Since we were all running together...have a pretty good idea what everyone went through... Besides, the point is to show the variance based on different drivers.... I have about three
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Since we were all running together...have a pretty good idea what everyone went through...
Besides, the point is to show the variance based on different drivers.... I have about three different sets of same driver/different run data as well. But again, thanks for all you've contributed to the forum. I know people appreciate it. |
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Interestingly enough, AEM used to post evidence that their media outperformed paper and oiled cotton medias when literally caked with dirt. However, they also showed that it was inferior in flow to oiled media that was clean (go figure, they pulled the chart off their site -- I posted it here somewhere; probably in my gallery). Anyway, on a N/A motor the difference will be pretty negligible in terms of power (maybe a bit more of a difference on a boosted engine), but I find the oiled media tends to do a better job of rejecting moisture in the air, and it seems to flow better when clean, so that's what I go with. Additional heat shielding may or may not be worth it. It's pretty much unknown, but if metered air temps are close to ambient already when moving, then no. It might reject some radiant heat sitting at idle, especially on an already blazing hot day, but I doubt the difference would be more than 1-2 whp because the air itself is still going to be heated up above ambient as it's drawn inside the bumper. Won't hurt to experiment for sh!ts and grins, but really all this extra shielding is overkill for a DD -- The OEM airboxes proably work very well as they are and any further imporvements will yeild diminsihing returns. This might be something to think about for drag racing, but if so, while your at it, why not mist the IM down to control even more heat? Again, unless you can log what the ECU is seeing (or get a very good estimate with sets of thermistors) it's really hard to determine what effect if any extra shielding would have anyway.
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If you wish to break it down into a more exact experiment then yes, we would need to do similar runs at precise times and record every detail, but that would be ludicrous and just plain stupid for what the results are showing.
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A couple of runs through by a halfway decent driver is plenty enough to know that the sport brakes have zero issues on the dragon. The speeds at which braking occur and the breaks in between braking keep it from fading.
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It not about fade. It's about how they heat, how the heat is distributed, how much winds up trapped in the caliper, etc. it's about knowing where to put your brake vents so thru actually help....
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No but reliable retrieval of data does. You can't control what happens on the highway whereas you can at the track so the data would be immensely more accurate and relatable...you know...since you track your car so much anyway.
If it hasn't happend yet i expect to see some BS about how Z brakes get 1.368 degrees hotter than mustang brakes so we should all burn our cars to the ground and collect the insurance money. |
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