[Official] "Do I need a tune with bolt-ons?" thread

Germanguy · 11-22-2012, 07:24 AM

Thanks, but I dont want to flash the ECU because I dont want to void my warranty.

Will I run too lean?

K&N filters
exotic speed 300 cell hfc
Muffler with manual valve system

Thanks!

SS_Firehawk · 11-22-2012, 09:11 AM

If you don't want to get a tune but still run HFC's, I would suggest AEM's CAI with ETI. It helps the intakes compensate for their diameter difference. The ECU will makes it's own adjustments on top of that. My AFR's were averaging 13-13.2:1 with LTH's, full CBE and HFC.

Germanguy · 11-22-2012, 10:17 AM

I dont want to upgrade the intakes too : ).

Will I run lean?

How did you measure your AFR?

Germanguy · 12-01-2012, 02:58 PM

Could I measure with Torque app the AFR, that I might be too lean?

Look at the video:

Galaxy S2 Torque App mit Track Recorder (Teestfahrt 1) - YouTube

SS_Firehawk · 11-22-2012, 10:29 AM

If you just stick to Post maf tubes and drop in's, I think you might be okay. 300 cell cats will keep things closer to stock as well. You can get AFR measured when you dyno it, or via software.

jcasti07 · 12-24-2012, 12:07 PM

Lets say I installed a CAI and HFC's, about how much does a tune run you?

seymore4 · 12-24-2012, 04:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jcasti07

Lets say I installed a CAI and HFC's, about how much does a tune run you?

depends how you do it. If you go to a shop and get dyno'd it usually runs around $600, or you can do it yourself with datalogging and etunes for as low as $450, plus you get the uprev cable

CC QUIK · 12-25-2012, 10:08 PM

To SS Firehawk,
Who do you recommend for a tune in Vegas?

Huck · 02-25-2013, 05:49 PM

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kfull · 04-24-2013, 11:54 AM

FI CBE ordered. I'm guessing with this as my only mod I won't need a tune. I don't track it and don't drive it super hard as it is my dd. just some spirited driving here and there.

Huck · 04-24-2013, 04:00 PM

Lol nope, bolt and go!

Unless you're forced induction, you don't NEED a tune. Your car can run fine without it with full bolt ons. The ecu learns quite well.

However you can BENEFIT from a tune with full bolt ons. But just a cbe? Nah, bolt and go lol.

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dc3843 · 04-24-2013, 07:59 PM

So, I just bought my 2012 370z, and I'm already buying stuff to mod it somewhat. Now, I put an intake on my boss mustang and needed a damn tune for the thing to run right. Do I need that if I put an exhaust on my Z and add an intake later?

DEpointfive0 · 04-24-2013, 08:00 PM

You never NEED a tune, I don't have a tune and my car works fine

Trips · 04-24-2013, 08:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dc3843

So, I just bought my 2012 370z, and I'm already buying stuff to mod it somewhat. Now, I put an intake on my boss mustang and needed a damn tune for the thing to run right. Do I need that if I put an exhaust on my Z and add an intake later?

Only IF you want the optimal performance out of the mods you added.

gbrettin · 04-24-2013, 08:10 PM

I have a Fast Intentions cat back exhaust system on my car w/o a tune. It's been running this way for the last 3 years just fine.

So you don't NEED to. ... but I'd imagine you would want to once you do CAI and exhaust.

11-22-2012, 09:11 AM	#2 (permalink)
SS_Firehawk Premium Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Tampa Posts: 4,142 Drives: 13' Magma Red Nismo Rep Power: 7335	If you don't want to get a tune but still run HFC's, I would suggest AEM's CAI with ETI. It helps the intakes compensate for their diameter difference. The ECU will makes it's own adjustments on top of that. My AFR's were averaging 13-13.2:1 with LTH's, full CBE and HFC. __________________ Old Car:GTM TSC'd 550whp / 410lbft tq @ 11.88PSI New Car: Under Construction

11-22-2012, 10:29 AM	#5 (permalink)
SS_Firehawk Premium Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Tampa Posts: 4,142 Drives: 13' Magma Red Nismo Rep Power: 7335	If you just stick to Post maf tubes and drop in's, I think you might be okay. 300 cell cats will keep things closer to stock as well. You can get AFR measured when you dyno it, or via software. __________________ Old Car:GTM TSC'd 550whp / 410lbft tq @ 11.88PSI New Car: Under Construction

02-25-2013, 05:49 PM	#9 (permalink)
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04-24-2013, 04:00 PM	#11 (permalink)
Huck A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Cocoa, Florida Age: 42 Posts: 5,075 Drives: Pantydropper machine Rep Power: 34	Lol nope, bolt and go! Unless you're forced induction, you don't NEED a tune. Your car can run fine without it with full bolt ons. The ecu learns quite well. However you can BENEFIT from a tune with full bolt ons. But just a cbe? Nah, bolt and go lol. Sent from my iPizzle using magic and new-fangled science stuff SterlingDrive likes this. __________________ VLEDS \| Evo-R \| Moddiction \| CF Hood Struts \| F.I. CF CBE & LTH \| Stillen CAI \| NST Pulleys \| UpRev \| Z1 \| M7 \| Status \| Forgestar \| PSS \| Whiteline \| SPL \| SPC \| Kenwood \| Zenclosure \| Kicker \| Alpine Type R

04-24-2013, 07:59 PM	#12 (permalink)
dc3843 Base Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Southlake, tx Posts: 116 Drives: 2012 silver 6spd nav Rep Power: 12	Tune required? So, I just bought my 2012 370z, and I'm already buying stuff to mod it somewhat. Now, I put an intake on my boss mustang and needed a damn tune for the thing to run right. Do I need that if I put an exhaust on my Z and add an intake later?

11-22-2012, 07:24 AM	#1 (permalink)
Germanguy Base Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Germany Posts: 67 Drives: 07 350z Rep Power: 15	Thanks, but I dont want to flash the ECU because I dont want to void my warranty. Will I run too lean? K&N filters exotic speed 300 cell hfc Muffler with manual valve system Thanks!

11-22-2012, 10:17 AM	#3 (permalink)
Germanguy Base Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Germany Posts: 67 Drives: 07 350z Rep Power: 15	I dont want to upgrade the intakes too : ). Will I run lean? How did you measure your AFR?

12-01-2012, 02:58 PM	#4 (permalink)
Germanguy Base Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Germany Posts: 67 Drives: 07 350z Rep Power: 15	Could I measure with Torque app the AFR, that I might be too lean? Look at the video: Galaxy S2 Torque App mit Track Recorder (Teestfahrt 1) - YouTube

12-24-2012, 12:07 PM	#6 (permalink)
jcasti07 Base Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: El Paso Posts: 171 Drives: red '15 Mustang GT Rep Power: 14	Lets say I installed a CAI and HFC's, about how much does a tune run you?

12-25-2012, 10:08 PM	#8 (permalink)
CC QUIK Base Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Vegas Posts: 83 Drives: 2012 370Z Rep Power: 13	To SS Firehawk, Who do you recommend for a tune in Vegas?

04-24-2013, 11:54 AM	#10 (permalink)
kfull Track Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 909 Drives: A lot Rep Power: 15	FI CBE ordered. I'm guessing with this as my only mod I won't need a tune. I don't track it and don't drive it super hard as it is my dd. just some spirited driving here and there.

04-24-2013, 08:00 PM	#13 (permalink)
DEpointfive0 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: SoCal Posts: 14,824 Drives: a lot Rep Power: 17152	You never NEED a tune, I don't have a tune and my car works fine Zoren 370 likes this. __________________ Do YOU want to know what/where I got my username from? ( Click to show/hide ) NSFW due to language:

04-24-2013, 08:10 PM	#15 (permalink)
gbrettin A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Portage, MI Posts: 2,289 Drives: Tricycle Rep Power: 589151	I have a Fast Intentions cat back exhaust system on my car w/o a tune. It's been running this way for the last 3 years just fine. So you don't NEED to. ... but I'd imagine you would want to once you do CAI and exhaust.

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