Review: Motordyne E370

Originally Posted by issey.miyake

hey mate

i went from stock to E370

check out my thread here

Originally Posted by mpp9

Oops. Got mixed up with the threads. Thanks.

Quick question, how do you think it compares to fast intentions? Aggressive growl going WOT?

Originally Posted by modme

I thought we were talking about the exhaust system. Why are you all of a sudden crying about forced induction versus NA?

I like how you quickly edited your post. Did you see my DIY on the turbo install?

Originally Posted by modme

We were talking about the merits of the exhaust system and the outcomes of the dyno and tuning.

Originally Posted by modme

We were talking about the merits of the exhaust system and the outcomes of the dyno and tuning........................QUOTE]

What you don't seem understand is I'm not here to have a technical conversation with you. Your welcome to comment and disagree on anything you wish.

I'm not here for your personal edification, to share decades of experience, discuss our engine building methods or act as your personal tutor. I'm here to support the manufactures like Motodyne, others and ourselves, work hard to put out solid products for hobbyist, professional builders, organized racers and enthusiasts.

If you read the entire thread and others like it, asked questions with Tony, you'd understand some of the dynamics of the exhaust. The potential for the exhaust to allow and enhance additional internal engine modifications is highly prevalent, unlike the Gemini. If you'd expect an additional 10 hp out of any exhaust with his current modifications, it's nothing but a pipe dream. This has been stated unequivocally many times.

The OP's expectations are overly inflated and when he didn't see the imagined greater output, he started bad mouthing Tony and Motodyne. Then came the not so proponent lynch mob. It always works out this way on forums. Members jump on the, "complainers band wagon," without owning the product or the slightest bit of understanding.

Of course you having the mentality of a child, this needs to be spell out for you.

DILLIGAF what you purchased from Motodyne in the past. It doesn't have a thing to do with your original comments to me or make you any more creditable. I used your lack of engine building experience as a example; as an engine builder, you've got Tee Tee experience but act as if you're some self-professed expert, not just here but in allot of previous threads.

There's a great deal more to building and tuning a NA engine then just bolting on parts, installing a tune and expecting to see massive hp gains. As a point of reference and experience, all you've done is a bolt on DIY TT install.

My point being again: You've got little or no experience with NA tuning or building, let alone have a lengthy dicussion on or diagnose a supposed tuning issue with a manufactures exhaust.

Again, it's called experience. You want others to believe your highly experienced and creditable, but frankly you've been called out by someone who earns a living at it daily. Along with a family who's been sustained by it for three generations. It's not a question weather or not I have extensive engine building knowledge, it's more to demonstrated your lack of, big difference.

Let him take it to a professional and have the proper tuning parameters installed. Though, no matter what he does with the modifications he current is running, there's not going to be a substantial gains from one exhaust to the next, until he takes the next step. When and if he does he'll see. If he's going to limit his modifications to only bolt on externals, then he should have stayed with the Gemini. Hence sell the Motodyne to someone else who who will appreciate it or be satisfied with the results and move on instead of trying to dismay others to purchase it.

Most of these type of threads start and end up in a very negative way against the part manufacture, this one is no different. Eventually, in come the "know it all trolls," like yourself attempting to find additional fault or issues, where there are none.

You follow?

Originally Posted by Skull Crusher

No, your just as lame as your comments and advice.

Why, because you're spouting off about a NA engine and tuning, which you have absolutely no experience in building or personally tuning. I've read some of your BS posts to other members and a performance engine builder you're not, coming from one who is.

You see, some of us like Motodyne, are in the performance business and make and actual living out of it. Three generations of engine builders and performance shop owners are part of my family, for good reason. That's experience, conviction and dedication to the sport. Not like you Nar-du-well hobbyist owners, who drift in and out of the sport. You're the type who believes they've got the pulse on engine building or tuning, on the contrary you haven't got a clue.

You lack the knowledge and conviction but are always prepared to ridicule a manufacture, about something you don't understand or comprehend.

Frankly, you believe your qualified to give advice to others but in reality, people like yourself cause more problems then good. You've already given out enough of bad advice through previous threads.

Bolting on a TT on a 3 year old G37 is no great feat or accomplishment. Leave the NA engine building and tuning advice, to those who have enough experience not to lead others in the wrong direction.

You're the worst kind of troll. You only jump in when everything else has been said and done, just to add your BS and stir the pot. Last time I checked, this was a 370Z enthuiast forum, which you don't seem to own.

Originally Posted by modme

Again, you are blabbering on about how you have experience but have nothing to prove it. Not contributing to the exhaust discussion but insisting that you have more experience than everyone else.

Yup, you’re right, I was only able to bolt on a twin turbo kit, install my own OS Giken clutch, upgrade my navigation, install a carpc that works seamlessly with the stock screen to display GTR style gauges, install KW coilovers, retrofit quad xenon HIDs. But anyone can do those things. But NO ONE can take a part an engine and put it back together like you do.

So your nismo is fully built and making 400whp right? Wait what?! After all the talk of experience, you have nothing to prove it?

Originally Posted by MaDMaXX

OK, someone answer me this, did, or did not, Seb from SZ post earlier on in this thread?

I've just gone back and browsed through, i couldn't find his posts at all, i could have sworn they were there as he originally took offence to something Tony@Motordyne said.

I also remember someone mentioning that there was either nothing to gain from tuning spark advance or that it couldn't be tuned on the 370. Someone please help me out here, i don't like where all this is heading.

Originally Posted by MaDMaXX

OK, someone answer me this, did, or did not, Seb from SZ post earlier on in this thread?

I've just gone back and browsed through, i couldn't find his posts at all, i could have sworn they were there as he originally took offence to something Tony@Motordyne said.

I also remember someone mentioning that there was either nothing to gain from tuning spark advance or that it couldn't be tuned on the 370. Someone please help me out here, i don't like where all this is heading.

Originally Posted by MaDMaXX

So i wasn't mistaken?

Now forgive me for jumping to conclusions, but, how bad would it look (after saying 370 can't be spark tuned) if CAT then tuned that and gained power, then SZ took it back and showed the loss?

I don't think that'd look very good...

Originally Posted by modme

He obviously only posts in this thread looking for a fight. I'm going to be the more mature one and bring the thread back to topic.

Question for the OP, when you had the confirmatory dyno done at SpecialZ, did you watch the tuner rewrite the old tune over the Church tune?

Also, the graph you posted is the best for both tunes. Do you have the rest of the dyno runs? Maybe we can compile average gain instead of best gain.

Originally Posted by 370Z JT

The deletion of posts both by SZ and Motordyne occurred on 3-1-12. My tune date with CAT was 3-13-12. The deletion was performed by admin/mod. Perhaps AK can shed some light to why.