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ZMan8 04-04-2012 06:14 PM

:tup:
Quote:

Originally Posted by speedfreek (Post 1640620)
Fixed....sorry about that guys :p

I guess I was too anxious to post. :excited:

It will be Christmas in July!


PaulZ370 04-04-2012 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by 370ZilverZ (Post 1640584)
Here's what I used and it was a breeze.

http://www.the370z.com/attachment.ph...1&d=1333580232

A set of Grip Tite Sockets with an array of extensions ending with a 3/4" Ratchet. YES. Three Quarter Inch. Torque Baby!

That's them - aka Bolt Extractors...

bdbaity 04-05-2012 07:29 AM

Installed my 12" TDX yesterday!!! Thanks Tony!!!

Love the sound! Real throaty & powerful. Its a little too loud for my liking under 3k rpm. Does it quite down a bit once it breaks in more??? As of now I have about 85 miles on it.

If not, does anyone want to trade out an 18" resonator for 12"???

The Dimer 04-05-2012 07:58 AM

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Originally Posted by bdbaity (Post 1641373)
Installed my 12" TDX yesterday!!! Thanks Tony!!!

Love the sound! Real throaty & powerful. Its a little too loud for my liking under 3k rpm. Does it quite down a bit once it breaks in more??? As of now I have about 85 miles on it.

If not, does anyone want to trade out an 18" resonator for 12"???

I don't know long it takes or how much it will quiet down, but it will get quieter after break-in. I'd say give it some time and see what you think.

Also, you need to update your sig. :tup:

mtaxelson 04-05-2012 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by bdbaity (Post 1641373)
Installed my 12" TDX yesterday!!! Thanks Tony!!!


If not, does anyone want to trade out an 18" resonator for 12"???

I may be interested in that...im in south jersey.

The Dimer 04-05-2012 10:41 AM

Just realized I'm two days into my estimated shipping window. :excited:

TypeOne 04-05-2012 10:50 AM

Had the opportunity to install one of these kits on Pauls Z the other evening and I'm super impressed with the quality and fitment of this system. It was the nicest, best fitting exhaust I've installed on a 370.. hands down. The Stillen was a piece of junk compared to this thing.

I applaud Fast Intentions attention to quality parts. Keep it up guys.

KaienZ34 04-05-2012 10:58 AM

Wanna help with my catback no cats?:stirthepot::roflpuke2:

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J/K;)

ZMan8 04-05-2012 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by The Dimer (Post 1641766)
Just realized I'm two days into my estimated shipping window. :excited:

Woot :tup: you should definitely come out to our cars and coffee..everybody either already does or soon will run a FI cbe

The Dimer 04-05-2012 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by ZMan8 (Post 1641872)
Woot :tup: you should definitely come out to our cars and coffee..everybody either already does or soon will run a FI cbe

I plan on being at the meet on the 22nd.

ZMan8 04-05-2012 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by The Dimer (Post 1641913)
I plan on being at the meet on the 22nd.

:tup: good:tiphat:

PaulZ370 04-05-2012 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by TypeOne (Post 1641776)
Had the opportunity to install one of these kits on Pauls Z the other evening and I'm super impressed with the quality and fitment of this system. It was the nicest, best fitting exhaust I've installed on a 370.. hands down. The Stillen was a piece of junk compared to this thing.

I applaud Fast Intentions attention to quality parts. Keep it up guys.

:iagree: The money I spent on this was very well spent no doubt!!

Thanks Dave for your and Brad's efforts in installing this on my Z. I owe you guys big time :tup: :tup:

xXxCarBoyxXx 04-05-2012 12:34 PM

I'm sure this has been answered somewhere but I've been looking around and there are a lot of mixed answers flying around.
I'm looking to get the Fast Intentions CBE with the 12 inch resonators in the near future and I'll be installing Post-MAF tubes and k&n drop ins. I wont be changing the headers and I probably won't be getting HFC's any time soon.
With these upgrades will I need to get a tune? Will the car run fine and not too lean with the stock tune?
Thanks :)

NBZ34 04-05-2012 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by xXxCarBoyxXx (Post 1642027)
I'm sure this has been answered somewhere but I've been looking around and there are a lot of mixed answers flying around.
I'm looking to get the Fast Intentions CBE with the 12 inch resonators in the near future and I'll be installing Post-MAF tubes and k&n drop ins. I wont be changing the headers and I probably won't be getting HFC's any time soon.
With these upgrades will I need to get a tune? Will the car run fine and not too lean with the stock tune?
Thanks :)

I would if you are replacing the cats with TPs or HFCs to go along with the exhaust.

TerribleONE 04-05-2012 12:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xXxCarBoyxXx (Post 1642027)
I'm sure this has been answered somewhere but I've been looking around and there are a lot of mixed answers flying around.
I'm looking to get the Fast Intentions CBE with the 12 inch resonators in the near future and I'll be installing Post-MAF tubes and k&n drop ins. I wont be changing the headers and I probably won't be getting HFC's any time soon.
With these upgrades will I need to get a tune? Will the car run fine and not too lean with the stock tune?
Thanks :)

you will be fine with no tune until you add HFCs..

The Dimer 04-05-2012 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by TerribleONE (Post 1642050)
you will be fine with no tune until you add HFCs..

So you're saying that filters and Post-MAF tubes are enough to lean out the air fuel ratio with full exhaust mods? I thought is was aftermarket intakes that did this because they have larger MAF sections/different MAF locations, or will anything that frees up the intake a little be an issue?

Just wondering if I can just save up for long tubes or if I need to add the cost of a tune on there too.

TerribleONE 04-05-2012 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by The Dimer (Post 1642066)
So you're saying that filters and Post-MAF tubes are enough to lean out the air fuel ratio with full exhaust mods? I thought is was aftermarket intakes that did this because they have larger MAF sections/different MAF locations, or will anything that frees up the intake a little be an issue?

Just wondering if I can just save up for long tubes or if I need to add the cost of a tune on there too.

this is strictly my opinion. There are plenty of guys running all those mods with no tune however I imagine their AFRs are pretty terrible. If it were my car, no matter what intake (besides drop ins) and a full exhaust, I would tune it.. Its better to be safe than sorry

xXxCarBoyxXx 04-05-2012 12:49 PM

^^thanks for the quick responses. Alright cool, yeah i'll try to fit the HFC's into the budget too.

Also one more thing, If I do the modshack fang vent DIY with the drop ins and the tubes, the performance different between the stillen g3's will be minimal correct? Sorry if I'm asking in the wrong place since this is the F.I. thread.

bdbaity 04-05-2012 01:15 PM

I just put my exhaust on yesterday!!!!!!!!!! OMG the sound is amazing. Its loud for the first 200 or so miles and then quiets down!!!! Best exhaust ever!!!

PaulZ370 04-05-2012 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by TerribleONE (Post 1642074)
this is strictly my opinion. There are plenty of guys running all those mods with no tune however I imagine their AFRs are pretty terrible. If it were my car, no matter what intake (besides drop ins) and a full exhaust, I would tune it.. Its better to be safe than sorry

I just contacted Nissan regarding this, having just upgraded my HFC/CBE and have a K&N Typhoon Intake. I told the Service Manager whom I trust that I just upgraded my exhaust, but its nothing more than what a NISMO would ordinarily be. He stated emphatically that there is no need for a Tune. Again the pharse is " NO NEED " for a tune. You won't burn a valve or damage your engine simply because of a simple Intake and exhaust upgrade. Unless you go Turbo, Supercharger, Nitrous or anything beyond of what a VQ37VHR is asked to do by the factory, the car should be fine. If you track the car and push it to it's limits, then it's a whole different ball game, and you may want to tune because you are looking at optimal power, not just a fun ride.... You can still tune it if you want regardless, but herein lies the risk. You tune it, something happens, Nissan can claim you tampered with the programming on the computer and hence your warranty is void.

Now it's up to each individual to make up his/her mind what they want to do. Upgrade hell? Here it is... Decision making time... :icon14:

The Dimer 04-05-2012 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by PaulZ370 (Post 1642197)
I just contacted Nissan regarding this, having just upgraded my HFC/CBE and have a K&N Typhoon Intake. I told the Service Manager whom I trust that I just upgraded my exhaust, but its nothing more than what a NISMO would ordinarily be. He stated emphatically that there is no need for a Tune. Again the pharse is " NO NEED " for a tune. You won't burn a valve or damage your engine simply because of a simple Intake and exhaust upgrade. Unless you go Turbo, Supercharger, Nitrous or anything beyond of what a VQ37VHR is asked to do by the factory, the car should be fine. If you track the car and push it to it's limits, then it's a whole different ball game, and you may want to tune because you are looking at optimal power, not just a fun ride.... You can still tune it if you want regardless, but herein lies the risk. You tune it, something happens, Nissan can claim you tampered with the programming on the computer and hence your warranty is void.

Now it's up to each individual to make up his/her mind what they want to do. Upgrade hell? Here it is... Decision making time... :icon14:

The worst part about having a warranty is the thread of losing it.

gomer_110 04-05-2012 01:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xXxCarBoyxXx (Post 1642027)
I'm sure this has been answered somewhere but I've been looking around and there are a lot of mixed answers flying around.
I'm looking to get the Fast Intentions CBE with the 12 inch resonators in the near future and I'll be installing Post-MAF tubes and k&n drop ins. I wont be changing the headers and I probably won't be getting HFC's any time soon.
With these upgrades will I need to get a tune? Will the car run fine and not too lean with the stock tune?
Thanks :)

Per my discussion with Tony when I ordered my LTH's and CBE, you DO NOT "need" a tune. He even went as far as saying from their testing, it was only the Stillen Gen III's that when added to full exhaust mods would need a tune. If you're that concerned about it give Tony a call and discuss it with him. He was more than helpful back when I ordered mine.

The Dimer 04-05-2012 01:50 PM

I'll be sure to speak with him about it when I order my headers. I just need to get to one of these Chicago meets so I can here them in person. I seriously think with everyone there you could almost hear all the different combinations.

xXxCarBoyxXx 04-05-2012 02:07 PM

Thanks for the response guys, I'll call Tony for sure when I want to order.

Speedy 04-05-2012 02:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PaulZ370 (Post 1642197)
I just contacted Nissan regarding this, having just upgraded my HFC/CBE and have a K&N Typhoon Intake. I told the Service Manager whom I trust that I just upgraded my exhaust, but its nothing more than what a NISMO would ordinarily be. He stated emphatically that there is no need for a Tune. Again the pharse is " NO NEED " for a tune. You won't burn a valve or damage your engine simply because of a simple Intake and exhaust upgrade. Unless you go Turbo, Supercharger, Nitrous or anything beyond of what a VQ37VHR is asked to do by the factory, the car should be fine. If you track the car and push it to it's limits, then it's a whole different ball game, and you may want to tune because you are looking at optimal power, not just a fun ride.... You can still tune it if you want regardless, but herein lies the risk. You tune it, something happens, Nissan can claim you tampered with the programming on the computer and hence your warranty is void.

Now it's up to each individual to make up his/her mind what they want to do. Upgrade hell? Here it is... Decision making time... :icon14:

I'd say your service manager is correct. These cars are MAF based, which reads air flow and adds fueling to what it sees from those readings. I doubt mild bolt ons like a CBE and CAI will flow enough air over stock to get the MAF out of the range of adjustment it can command from the PCM.

Has anyone actually ran AFR numbers on a car before and after to see how much the AFR changed with a CBE, CAI, or combination of the two? Surely someone has. On my Challenger, exhaust and intake didn't change the AFR at all, and it's MAP based and has no way to adjust for anything on it's own like a MAF car will.

I'd wager maybe even test pipes wouldn't need a tune either. Maybe adding LT headers would finally get to a point it'd be necessary....I'd need to see some data from the other bolt ons to speak to that.

My 4Runner is MAF based, and it adjusted just fine with no tune when I slapped a supercharger on it AFR wise at 7psi of boost. However, I did have to add a piggy back controller to manipulate timing, then I upped the boost to 10psi and then had to tune it, which I did myself.

ZMan8 04-05-2012 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by The Dimer (Post 1642260)
I'll be sure to speak with him about it when I order my headers. I just need to get to one of these Chicago meets so I can here them in person. I seriously think with everyone there you could almost hear all the different combinations.

Yes Dimer, make sure you make our cars and coffee that is the premeet for ChicagoZ on the 22nd at 10 am (not just the ChicagoZ meet) and you will hear many different setups.

-we already have one person who has long tube headers+ non res. CBE
-I am installing this weekend 18" res CBE
-Another guy has on order 12" res CBE + I think HFC or RTPs
-Another one is ordering an FI exhaust (don't Know which one)
-there is guy with a nismo that has HFC or RTP + either 12 or 18 CBE (sorry dont remember)
-another guy has just 18" res. cbe

:tup:

ZMan8 04-05-2012 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Speedy (Post 1642377)
I'd say your service manager is correct. These cars are MAF based, which reads air flow and adds fueling to what it sees from those readings. I doubt mild bolt ons like a CBE and CAI will flow enough air over stock to get the MAF out of the range of adjustment it can command from the PCM.

Has anyone actually ran AFR numbers on a car before and after to see how much the AFR changed with a CBE, CAI, or combination of the two? Surely someone has. On my Challenger, exhaust and intake didn't change the AFR at all, and it's MAP based and has no way to adjust for anything on it's own like a MAF car will.

I'd wager maybe even test pipes wouldn't need a tune either. Maybe adding LT headers would finally get to a point it'd be necessary....I'd need to see some data from the other bolt ons to speak to that.

My 4Runner is MAF based, and it adjusted just fine with no tune when I slapped a supercharger on it AFR wise at 7psi of boost. However, I did have to add a piggy back controller to manipulate timing, then I upped the boost to 10psi and then had to tune it, which I did myself.

The only time you will have issues with our car is when you add intakes that fool (different diameter piping) the MAF sensors

NFSZ86 04-05-2012 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by ZMan8 (Post 1642383)
Yes Dimer, make sure you make our cars and coffee that is the premeet for ChicagoZ on the 22nd at 10 am (not just the ChicagoZ meet) and you will hear many different setups.

-we already have one person who has long tube headers+ non res. CBE
-I am installing this weekend 18" res CBE
-Another guy has on order 12" res CBE + I think HFC or RTPs
-Another one is ordering an FI exhaust (don't Know which one)
-there is guy with a nismo that has HFC or RTP + either 12 or 18 CBE (sorry dont remember)
-another guy has just 18" res. cbe

:tup:

Indeed plus it will be a SUPER GREAT ROLL IN ALL Z34 =))

ZMan8 04-05-2012 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by NFSZ86 (Post 1642541)
Indeed plus it will be a SUPER GREAT ROLL IN ALL Z34 =))

:driving: :happydance: and we are a rolling rep for Tony and Fast Intentions

The Dimer 04-05-2012 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by ZMan8 (Post 1642553)
:driving: :happydance: and we are a rolling rep for Tony and Fast Intentions

Hopefully I get some stickers! :tup:

mrcoolguyface 04-05-2012 07:02 PM

How do we get stickers? There were none with my shipment...

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The Dimer 04-05-2012 07:13 PM

I don't know. I thought I remembered seeing something about Fast Intentions stickers, be I don't even want to guess where that was in this thread.

Huan'z 04-05-2012 07:16 PM

Actually everyone waiting for Tony's f.i sticker. Lol


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Huan Huynh.

The Dimer 04-05-2012 07:22 PM

Got it! They exist, so at least I'm not crazy. Not sure how you get them, though.

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Originally Posted by F.I. Inc. (Post 1519635)
Nope, it is not the intakes or stickers. The stickers are already here and the intakes are currently on the back burner due to the 3" TDX and TT Kit!

Tony


mtaxelson 04-05-2012 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by my37z (Post 1642892)
Actually everyone waiting for Tony's f.i sticker. Lol


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Huan Huynh.

hahah i even PMed him about stickers...i feel real bad because its such a low priority.......BUT I STILL WANT THEM!!! lol

ZMan8 04-05-2012 08:13 PM

Yeah i didn't get any either with my shipment. I'm sure when he has a moment he'll send those out. I'll gladly rep him!

conor1123 04-07-2012 12:53 AM

#478 Shipped! Thanks Tony! :)

PaulZ370 04-08-2012 02:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rusty (Post 1639306)
Got my LTH, 12" res. and CBE installed. :) It was pretty much straight forward to do. The left side stock header heat shield is a PITA to remove. :mad: The only problem I have is my steering wheel is pointed to the left and my TC light is on. I talked to Tony about this. The thing with my Z is the the steering shaft is indexed for only one position. I can't move one tooth to line things back up. I've been fighting with this for a week now.

I misaligned my steering also as I had to disconnect the linkage to get to the Demon Bolt. A trip to Nissan the next day and it was fixed very easily. There is a blue plastic ring at the bottom of the linkage with a blue "nubbie" that points out. On the linkage itself, the split in the clamp (where the bolt is ) has to line up with the blue nubbie on the plastic ring. This prety much lines up your steering wheel. I know it's hard to visualize this without pictures, but if you have been struggling with it for a week or more then you know what I am talking about. If still in doubt, take it to Nissan, but DO NOT LET THEM RE-ALIGN THE CAR IN ORDER TO SET YOUR STEERING STRAIGHT! The linkage has to be reset, otherwise the cable to the Air Bag that wraps around the steering can be damaged as it can be overstretched when at max turn, and your air bag may not deploy. If you get a tech worth his salt, then he'll know what I am talking about. I spent about an hour and a half chatting with the tech, the actual work took 15 minutes and that includes putting her up on the rack, resetting the linkage properly, taking her off the rack, driving in the parking lot to test the steering, then back on the rack to tighten things up.

We both made the same mistake: we took the wrong bolt out when disconnecting the linkage. The larger bolt higher up on the linkage is where we should have disconnected it. There is a key way there that will Not Allow you to misalign things...

Hope this helps! :tiphat:

PaulZ370 04-08-2012 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by PaulZ370 (Post 1640101)
Ok guys, I uploaded my pics showing how the system was received in its packaging to final installation. The Demon Bolt on the driver's side lived up to its name. No Cheater Bar or Impact Wrench could budge it more than a couple of threads and then it just seized up solid on us. Two hours later after we pretty much stripped out the head trying conventional methods, I had to run out to a nearby auto parts place and purchase a $30 Bolt Extractor set. The bolt gave up after that and the installation proceeded without a hitch... :happydance: :driving: :tup:

Nissan 370Z Forum - PaulZ370's Album: Fast Intentions HFC/CBE System

The system has finally settled in tone and the computer seems to have adjusted itself to the increased air flow. The exhaust tone now has become pretty consistent - low rumble at idle and a nice growl at acceleration. No drone, no audible hiss, no rattles, and perfect looks. The car seems to be much more responsive to throttle, as well as very "relaxed" on shifting gears - not sure how to describe this except that I think the engine's response to gear changes is not as "jerky"..? does this make sense...?... and of course, there is a whole lot more power available now after driving it for approx 250 miles since I installed the system.

I think I'm there with my setup... and I LOVE IT! :tup:

roplusbee 04-08-2012 04:58 PM

Any update on the 3" version?


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