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I was wondering, most of the aftermarket intakes are stainless steel tubes, which hold more heat than the plastic tubes FACT. What if, you wrapped the stainless tube in exhaust

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Old 10-30-2011, 05:06 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I was wondering, most of the aftermarket intakes are stainless steel tubes, which hold more heat than the plastic tubes FACT. What if, you wrapped the stainless tube in exhaust heat wrap? granted it wont be nearly as blingly, but it would insulate it and help to reduce intake temperatures.. I could care less if it isnt as good looking, if i get some decent reduction on the intake charge it'll absolutely be worth it

So my question is, do you guys think its worth it? im going to try it and let you guys know what i come up with!
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This has been brought up before. No it is not a good idea b/c the heat passes through so fast that it doesn't have enough time to heat up. Please remove this thread.
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This has been brought up before. No it is not a good idea b/c the heat passes through so fast that it doesn't have enough time to heat up. Please remove this thread.




Wrapping drops IATs pretty substantially, especially when idling in traffic (or on the strip) A lot of guys on here have done it to good results, albeit not necessarily with exhaust wrap.

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@V8killer not really sure what your talking about, its physically impossible for heat o move through an object "fast enough" for it to not get hot??? that doesnt really make sense and if a post on here should get removed it should probably be that before people flame you

@Red_Zed i figured it would work but what would you recomend wrapping it with? and would exhaust wrap not work the same?
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It has been done with the Gen3, wstar did it: wstar's Journal
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@thedreamer thats exactly what i was thinking! looks like its worth doing too
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To each his own, but it's a waste of time and money, unless you plan on sitting in traffic for a few hours but even then who cares b/c the temps will drop once you start moving. If you think you will pick up a couple ponies by doing this your wrong. Yes it does drop temps. but nothing significant.
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Looks like v8killer has no idea wtf he's talking about lol
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@V8killer not really sure what your talking about, its physically impossible for heat o move through an object "fast enough" for it to not get hot??? that doesnt really make sense and if a post on here should get removed it should probably be that before people flame you

@Red_Zed i figured it would work but what would you recomend wrapping it with? and would exhaust wrap not work the same?
Sorry I meant to say the air passes through so fast that it doesn't really even get time to be the temperature of the intakes.
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To each his own, but it's a waste of time and money, unless you plan on sitting in traffic for a few hours but even then who cares b/c the temps will drop once you start moving. If you think you will pick up a couple ponies by doing this your wrong. Yes it does drop temps. but nothing significant.
Actually, it has been shown that even with the gen3 intakes the piping will heat up from extended driving (street/track/etc.) and even though you are pulling in fresh cold air the pipes themselves had increased in temps thus heating the air.
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Actually, it has been shown that even with the gen3 intakes the piping will heat up from extended driving (street/track/etc.) and even though you are pulling in fresh cold air the pipes themselves had increased in temps thus heating the air.
I understand that but at 55mph do you really think the temperatures on the intakes are so hot that it makes the air instantly the same temperature? NO GL if he wants to wrap it I suggest he doesn't and just make sure you got a good oil cooler.
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I understand that but at 55mph do you really think the temperatures on the intakes are so hot that it makes the air instantly the same temperature? NO GL if he wants to wrap it I suggest he doesn't and just make sure you got a good oil cooler.
Umm....oil cooler?
And yes, I would bet at 55mph the temps do increase dramatically if the pipes are at a higher temp. I am not saying the pipe temp will equal the air temp, but instead of having close to ambient temps your intake temps might be higher than they should be.
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its not a matter of the intake charge being hot enough to heat the tubes up (which is a completely insane thought anyway) its a matter of proximity.

lets establish some facts first
1. the tubes sit incredibly close to motor
2. stainless steel retains heats worse than lets say plastic

@V8killer so with those facts being said (and proven)wrapping the tubes to prevent heat soak from the motor would yield a subsatantial decrease in the actual intake charge.without some sort of shielding, the tubes will "heat soak" (maybe you should look that up while your at it). im trying to call you out (even though you specifically called me out in the beginning) but you really dont seem to have any idea what your talking about. thats not your fault but it would be better for the rest if you didnt try and pretend like you did

As to the topic, i appreciate the intelligent responses from everyone and i will be trying this very soon and ill keep everyone updated on my experience and the changes it will inevitably make!
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If you say so GL with the wrap.
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Old 10-30-2011, 07:18 PM   #15 (permalink)
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this is almost commical now:icon18

Back on topic:

Would exhaust wrap not suffice for this? Correct me if im wrong but isnt that just an insulator thats heat resistant?

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