g3 with no issues, i honestly feel stillens is the best out there

Hotrodz 11-06-2012 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by tonythetiger (Post 2004417)
do u have to replace washer fluid reservoir with aem?? i have the g3 with no issues, i honestly feel stillens is the best out there

Yes, they provide you with a new reservoir and bracket. It looks the same just in a different place. I don't have any experience with the Gen IIIs, but chose AEM after reading several different reviews. There is a good one on both Gen III and AEM on the MotoIq web site. They both are quality products. I also leaned toward the AEM because its what I have on my GMC diesel truck as well.

Z370Z011 11-06-2012 11:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hotrodz (Post 2004388)
I love them with the short tails! They are loud, but sound awesome. Every rodder, tuner, and mechanic I meet just goes crazy over the sound. The combination of the ART pipes and the CAI definitely adds to horse power gains and responsiveness according to my butt dyno. It is noticeable from take off through red line. You can check out the sound in this section, within My Nismo with AAM Short tails.

is there any major rasp or drone?
I'm sold either way :happydance:

SS_Firehawk 11-07-2012 03:42 AM

AEM's have a big advantage where it corrects your MAF to the new intake size without tuning. I found mine powder coated in dark grey for $372+ shipping. Minimal gains low and mid, but after 6500, it was substantial, even with a full header & exhaust system already installed. Only issue I ran in to was because my oil cooler was so big, I couldn't use the new windshield washer reservoir.

Hotrodz 11-07-2012 06:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Z370Z011 (Post 2004438)
is there any major rasp or drone?
I'm sold either way :happydance:

You will definitely get some rasp and drone from the short tails. There should be none associated with the CAI. The CAI will make the sound of your exhaust more aggressive, a deeper throaty tone.

roy'sz 11-07-2012 07:13 PM

With the direction of the aem intakes what are the chances of moisture hitting the filter during rain season. In my case I'm concerned about getting moiature into the engine

SS_Firehawk 11-07-2012 09:00 PM

It's a non issue unless you fjord rivers with your car. No issues during a wash either.

Jordo! 11-07-2012 10:04 PM

Best bang for the buck and greatest ease of installation remains a set of smooth tubes (e.g., Cobb) and K&N panel filters (details in the Proven Power Dyno Thread)

http://www.the370z.com/members/jordo...ed-comparo.jpg

Or, if you can find a set of G3's or a similar design for around $300, go with those, as you'll probably pick up 6-8 more whp.

I wouldn't ever run any intakes that have the filters by the wheels, as the AEM one does, especially if you live in an area prone to flooding.

I also have a (presently stalled) intake project underway with Swift Racing that will utilize CNC'd bell mouths to improve flow, but no idea when those will be made.

gz06 11-08-2012 07:58 AM

My friend bought his stillen gen 3 for his g37 here Stillen GEN3 Ultra Long Tube Dual Intake Kit Nissan 370Z Z34 . its 509.00 with free shipping.

Streetlife 11-08-2012 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Jordo! (Post 2005946)
Best bang for the buck and greatest ease of installation remains a set of smooth tubes (e.g., Cobb) and K&N panel filters (details in the Proven Power Dyno Thread)

http://www.the370z.com/members/jordo...ed-comparo.jpg

Or, if you can find a set of G3's or a similar design for around $300, go with those, as you'll probably pick up 6-8 more whp.

I wouldn't ever run any intakes that have the filters by the wheels, as the AEM one does, especially if you live in an area prone to flooding.

I also have a (presently stalled) intake project underway with Swift Racing that will utilize CNC'd bell mouths to improve flow, but no idea when those will be made.

:iagree:, love my Z1 Post MAF tubes with K&N air filters, and my matching other silicone hoses from Z1 too, just like Tanabe they appreciate their customers.

roy'sz 11-08-2012 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Streetlife (Post 2006456)
:iagree:, love my Z1 Post MAF tubes with K&N air filters, and my matching other silicone hoses from Z1 too, just like Tanabe they appreciate their customers.

There isn't any gains though off of the silicone tubes right? I mean it really doesn't make sense. HPS said there is a 6 something gain with both hp and tq. Input?

SS_Firehawk 11-08-2012 11:42 AM

MAF tubes help, but it isn't very beneficial by themselves. Adding them to K&N drop ins, the pair seems to be greater than the sum of their parts. Though as you can see from the graph Jordo posted, there is still some restriction at high rpm and the intakes are primarily the reason why the gains plateau. Keep in mind this is only in the last 1,000rpm of the power band. CAI's will not plateau until just before redline, but it's not a restriction of the intakes at that point.

roy'sz 11-08-2012 11:43 AM

Oh ok cool thanx for the info. Im sitting on the fence right now between cai or just keeping my drop ins and getting post maf tubes.

Jordo! 11-08-2012 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by roy'sz (Post 2006595)
Oh ok cool thanx for the info. Im sitting on the fence right now between cai or just keeping my drop ins and getting post maf tubes.

Gains for drop ins alone will be a few whp less throughout. If you can get the smooth tubes for around $100 and the panel filters for around $100, for $200 its a LOT of bang for the buck, especially considering how easy it is to install and swap out for cleaning.

If you are on a tight budget and can only pick one, I'd say go for the panel filters alone.

Although you will gain a good bit more with the G3's, for me the price difference just isn't justified -- more than twice as much for 6-8 more whp and the hassle of removing the bumper.

If you can find a set used ($300ish ball park) I'd say its worth it, but only then.

I'm going to see about the delay in the Swift racing intake and see if I can get that moving again -- details here http://www.the370z.com/mid-atlantic-...-test-car.html

If I can get that moving again -- I think that would be the best of all worlds.

Calling Swift to express interest certainly couldn't hurt... :p


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