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-   -   NISMO R-TUNE Cold Air Intake (Long Tube) (http://www.the370z.com/intake-exhaust/51053-nismo-r-tune-cold-air-intake-long-tube.html)

Skeeterbop 03-10-2012 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by ImportConvert (Post 1591453)
I'm happy with my z1 smooth tubes and cosworth filters. 370z already pulls air from outside the engine bay.

+1 (K&N filter though)

Sh0velMan 03-10-2012 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Rooskey (Post 1591328)
This intake has already been a topic on this forum before. Most people bched about the foam filter half way up the intake tubes. Personally I dont car for long tube intake designs. The last half of the intake tubing going into the TB is going to get heat soaked anyways, and the "cold" air (or whatever ambient temp air; that is always changing from season to season) that is coming in does nothing but challenge your tune. I prefer to me on a more consistant basis.



Soooo. I can't say a whole lot right now, but...

The "foam filters" are bypass valves, to prevent water lock.

The fender-well placement seems to only restrict air when the car is static, ie, on the dyno.

After engine is fully warmed IATs are 2-5 degrees above ambient while in motion.

The tubing is larger diameter than Stillen.

Probably requires tuning for best results.

Has some cool tricks and touches that other intakes don't have, like Venturi devices in strategic places.

That's about all I can say right now, but I will say that if you are doing a serious build for combined street/track (meaning you want CAI since you aren't adding aero assistance mechanisms to the car and ditching VVEL, etc) then this intake, with proper tuning support, is most likely the best part you can get, off the shelf.

Wish I could be more forthcoming, but I signed stuff that says I can't, yet. :-)






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Skull Crusher 03-10-2012 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Rooskey (Post 1591328)
This intake has already been a topic on this forum before. Most people bched about the foam filter half way up the intake tubes. Personally I dont car for long tube intake designs. The last half of the intake tubing going into the TB is going to get heat soaked anyways, and the "cold" air (or whatever ambient temp air; that is always changing from season to season) that is coming in does nothing but challenge your tune. I prefer to me on a more consistant basis.

So will a short tube.;)

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Originally Posted by Rooskey (Post 1591328)
This intake has already been a topic on this forum before. Most people bched about the foam filter half way up the intake tubes. Personally I dont car for long tube intake designs. The last half of the intake tubing going into the TB is going to get heat soaked anyways, and the "cold" air (or whatever ambient temp air; that is always changing from season to season) that is coming in does nothing but challenge your tune. I prefer to me on a more consistant basis.

So will a short tube.;) It won't really challenge a tune either. They're built in variables and parameters which the ECU is designed to automatically adjusts too. Colder air will make more horsepower/tq and the ECU will automatically adjust to those variables.

A short tube intake is constantly heat soaked by the engine compartment temperature. The temperature variations in a short tube vs. cold air system are substantial. The cold air system does exactly what it's designed to do and has been proven time and time again with plenty of empirical data to support it. To much intake heat, which is constant with a short tube system ='s lost of horsepower. The only way to effectively reduce the heat is to place a barrier between the heat source and the tube, vent it or mover the intake into a cooler element of air. Hot air rises, while colder more dense air is settles lower. So placing the intake lower out of a constant heat source, produces cooler denser intake temperatures. If your not convinced, here's a little test. Feel the engine compartment after it's been run at normal temperatures. Heat rises off the motor and you can feel it at a distance. Let it cool down and you won't feel any heat rising. Simple physics.

As the hot air rises, it's reflected by the hood back onto the engine producing more heat, hence heat soaked. It won't move lower and vent to the bottom of the engine. It will keep recycling itself maintaining a higher overall temperature. Anything directly under the hood will become heat soaked including the intake tubes and the filters, because air around it is heat saturated. The mix of hot air from the engine compartment and cooler outside air will effectually cause a miniature vortex, causing a rush of trapped hot air being pulled into the intake. The stock engine intake area and the CFM it produces is not sufficient to reduce intake temperatures by itself. Lowering the intake and isolating it from the heat soaked engine compartment, does effectively lower intake temperature overall and at the same time increase the CFM. Sure there will be some heat transfer on the upper tube from the engine but not nearly as severe.

Do this little test; Let a water hose set out in the hot sun for a couple of hours. The outside of the hose will be almost to hot to touch. Now turn the water on and let the water run through it for a couple of minutes. The water inside the hose will cool the hose. This illustrates the colder air traveling from the outside into the intake from a constant source of colder air, thus dramatically reducing the overall intake temperature.

Sorry no, a short tube intake will not provide a more constant source of cooler air, like a specifically designed Cold Air System. At least Not unless you vent the hood and allow the trapped hot air out.

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370 (Post 1591615)
In the case of the intake. I trust the NISMO product first. But remember, the R-tune line is NOT covered by warranties of any kind. Just in case you guys are thinking any different.

But is a permissible modification by Nissan. So when you roll into your nearest Nissan dealer you won't get a bunch of crap about running a aftermarket intake.

Imtired 03-10-2012 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by sh0velman (Post 1591691)
has some cool tricks and touches that other intakes don't have, like venturi devices in strategic places.

FREE TURBONATORS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


I'm also curious how this will perform vs. the gen 3's

koffeegy 06-05-2012 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Sh0velMan (Post 1591691)
Soooo. I can't say a whole lot right now, but...

The "foam filters" are bypass valves, to prevent water lock.

The fender-well placement seems to only restrict air when the car is static, ie, on the dyno.

After engine is fully warmed IATs are 2-5 degrees above ambient while in motion.

The tubing is larger diameter than Stillen.

Probably requires tuning for best results.

Has some cool tricks and touches that other intakes don't have, like Venturi devices in strategic places.

That's about all I can say right now, but I will say that if you are doing a serious build for combined street/track (meaning you want CAI since you aren't adding aero assistance mechanisms to the car and ditching VVEL, etc) then this intake, with proper tuning support, is most likely the best part you can get, off the shelf.

Wish I could be more forthcoming, but I signed stuff that says I can't, yet. :-)






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So how are they working for you? Did you have to get a tune after the install or was it plug and play?

Thanks in advance,

twinturbonet 06-05-2012 02:46 PM

$674.00... Jesus.

DCNISMO 06-05-2012 06:12 PM

I posted pictures and dyno plots with mine in the tune section. It works quite well and I did not cut my radiator panel. When I go get an oil change I'll see what the dealer says about it. I have a tune and berk hfc's too. This weekend it was cool and the NIsmo ran like a bull. I get my FI exhaust soon and I'll post that too.

Sh0velMan 06-05-2012 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by koffeegy (Post 1755364)
So how are they working for you? Did you have to get a tune after the install or was it plug and play?

Thanks in advance,


They're a great choice for streetable car.

On my car, I needed a tune, but I have long tube headers and the nismo catback.

Depends on your mods, really.

Mine may be for sale soon for a very reasonable price ;)

koffeegy 06-05-2012 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Sh0velMan (Post 1755775)
They're a great choice for streetable car.

On my car, I needed a tune, but I have long tube headers and the nismo catback.

Depends on your mods, really.

Mine may be for sale soon for a very reasonable price ;)

I have no other mods on my NISMO. Why are you going to sell?

Sh0velMan 06-05-2012 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by koffeegy (Post 1755968)
I have no other mods on my NISMO. Why are you going to sell?

Potentially have a new sponsor who has their own product. ;)

tjlazer 02-09-2014 03:50 PM

Anyone ever find out what these dyno at and can the wire be extended/patched so the warning light doesn't come on?


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