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MacLean 05-30-2012 06:11 PM

FYI.......... My car is no longer a virgin any more. I passed the break in period of 1,200 miles. I will still baby her & treat her like a lady during the day, but at night she might run wild.

Mr&Mrs 05-31-2012 07:01 AM

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Originally Posted by MacLean (Post 1744686)
Mr&Mrs I forgot to ask you when I ordered my Meisterschaft exhaust form GTHAUS I spoke to a rep named Mickey & he said that there is a huge presents of the Meisterschaft exhaust down in Florida, or Southern Florida. Have you notice a huge presents of the Meisterschaft exhaust in your area?

I felt like a stalker trying to find your build-up & hear your exhaust. I like what I heard. You have done a lot of work to your Z & it looks effen clean looking. I also love the ladies next to your ride.

In my area (Central Florida/Tampa) I have not heard or saw another 370z with this exhaust, but a lot of BWMs have it. Thanks for the compliments.

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Originally Posted by IsaacSG31 (Post 1745102)
How can I see the vids of your build sir? I'm sorry for being retarded.

edit: nevermind

I see you found it but for those of you who may also be wondering my build thread can be found easily by clicking the link in my signature.

The videos are in the first post. The best capture of the sound is at the end of the second video, a lot of people dont make it to the end because I was doing some windows down clips for a request on youtube and my stupid camera recorded mostly the sound of wind.

IsaacSG31 05-31-2012 10:07 AM

Yeah Mr&Mrs your build is crazy. It looks great though. Took a lot of time and money by the looks of it. In your opinion does this exhaust have too much/or any at all in terms of rasp? I just wanted to get another opinion from someone that has it. As we know, videos rarely do it justice.

Thanks

edub370 05-31-2012 11:19 AM

Ok so can someone tell me if this system or the new md shockwave is louder at WOT. also im running tp's, so would either of these two cat backs with tp's be ear peircing??

IsaacSG31 05-31-2012 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by edub370 (Post 1746647)
Ok so can someone tell me if this system or the new md shockwave is louder at WOT. also im running tp's, so would either of these two cat backs with tp's be ear peircing??

This is nearly the exact situation I'm in. Deciding between these two. I had shock wave on my 350 and loved it, but meisterschaft is meisterschaft.

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edub370 05-31-2012 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by IsaacSG31 (Post 1746726)
This is nearly the exact situation I'm in. Deciding between these two. I had shock wave on my 350 and loved it, but meisterschaft is meisterschaft.

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me having tp's is making me nervous more than anything

i had a tp aam short tail combo on my car for about 15 min... and well, lets just say that was 15 min too long

MacLean 05-31-2012 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by edub370 (Post 1746647)
Ok so can someone tell me if this system or the new md shockwave is louder at WOT. also im running tp's, so would either of these two cat backs with tp's be ear peircing??


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Originally Posted by IsaacSG31 (Post 1746726)
This is nearly the exact situation I'm in. Deciding between these two. I had shock wave on my 350 and loved it, but meisterschaft is meisterschaft.

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To me the MotorDyne Shockwave & Meisterschaft kind of almost go hand in hand in sound wise a bit. I'm not sure what the MotorDyne Shockwave FCBE would cost compared to the Meisterschaft. The only thing I would think would be ear piercing is to redline in every gear at every stop light & stop sign. Now that would drive you effen nuts. If you shift b/w 3-4k rpms you will be perfectly fine & w/o a headache.

The MotorDyne Shockwave V2 TDX exhaust sounds clean, but I believe the MotorDyne are a lot more common with the Z & G than the Meisterschaft. IMHO I would have to lean toward Meisterschaft b/c not everybody has it & the sound is sweet a** sweet. As stated up-above Meisterschaft is Meisterschaft & GTHAUS makes some kick a** high quality products.

What helped me decide on my exhaust was also hearing the GTR with the Meisterschaft exhaust. Supposedly the Z is a little bit louder if you have the FCBE. I believe Meisterschaft biggest competitor would be Kreissieg F-1 System, but the Kreissieg F-1 System are way over priced for what you are getting.

FYI....... Mr&Mrs you ride & set-up is sweet looking & sounding big guy.

edub370 05-31-2012 01:34 PM

Do they even make the Kreissieg F-1 System for the 370z?

MacLean 05-31-2012 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by edub370 (Post 1746889)
Do they even make the Kreissieg F-1 System for the 370z?

No..... The only Nissan is the GTR unfortunately. The sad part about Kreissieg F-1 System for the GTR is that it will be a good 3k maybe 4k more than the Meisterchaft exhaust. As stated earlier the Kreissieg F-1 System is nice & sounds bad a**, but it is way over priced. The Kreissieg F-1 System is usual double the price of the Meisterschaft set-up & Kreissieg is very proud of their stuff.

MaDMaXX 05-31-2012 07:01 PM

Based in rasp alone, i would say the Meisterchaft would *sound* louder than the MD, once you get up there, it will be harsher to the ear in comparison.

MacLean 05-31-2012 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by MaDMaXX (Post 1747456)
Based in rasp alone, i would say the Meisterchaft would *sound* louder than the MD, once you get up there, it will be harsher to the ear in comparison.

Really you will be shifting at 3k maybe 4k rpms. I seriously doubt one would want to redline every gear at every stop sign & stop light. You do have to agree that it is a very unique sounding note.

gomer_110 05-31-2012 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by MacLean (Post 1747572)
Really you will be shifting at 3k maybe 4k rpms. I seriously doubt one would want to redline every gear at every stop sign & stop light. You do have to agree that it is a very unique sounding note.

Going up through the gears that might be the case but downshifting and SRM = loud. I can be quiet (relatively speaking) going up through the gears but downshifting with SRM on forget it.

+1 on being a baller with the Meisterchaft exhaust.

MaDMaXX 05-31-2012 08:58 PM

I meant it has a generally harsher note, we're talking relatively here :)

That and it certainly does rasp unfortunately, however, it's one of the better rasps i've heard.

I'd chose the MD purely based on the smoother note, but i do like this one too. The MD is still not so common as it's one of the higher priced systems, and i'd like to think i'm supporting home grown talent and engineering by buying American.

MacLean 05-31-2012 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by gomer_110 (Post 1747578)
Going up through the gears that might be the case but downshifting and SRM = loud. I can be quiet (relatively speaking) going up through the gears but downshifting with SRM on forget it.

+1 on being a baller with the Meisterchaft exhaust.

Thnxs big guy...... You just made me blush... I mean smile....hehehehe. Oh I will say this about the SRM & downshifting that it is pretty sweet. When downshifting & depending on the rpms you can get a very nice sound (assuming nothing crazy like 4K & under) & hear a good pop noise from the exhaust.

I realize our Z's are pretty clean looking, but I had this weird a** guy in a Benz C63 AMG this morning that turned into my direction. The next thing I hear is a couple revs & this AMG passes me & he revs a couple more times. So what is up with that exactly? I'm thinking maybe his way of giving me props for my ride, or kind of wanted to race. I'm not stupid by any means & I know the AMG would spank the sh*t out of me, but I would definitely give the AMG a run for its money on the track.

MacLean 05-31-2012 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by MaDMaXX (Post 1747590)
I meant it has a generally harsher note, we're talking relatively here :)

That and it certainly does rasp unfortunately, however, it's one of the better rasps i've heard.

I'd chose the MD purely based on the smoother note, but i do like this one too. The MD is still not so common as it's one of the higher priced systems, and i'd like to think i'm supporting home grown talent and engineering by buying American.

:tup: :iagree:

gomer_110 05-31-2012 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by MacLean (Post 1747591)
Thnxs big guy...... You just made me blush... I mean smile....hehehehe. Oh I will say this about the SRM & downshifting that it is pretty sweet. When downshifting & depending on the rpms you can get a very nice sound (assuming nothing crazy like 4K & under) & hear a good pop noise from the exhaust.

I realize our Z's are pretty clean looking, but I had this weird a** guy in a Benz C63 AMG this morning that turned into my direction. The next thing I hear is a couple revs & this AMG passes me & he revs a couple more times. So what is up with that exactly? I'm thinking maybe his way of giving me props for my ride, or kind of wanted to race. I'm not stupid by any means & I know the AMG would spank the sh*t out of me, but I would definitely give the AMG a run for its money on the track.

I think people in general overreact to this and immediately assume they person is trying to race. I think half the time they're just trying to get you to jump on the throttle for a second to be able to hear the exhaust.

MacLean 05-31-2012 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by gomer_110 (Post 1747597)
I think people in general overreact to this and immediately assume they person is trying to race. I think half the time they're just trying to get you to jump on the throttle for a second to be able to hear the exhaust.

At first I was like this guy cannot be this dumb to want to race, but then I thought maybe giving me some props. I see where you coming from now & agree about possibly wanting to hear the exhaust. Thnxs. :tiphat:

pauliewalnutz 06-01-2012 07:39 AM

You should be a sales person for Meis. 98% of Z drivers would have it on their car lmao. I have some videos of the full system with BERK HFC's on my G37 if anyone wants to hear it. I was thinking of swapping the cats out for OEM OR swapping the mid pipe out for the OEM also. I need to quiet it down a bit. Still contemplating though. Its very loud and free flowing with everything I have. Theres rasp between like 3200 and 3700 then it goes away and comes back at 5000+RPM when it sounds like a F1 car. Ive made people **** in their pants when I down shifted lol. Lets not even talk about cold starts, you could probably hear me from 5-8 blocks away in the morning.

Mr&Mrs 06-01-2012 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by IsaacSG31 (Post 1746482)
Yeah Mr&Mrs your build is crazy. It looks great though. Took a lot of time and money by the looks of it. In your opinion does this exhaust have too much/or any at all in terms of rasp? I just wanted to get another opinion from someone that has it. As we know, videos rarely do it justice.

Thanks

As I mentioned in an earlier post it does have a little RASP at certain RPMS, I notice mine from about 3500 to 4000 only at mid throttle though, low throttle or floored you don't hear it at all it, is hard to explain. I also think mine may be a little more noticeable due to my HFC's which I plan on replacing with ART Pipes.

As far as the videos they do not do any justice, and the clips of the car driving down the street with the walls on both sides make it sound a little bad due to the echo effect. That is why I tell people to watch the end of the second video for the best effect on what it sounds like for people you drive by.

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Originally Posted by MacLean (Post 1746803)

FYI....... Mr&Mrs you ride & set-up is sweet looking & sounding big guy.

:tiphat:

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Originally Posted by gomer_110 (Post 1747597)
I think people in general overreact to this and immediately assume they person is trying to race. I think half the time they're just trying to get you to jump on the throttle for a second to be able to hear the exhaust.

I agree I get more people popping their throttle at me when I am in my SRT-4 because they want to hear that big turbo and blow off valve, not so much wanting to race.

MacLean 06-01-2012 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by pauliewalnutz (Post 1748104)
You should be a sales person for Meis. 98% of Z drivers would have it on their car lmao. I have some videos of the full system with BERK HFC's on my G37 if anyone wants to hear it. I was thinking of swapping the cats out for OEM OR swapping the mid pipe out for the OEM also. I need to quiet it down a bit. Still contemplating though. Its very loud and free flowing with everything I have. Theres rasp between like 3200 and 3700 then it goes away and comes back at 5000+RPM when it sounds like a F1 car. Ive made people **** in their pants when I down shifted lol. Lets not even talk about cold starts, you could probably hear me from 5-8 blocks away in the morning.

:icon18: I should get a discount, or have the exhaust for free. Please do share the videos with us. I enjoy hearing the clean & sexy exhaust sounds from kick a** cars.

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Originally Posted by Mr&Mrs (Post 1748327)
I agree I get more people popping their throttle at me when I am in my SRT-4 because they want to hear that big turbo and blow off valve, not so much wanting to race.

I need to make a mental note of this going forward.

pauliewalnutz 06-01-2012 02:02 PM

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MacLean 06-01-2012 02:11 PM

Your exhaust sounds pretty clean & loud too. I liked the sound of it. You can always get a Prius if you want quieter jk.

pauliewalnutz 06-01-2012 02:50 PM

Lmfao...Thanks man

MaDMaXX 06-01-2012 07:22 PM

Is that a resonance point i keep hearing that buzzes the camera? And auto, right? :(

Startup sounded nice.

IsaacSG31 06-01-2012 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by MaDMaXX (Post 1749743)
Is that a resonance point i keep hearing that buzzes the camera? And auto, right? :(

Startup sounded nice.

Yeah if that wasn't a resonance point... that was too much rasp for me. Haha

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MacLean 06-01-2012 08:15 PM

I just heard it for the second time & was going in for the third, but it was removed. I liked the cold start & it reminded of my Meisterschaft cold start & I found nothing wrong with the sound. There is no such thing as the perfect exhaust system sound. People are just going to b**ch & complain about the exhaust. They will always say it is too loud, too raspy, or it is too something. Half the time the people are just jealous of the sexy sound, or just flat out cannot afford an unique exhaust sound. Go buy a generic exhaust & call it a day, or just get a Prius. If one put his/her foot on the accelerator the exhaust note will get louder & if he/she is just cruising, then the exhaust note will not be loud (would be flat). You have to remember that you have to pay to play. The more unique & distinctive you want your exhaust to be, then the more one will usually have to pay.

pauliewalnutz 06-02-2012 11:39 AM

^^^^Agreed 110%....I wish I could get rid of that damn buzzing noise. Where could it be coming from??

MacLean 06-02-2012 11:54 AM

I couldn't hear a buzzing noise & was trying to see what the issue was. Did you take down the video?

pauliewalnutz 06-02-2012 01:33 PM

Yeah I took it down. Im going to swap out the non resonated mid pipe for a resonated one and see if it gets rid of the buzzing noise around 3000-4000 rpm. If it does, that'll be my new set-up. If I doesnt, Im going to swap the cats out for the OEM ones and change the mid pipe back to the non resonated one and see what happens lol

MaDMaXX 06-02-2012 01:48 PM

It was when the camera vibrated all over the place, sounded like about 3k rpm.

*edit, sorry, just saw the reply.

pauliewalnutz 06-02-2012 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by MaDMaXX (Post 1750661)
It was when the camera vibrated all over the place, sounded like about 3k rpm.

*edit, sorry, just saw the reply.

No way it could of vibrated. The camera was placed on my seat and all it did was just fall over a bit.

MaDMaXX 06-02-2012 02:45 PM

Sorry, that's what i was seeing, and seats don't stop vibration ;)

Of course, i could just be being sensitive to hearing the vibration?

MacLean 06-02-2012 02:50 PM

Uhhhhh........... The camera was in the passenger seat & was not held in place by anything. So when one is driving the camera will move on its own.

pauliewalnutz 06-02-2012 02:54 PM

Ok :bowrofl:

MaDMaXX 06-02-2012 03:12 PM

Alright, lemme see the video again!! :)

Everytime it got to about 3k rpm, something vibrated, at the very least i heard it, if not saw as well.

MacLean 06-02-2012 03:16 PM

How would you know what the rmps were if it was never shown? It could have been 2.8k or 4.2k rpms.

IsaacSG31 06-02-2012 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by MacLean (Post 1749788)
I just heard it for the second time & was going in for the third, but it was removed. I liked the cold start & it reminded of my Meisterschaft cold start & I found nothing wrong with the sound. There is no such thing as the perfect exhaust system sound. People are just going to b**ch & complain about the exhaust. They will always say it is too loud, too raspy, or it is too something. Half the time the people are just jealous of the sexy sound, or just flat out cannot afford an unique exhaust sound. Go buy a generic exhaust & call it a day, or just get a Prius. If one put his/her foot on the accelerator the exhaust note will get louder & if he/she is just cruising, then the exhaust note will not be loud (would be flat). You have to remember that you have to pay to play. The more unique & distinctive you want your exhaust to be, then the more one will usually have to pay.

This seems kinda hostile dude. No offense intended. I'm just picky with my exhaust note. And implying people being picky about the exhaust does not indicate being jealous due to cost issues. Most people here buying brand new 370s, while not overly expensive, have no issues dropping a few thousand on a great sound. That's why all the research is done and the desire to see multiple videos is abundant. We want to know were getting exactly what we want. Personal preference does not indicate a bad or good exhaust nor does it mean jealousy or a desire to own a Prius. I just want what I consider is the best.

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MaDMaXX 06-02-2012 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by MacLean (Post 1750805)
How would you know what the rmps were if it was never shown? It could have been 2.8k or 4.2k rpms.

Just what it sounded like, didn't know for sure, but it was the same point each time the car accelerated :)

MacLean 06-03-2012 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by IsaacSG31 (Post 1750812)
This seems kinda hostile dude. No offense intended. I'm just picky with my exhaust note. And implying people being picky about the exhaust does not indicate being jealous due to cost issues. Most people here buying brand new 370s, while not overly expensive, have no issues dropping a few thousand on a great sound. That's why all the research is done and the desire to see multiple videos is abundant. We want to know were getting exactly what we want. Personal preference does not indicate a bad or good exhaust nor does it mean jealousy or a desire to own a Prius. I just want what I consider is the best.

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Not being hostile & not offended one bit. We are all a little bit picky when it comes to our exhaust. At some point you will have to make an executive decision. Personally I think you should just go with a F. I. exhaust & call it a day. I'm not saying you in general, but people do try to find something wrong or something to complain about regarding the exhaust note. Yes hearing, seeing & requesting lots of exhaust videos (or watching YouTube videos) is one thing, but seeing & hearing is totally a different story. Try to find people in your area to actually hear the exhaust is your very best bet.

Some people might not have an issue with dropping a couple to several grand on an exhaust, but most will not see to it b/c of budget issues. Theses budget issue could be b/c they also want to redo their stereo, rims, body kit, other mods & etc. This is why sometimes you see threads regarding getting a good used exhaust, or getting the best sound for the cheapest price. If money was never an issue, then we would all have the very best of the best on our car or in our car.

Gauge 06-04-2012 09:42 AM

Some of these vids match very closely to how this exhaust sounds in person.

Also, to confirm, if you shift in the 2.5-3k rpm range, you won't go over your counties sound laws. I have an 80 decibel law and have never been pulled over. In fact many people where I live compliment my car and its sound because I do the fun stuff away from where I live so they don't get angry.

I do question whether it's worth the money. Even used I could get a F.I. cheaper. The money in this exhaust is more int he build quality than any kind of gains or sound. The latter is of course nice, but you have 3 welds per curve on this exhaust. This thing would probably survive a nuclear blast lol. The build quality is probably not necessary, but it shows they care about their product.

I still havn't got mine tuned yet (still plan on it) because I've been busy, but it wouldn't suprise me if there were gains in the 10 bhp+ range. I can't confirm that of course until I get a tune.

Everyone has to make their own decision. If you just want the sound, I"m sure someone could make an exahaust that sounds similar for much cheaper, but no one does yet, so you are left with GT HAUS.

I'll keep you all posted on the main GT HAUS thread of when I go to get a tune.

IMO F.I. will probably give more gain. It also looks better from the rear looking at it. However, GT HAUS has a better build quality, sounds better, and requires no modification to install(which goes back to build quality). ZInferno had to do some cutting to get his installed in the right rear.


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