CBE w/no or least drone?

ImportConvert

Finally have a line on a car in the US soon, numbers are agreeable, etc.

What CBE should I put on it? How much whp will this give me?

I want a nice tone, and NO drone. I hate drone with a passion.

XwChriswX

Drone is subjective, some people say one exhaust gives it to you, another group will say another brand will give you drone.

Are you looking for just a CBE or a HFC/TP combo as well? I can tell you keeping the stock cats will remove any drone.

Fast Intentions gives you a multitude of options to look through:

Long Tube Headers
HFC's/(R)TP's
12" Resonators
18" Resonators
CF or SS Cans

All of which can be mixed and matched to produce exactly the performance/sound you want. With no drone.

Others to look into would be ARK, or HKS. Very similar designs to achieve the same purpose. ARK also has the ART Pipes which if you'd like a Test Pipe without rasp, they are a great option to get.

__________________

Bonnie - Stage 2, Audio build coming this fall!
R.I.P. Abby 3/29/10 - 3/30/14

ImportConvert

I am leaving on the stock OEM cats, and just changing the cat-back, and putting in drop-in K&N filters.

What kind of whp am I looking at for that setup, and what about BERK? I like their sound, but wanted other advice before I threw their name in the mix.

XwChriswX

The stock cats will muffle out any real drone/rasp you might get. So it's basically whichever one you prefer. I honestly like the look of the Fast Intentions/ARK/HKS design over Berk/Stillen/Nismo. But that's personal preference. Power numbers have been proven that FI nets the highest gains. But 1/2 hp difference is up to you if it's worth it. No exhaust is going to be leaps and bounds better than others of similar design.

Have you been to any meets to hear different setups in person? Or watched any vids?

__________________

Bonnie - Stage 2, Audio build coming this fall!
R.I.P. Abby 3/29/10 - 3/30/14

ImportConvert

I watched some vids, but get the impression that vids suck. Cameras enhance tiny noise and deaden loud noise, making all things sound nearly the same. No good. I liked the Berk, though, and like the stock appearance. Is Berk good? Will the Berk and K&N drop-in filters put me at 295-305whp on a dynojet?

XwChriswX

Yeah vids are horrible for exhausts, even high end ones. It's just not the same as in person, but you get an 'idea'. Berk isn't bad, and if it looks the way you want then that's important. Those two mods should get you there. You could also look into some Post MAF Tubes as well. They aren't very expensive and are a good pair with drop in filters. Those should get you to your 300whp mark.

__________________

Bonnie - Stage 2, Audio build coming this fall!
R.I.P. Abby 3/29/10 - 3/30/14

ImportConvert

Link to post MAF tubes? Purpose? Effect on A/F?

ETA: NVM, looks like $200 for @ 10hp/10#tq and A/F is markedly unchanged if I get the filter/tube combo, plus the Berk, should have me at 295-305whp?

http://www.z1motorsports.com/g37_370...oducts_id=5292

XwChriswX

Yeah, it's a cheap mod, I think I got my tubes and filters for $250 for the total. Not bad for half the cost of Stillens with almost the same path of airflow. Made it worth it in my book.

__________________

Bonnie - Stage 2, Audio build coming this fall!
R.I.P. Abby 3/29/10 - 3/30/14

ImportConvert

Z1 Silicone Post-MAF Intake Hoses

I plan on doing this plus the BERK. How is fitment with BERK?

XwChriswX

I have the Z1 hoses myself. Looks good.

For the Berk, their first batches did not fit well and had some problems. As far as I know their current product fits as it was supposed to. But I don't know for sure, haven't seen a lot of people getting them currently. With other vendors coming on board with CBE's.

__________________

Bonnie - Stage 2, Audio build coming this fall!
R.I.P. Abby 3/29/10 - 3/30/14

ImportConvert

Hrmmm...I have heard the FI has some drone to it, makes me nervous. I looked at AAM True Duals, any impression?
AAM Competition True Dual Exhaust System (370Z)

XwChriswX

I don't know of a lot of people that have them off the top of my head. So I can't say anything about the AAM honestly. However based on the price of the AAM, if I was going to spend that much, I would go F.I. or ARK or Motordyne since they just released theirs, or BERK as a last option.

If wouldn't hurt to give Tony at Fast Intentions a call, he'll walk you through what setups he has and how to best get what you want out of your system. He won't try to push product on you if you're not interested, but help you figure out exactly what setup you want, even if it's not an F.I. system.

I currently have the Drop-In Filters, MAF Tubes, F.I. LTH's and CBE (18" resonators and SS Cans). I have No drone. I love it. The LTH's make it just unique enough that it doesn't sound the same as other F.I. setups that are around me.

Also, the F.I. CBE matched with BERK HFC's like Triple's has, sounds grrrreeeeaaaat too. Although I know HFC's aren't what you're looking for, just trying to give you the most options/combinations.

__________________

Bonnie - Stage 2, Audio build coming this fall!
R.I.P. Abby 3/29/10 - 3/30/14

ImportConvert

Fast Intentions looks good and is "cheap".

How much difference is there in the 12" and 18" resonators, and which would I want with otherwise OEM exhaust? I am past my need to have the loudest car out there, I just want something that will give a little more feed-back off idle than the OEM.

Nick911sc

Just to throw this in there. I have a Berk CBE on my car and the fitment was superb and the quality was top notch. Not just myself but my mechanic was extremely impressed by the system and he works on cars worth more than houses in my area.

Red__Zed

FI has drone, Aam has drone. Most owners will confirm, I've heard both (and both versions of the AAM, and there is definitely notable drone.


Berk and invidia are both (essentially) drone free options. They sound the same because they are (basically) the same.