+ 370z Muffler Delete +

batman_4 · 04-16-2010, 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by semtex

Yeah, paying for parts that are actually engineered and tested by professionals is rice. Hey, why even buy a car? I mean, let's be consistent here. Following your line of reasoning, you should have the ingenuity to come up with, and build, your own car. I mean, buying a pre-made car that someone else designed? Dude that's so rice!

jtown82 · 04-16-2010, 11:40 AM

I see that semtex you like most Ricers blow things out of proportion also. are you one of those that when you lose to someone you make up thousands of excuses? i mean really why bring up designing a car. use some common sense at-least i know its hard for someone like you to accept the fact that you dont have to pay thousands of dollars to make some more power. your still the epitomy of Ricer. someone who has a bad attitude and is pessimistic towards others because you refuse to accept others opinions and only accept your own. and your posts have proven that.

NewlyIMPORTed · 04-16-2010, 11:42 AM

WShade · 04-16-2010, 11:51 AM

Can you guys stop now and get back on topic?

semtex · 04-16-2010, 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by jtown82

someone who has a bad attitude and is pessimistic towards others because you refuse to accept others opinions and only accept your own. and your posts have proven that.

Reading comprehension really isn't your strong point, is it?

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Originally Posted by semtex

No, I'd call you a poser. But it's the same basic concept as a ricer. This mod is all show, no go, that's what's wrong with it. It's about making your car sound more powerful without actually being more powerful. I could be wrong, but nobody has done a before/after dyno to test for gains. But that's no surprise, because posers don't care about real gains, right? So why would a poser go through the trouble of doing dyno testing? Anyway, like I said, I'm just expressing my personal opinion. We can agree to disagree.

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Originally Posted by semtex

Yeah, could be. Different strokes for different folks, I guess. I have to confess that I often forget how important aesthetics are to some people, and sound is indeed an important aesthetic element.

Yeah, I can't accept anyone else's opinion. You got me on that one.

semtex · 04-16-2010, 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by WShade

Can you guys stop now and get back on topic?

Aw..where's the fun in that?

theDreamer · 04-16-2010, 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by jtown82

I see that semtex you like most Ricers blow things out of proportion also. are you one of those that when you lose to someone you make up thousands of excuses? i mean really why bring up designing a car. use some common sense at-least i know its hard for someone like you to accept the fact that you dont have to pay thousands of dollars to make some more power. your still the epitomy of Ricer. someone who has a bad attitude and is pessimistic towards others because you refuse to accept others opinions and only accept your own. and your posts have proven that.

Wow, did someone piss in your Cheerios this morning, geez.

FuszNissan · 04-16-2010, 12:05 PM

What are we talking about anyway?

batman_4 · 04-16-2010, 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by jtown82

it usually is ricer mentality to pay for things because they dont have the ingenuity to come up with modifications themselves so its understandable.

theDreamer · 04-16-2010, 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by jtown82

it usually is ricer mentality to pay for things because they dont have the ingenuity to come up with modifications themselves so its understandable.

Actually it is the ricer mentality to pay as little as possible to nothing to create a modification, the use of payment is meant to get a better, higher quality, more engineered designed product.

semtex · 04-16-2010, 12:08 PM

Okay, in all seriousness, and in an attempt to restore some civility to this discussion . . . I never stated that you can't make power unless you pay thousands of dollars or buy parts from a company or whatever. I just don't think this particular mod will yield gains is all. As I've already stated previously in this thread, I could be wrong. But nobody has done a before/after dyno on this as far as I know, so we don't know either way at this point. If someone does a dyno and proves that there are gains to be made, I will gladly eat a big slice of humble pie and revise my opinion that this is rice. And again, even if it doesn't yield any gains, to each his/her own. I've already acknowledged that doing something for the sole purpose of improving an aesthetic element, like sound, is perfectly legit.

FuszNissan · 04-16-2010, 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by theDreamer

Actually it is the ricer mentality to pay as little as possible to nothing to create a modification, the use of payment is meant to get a better, higher quality, more engineered designed product.

ftwayne370z · 04-19-2010, 11:27 AM

Well first off, took my muffler off and I thought my car sounded great. I will probably have my buddy fab up some pipes and tips for me soon. I don't see spending the money on the exhaust until I'm ready to do the twin turbo kit I have planned. I do think this "mod" of removing your muffler is meant more to change the sound of your vehichle rather than to gain any substantial amount of hp or torque. However, and correct me if I'm wrong, any increase in air flow should yeild some sort of performance gain. I mean a cat back you buy from a manufacturer is suppose to give you a power gain. Well this is more or less a cat back exhaust with the stock piping. You are still increasing the airflow by deleting the muffler so, even if by a small amount, you should gain power as well, of coarse, drop weight. Just my two cents. Either way I think it sounds great!

Gunzero · 04-19-2010, 03:15 PM

Can anybody fab me up some pipes.. I live in the middle of freaking nowhere and I would love to have some pipes. I'm saving up money for college and this would be a nice way to change the soft note of the stock exhaust without spending much.

batman_4 · 04-19-2010, 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Gunzero

Can anybody fab me up some pipes.. I live in the middle of freaking nowhere and I would love to have some pipes. I'm saving up money for college and this would be a nice way to change the soft note of the stock exhaust without spending much.

where in texas are you?

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04-16-2010, 12:08 PM	#116 (permalink)
semtex A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Behind enemy lines Age: 54 Posts: 5,995 Drives: People to drink Rep Power: 32	Okay, in all seriousness, and in an attempt to restore some civility to this discussion . . . I never stated that you can't make power unless you pay thousands of dollars or buy parts from a company or whatever. I just don't think this particular mod will yield gains is all. As I've already stated previously in this thread, I could be wrong. But nobody has done a before/after dyno on this as far as I know, so we don't know either way at this point. If someone does a dyno and proves that there are gains to be made, I will gladly eat a big slice of humble pie and revise my opinion that this is rice. And again, even if it doesn't yield any gains, to each his/her own. I've already acknowledged that doing something for the sole purpose of improving an aesthetic element, like sound, is perfectly legit. __________________ "There are no small accidents on this circuit." -- Ayrton Senna 316.8whp & 248 ft/lbs (Dyno Dynamics) \| 319whp & 256 ft/lbs (DynoJet) (04/23/10) Stillen G3 CAI, CBE, Pulley / F.I. LTH / GTSpec Ladder Brace / Setrab Oil Cooler / UpRev-tuned by Forged Perf.

04-19-2010, 03:15 PM	#119 (permalink)
Gunzero Track Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Texas Posts: 889 Drives: Nissan 370z Rep Power: 259	Can anybody fab me up some pipes.. I live in the middle of freaking nowhere and I would love to have some pipes. I'm saving up money for college and this would be a nice way to change the soft note of the stock exhaust without spending much. __________________

04-16-2010, 11:40 AM	#107 (permalink)
jtown82 Base Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: southern Arkansas Posts: 158 Drives: 09 chicane yellow Z Rep Power: 15	I see that semtex you like most Ricers blow things out of proportion also. are you one of those that when you lose to someone you make up thousands of excuses? i mean really why bring up designing a car. use some common sense at-least i know its hard for someone like you to accept the fact that you dont have to pay thousands of dollars to make some more power. your still the epitomy of Ricer. someone who has a bad attitude and is pessimistic towards others because you refuse to accept others opinions and only accept your own. and your posts have proven that.

04-19-2010, 11:27 AM	#118 (permalink)
ftwayne370z Base Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Ft. Wayne, IN Posts: 20 Drives: 2009 Nissan 370Z Rep Power: 15	Well first off, took my muffler off and I thought my car sounded great. I will probably have my buddy fab up some pipes and tips for me soon. I don't see spending the money on the exhaust until I'm ready to do the twin turbo kit I have planned. I do think this "mod" of removing your muffler is meant more to change the sound of your vehichle rather than to gain any substantial amount of hp or torque. However, and correct me if I'm wrong, any increase in air flow should yeild some sort of performance gain. I mean a cat back you buy from a manufacturer is suppose to give you a power gain. Well this is more or less a cat back exhaust with the stock piping. You are still increasing the airflow by deleting the muffler so, even if by a small amount, you should gain power as well, of coarse, drop weight. Just my two cents. Either way I think it sounds great!

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