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whoLEEoh 02-19-2012 02:34 PM

Motordyne M370
 
So I recently purchased a m370 from Tony at Motordyne and I could honestly say that I have never dealt with a nicer company in my life. Even when I had some trouble installing it I called him after business hours and he picked up and helped me while even asking me to send him pictures to further help me, there needs to be a section here where we can tell sponsors how much we appreciate them because they should know IMO. Now onto the good stuff, I currently have gears,intakes,exhaust,test pipes and I didnt think I would feel a big difference with this manifold but WOW was I mistaken! My butt dyno is reading easily 10-15whp mid range..my power band is so smooth now. That being that im already tuned this mod made it feel so much better. I HIGHLY RECOMMEND this mod to any1 looking to spice up the mid range for their daily/40mph starts/exiting corners encounters! Hit up Tony and Im sure he wont let you down and will set you up with one and super prompt shipping..3-4 days from cali to miami.

THANKS A LOT MOTORDYNE AND TONY FOR ADDING SOME MORE LIFE TO MY CAR

SPOHN 02-19-2012 05:29 PM

Awesome story. In my one year of modding and many thousands of dollars there have been many vendors I've dealt with and only three were great and came through as promised. It's pretty bad when everytime I order something I know there is going to be big dely even though at first they say there will be no issues. But something always happens beyond there control. Don't offer a product here then when we order you have to call another vendor/ manufacture to see if it's in stock. That bites the hell out of me.

370Z JT 02-19-2012 06:19 PM

need to get it on a dyno to verify the gains, being that you are already tuned prior to install. But yea, Tony is awesome!

NoirG 02-19-2012 10:49 PM

Did you notice any difference in sound after installed Julio?

Rooskey 02-19-2012 10:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 370Z JT (Post 1553670)
need to get it on a dyno to verify the gains, being that you are already tuned prior to install. But yea, Tony is awesome!


Make sure you look at the midrange gains (hp and tq) on your dyno sheet. Im sure they will reveal somewhat of what your but dyno did. Most peps only look at peak numbers around here, which is what this product does not produce.

whoLEEoh 02-19-2012 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by NeverBoneStck (Post 1554034)
What exhaust did you have before and how does the new exhaust sound ???

it was the manifold i installed not the exhaust...and yeah afterwards it sounded deeper atleast the intake side

NeverBoneStck 02-19-2012 11:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by whoLEEoh (Post 1554047)
it was the manifold i installed not the exhaust...and yeah afterwards it sounded deeper atleast the intake side

My bad .. I was thinking E37O ....

whoLEEoh 02-21-2012 09:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rooskey (Post 1554044)
Make sure you look at the midrange gains (hp and tq) on your dyno sheet. Im sure they will reveal somewhat of what your but dyno did. Most peps only look at peak numbers around here, which is what this product does not produce.

Yeah I wasn't looking for peak power. Car isn't a dyno queen lol. Some people care to much about 3 whp at an rpm your in for .02 seconds. Midrange is where it's at.

Urbanracer 02-21-2012 08:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by whoLEEoh (Post 1553352)
Now onto the good stuff, I currently have gears,intakes,exhaust,test pipes and I didnt think I would feel a big difference with this manifold but WOW was I mistaken! My butt dyno is reading easily 10-15whp mid range..my power band is so smooth now. That being that im already tuned this mod made it feel so much better. I HIGHLY RECOMMEND this mod to any1 looking to spice up the mid range for their daily/40mph starts/exiting corners encounters!

Thanks for the review, I'm thinking about picking this up in the near future. From what I understand the M370 makes the biggest gains on Z's that have bolt-on mods but are not tuned.

Motordyne 02-22-2012 08:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Urbanracer (Post 1557280)
...From what I understand the M370 makes the biggest gains on Z's that have bolt-on mods but are not tuned.

From all the independent dynos posted (with & w/o a tune) a tune doesn't appear to make a difference to the delta gain.

whoLEEoh 02-22-2012 10:44 AM

i honestly dont know why more 370's dont have this mod..but have 200-250 dollar shift knobs...im sure this is one of the best bang for the buck that give u 10-15 midrange power no matter what mods you have done.

red6spd 02-22-2012 10:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by whoLEEoh (Post 1558196)
i honestly dont know why more 370's dont have this mod..but have 200-250 dollar shift knobs...im sure this is one of the best bang for the buck that give u 10-15 midrange power no matter what mods you have done.


Because its alot of money for something that does not add alot of power and usually makes you lose peak hp. Your just guessing 10-15 because of the way you think the car feels. Did you do a before and after dyno? I have seen a before and after dyno of this part and it added little gains and then lost to a similar modded Z without the manifold.

whoLEEoh 02-22-2012 10:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by red6spd (Post 1558221)
Because its alot of money for something that does not add alot of power and usually makes you lose peak hp. Your just guessing 10-15 because of the way you think the car feels. Did you do a before and after dyno? I have seen a before and after dyno of this part and it added little gains and then lost to a similar modded Z without the manifold.

i have checke power difference in a different way :X lol in a comparison of 2 vehicles on the road...and i think mid range power is more important than peak...a lot of other mods like intakes/exhaust give u top end but u lost torque..you'll be making some of it up with this...(NOT REAL NUMBERS BUT TO GET IDEA) you'll be faster making 320 from 6k-8k than making 280 at 6k but 324-330 at 8k

red6spd 02-22-2012 11:01 AM

Hay I'm all for making more power NA but I dont think its worth the money. And I agree mid range is more important, but if I'm gaining a small mid range and losing peak I dont see the point? IDK. How much is the M370 going for now?

whoLEEoh 02-22-2012 11:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by red6spd (Post 1558243)
Hay I'm all for making more power NA but I dont think its worth the money. And I agree mid range is more important, but if I'm gaining a small mid range and losing peak I dont see the point? IDK. How much is the M370 going for now?

585 if i remember correctly...and i just re read what i put before and i made the peak power wayyy to different lol i edited it for more realism

FBNISSAN 02-22-2012 11:19 AM

please PM me for pricing......

whoLEEoh 02-22-2012 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by FBNISSAN (Post 1558282)
please PM me for pricing......

I knew you'd chime in lol. Jomer always with the best prices. Good looking out!

Motordyne 02-22-2012 12:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by red6spd (Post 1558243)
Hay I'm all for making more power NA but I dont think its worth the money. And I agree mid range is more important, but if I'm gaining a small mid range and losing peak I dont see the point? IDK. How much is the M370 going for now?

The value of the delta gains is a subjective thing to consider of course. The independent dyno plots shown here are from a wide range mix of different setups. With and without various other modifications and tunes.

The value of the relative gain is up to you, but these are intake manifold gains that, so far, cannot be produced in any other way.

And although the manifold doesn't make as much power as a full exhaust system, it also costs much less. So the relative power/cost ratio is proportional. Additionally, the gain is right in the midrange/upper midrange where it can always be used.



http://i352.photobucket.com/albums/r.../M370Dyno1.gif

http://i352.photobucket.com/albums/r.../M370Dyno2.gif


http://i352.photobucket.com/albums/r.../M370Dyno3.gif


http://i352.photobucket.com/albums/r.../M370Dyno4.gif


http://i352.photobucket.com/albums/r.../M370Dyno5.gif


http://i352.photobucket.com/albums/r.../M370Dyno6.gif

http://i352.photobucket.com/albums/r.../M370Dyno7.gif

http://i352.photobucket.com/albums/r.../M370Dyno8.gif

http://i352.photobucket.com/albums/r.../M370Dyno9.gif

http://i352.photobucket.com/albums/r...M370Dyno10.gif

http://i352.photobucket.com/albums/r...M370Dyno11.gif


http://i352.photobucket.com/albums/r...M370Dyno12.gif


http://i352.photobucket.com/albums/r...M370Dyno13.gif


http://i352.photobucket.com/albums/r...M370Dyno14.gif


Independent Test #1 http://www.the370z.com/intake-exhaus...no-tested.html
http://www.the370z.com/attachments/i...ested-scan.jpg

Nicks Delta Dyno Test Results
http://i352.photobucket.com/albums/r...ickDeltaTQ.gif

Philips Delta Dyno Test Results

As tested on a moderately modified 370Z.

http://i352.photobucket.com/albums/r...Overview-1.gif

http://i352.photobucket.com/albums/r...DeltaPower.gif

Daisuke Dynos
http://i352.photobucket.com/albums/r...ukeOverlay.jpg

Staples Dynos
http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f2...es187/hjhk.jpg
http://www.the370z.com/intake-exhaus...mparisons.html

DocAam,
http://i826.photobucket.com/albums/z...z/7eb11543.jpg

Wstar,
http://www.the370z.com/intake-exhaus...nifold-60.html
http://www.the370z.com/members/wstar...stock-blue.png


Mike,
http://www.the370z.com/intake-exhaus...nifold-64.html
http://img832.imageshack.us/img832/5633/dynob.jpg
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Jon testing
http://www.the370z.com/intake-exhaus...nifold-65.html

ALL RUNS OVERLAID:
http://i352.photobucket.com/albums/r...AllZcarman.gif

BEST STOCK VS BEST M370:
http://i352.photobucket.com/albums/r...BestVsBest.gif

DELTA POWER (BEST VS BEST):

http://i352.photobucket.com/albums/r...arManDelta.gif
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http://www.the370z.com/members/370z-...el-filters.jpg

370Z JT 02-22-2012 12:25 PM

That last graph is mine.

whoLEEoh 02-22-2012 01:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 370Z JT (Post 1558465)
That last graph is mine.

do u think it was worth sacrificing 1.9 whp top end for 12 whp and 13 lb/tq mid range? approx 4,800-6,250rpm (where u land when you shift)

370Z JT 02-22-2012 05:05 PM

^yes.

370Zfeeler 02-22-2012 05:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FBNISSAN (Post 1558282)
please PM me for pricing......

Jomer has the Best Prices all over...

ChipsWithDips 02-22-2012 05:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by whoLEEoh (Post 1558579)
do u think it was worth sacrificing 1.9 whp top end for 12 whp and 13 lb/tq mid range? approx 4,800-6,250rpm (where u land when you shift)

Not sure if you are joking, but the area under the curve ultimately matters much more than peak HP number in terms of acceleration performance. So even though there's a tiny drop in hp at peak rpm, you look at all the extra area under the curve and it's pretty obvious this is a net gain in performance.

whoLEEoh 02-22-2012 06:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChipsWithDips (Post 1559230)
Not sure if you are joking, but the area under the curve ultimately matters much more than peak HP number in terms of acceleration performance. So even though there's a tiny drop in hp at peak rpm, you look at all the extra area under the curve and it's pretty obvious this is a net gain in performance.

Lol I know I was being sarcastic but I realize it's hard to read sarcasm lol. I said it because it seems people are caught up on peak hp and not in performance all around.

Urbanracer 02-22-2012 06:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by whoLEEoh (Post 1558579)
do u think it was worth sacrificing 1.9 whp top end for 12 whp and 13 lb/tq mid range? approx 4,800-6,250rpm (where u land when you shift)

Sacrificing power you won't miss for power you'll notice is certainly worth the trade off IMO. More area under the curve in areas where its far more usable is definately worth sacrificing peak HP to me.

MaDMaXX 02-22-2012 09:02 PM

All true ^^^^^


Something else people may not have noticed, although the line is kind of all over the place on the delta charts, notice the line is smooth on the overall charts.
This indicates that it's smoothing the power curve out, the peaks and troughs of the delta are filling the gaps and increasing where before there were holes.

whoLEEoh 02-23-2012 06:32 PM

it makes the power feel super smooth...almost endless...ofcourse til u hear the bah bah bah from hitting the rev limiter lol


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