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So the Cosworth's should perform as well but let less debris through?

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Old 02-29-2012, 04:33 PM   #16 (permalink)
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So the Cosworth's should perform as well but let less debris through?
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So the Cosworth's should perform as well but let less debris through?
You'd need to directly compare flow data, I don't have flow numbers for either.
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Interesting....

So for engine longevity, would people say its better to just stick to more restrictive (no power gains)
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I use Cosworth's as well; it requires no oiling.
the K&N's dont either
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the K&N's dont either
Pretty sure K&N doesn't make a dry filter?
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the K&N's dont either
I thought they are oil based
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If you ran a K&N filter without oil it'd let everything in just about.
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edit: m4a1 beat me to it. ^^

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the K&N's dont either
if i'm not mistaken, K&N's are oiled out of the box. they may not "require" oiling, however, that's how the filter traps dirt and dust. no oil on the K&N = no filtration, from my understanding.
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you wash them and reoil every 30-50k miles depending on where you live/driving habits etc.
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if i'm not mistaken, K&N's are oiled out of the box. they may not "require" oiling, however, that's how the filter traps dirt and dust. no oil on the K&N = no filtration, from my understanding.
Exactly. After it gets dirtied the filter must be cleaned, dried, and re-oiled.
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Exactly. After it gets dirtied the filter must be cleaned, dried, and re-oiled.
Yes yes thats what i meant... sorry for the confusion.
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i have the AFE dry flow-s filters...im pretty sure is what they are called.

i dunno how great or terrible they are,but i like them
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So what's the difference between the Cosworth's and K&N's?
Cosworth is disposale (you have to buy new one's at regular service intervals).

I think K&N flows more than 10% over OEM.

The K&N and Cosworth both claim around 98% (K&N states 96-99% is what their filters normally test, obviously variance exists).

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It's just showing you the number of defects per millions of opportunities given specific filtration rates. If Cosworth is at 98%+ you can see where it'd fit in.
Where did you get this? Is this a table created from the diesel-forums test a while back?
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i read somewhere that Cosworth said you can vacuum the filter and it'll be good-to-go.
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