Post Maf Tubes & Drop-ins, worth it??

Red__Zed · 10-20-2011, 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by b1adesofcha0s

If I come to ZDayZ would you be able to measure the difference between my IAT's and those for someone else with G3's? Just would like to see if the heat wrap is actually doing anything.

You need an obd plug in unit to do that, but yeah, it's easy.

Brakes an diff are much easier. Just point an ir gun.

b1adesofcha0s · 10-20-2011, 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed

You need an obd plug in unit to do that, but yeah, it's easy.

Brakes an diff are much easier. Just point an ir gun.

Would be cool to see.

Red__Zed · 10-20-2011, 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by DarkZide

Yes, we are all complete idiots. What did we ever do before you were born and graced the ear th with your infinite wisdom?

The day you get banned is the day i buy champagne for this entire forum. You are a Z hater, period.

Methodical, this is why I'll pm the info. Hopefully will still be able to get info over to the guys that want to use it.

GZ3 · 10-20-2011, 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by DarkZide

Yes, we are all complete idiots. What did we ever do before you were born and graced the ear th with your infinite wisdom?

The day you get banned is the day i buy champagne for this entire forum. You are a Z hater, period.

hahaha, why are you so over protective?

Any data input is valuable input as far as am concerned, just because some people cant carry a discussion without getting defensive

b1adesofcha0s · 10-20-2011, 01:40 PM

I think he has a stalker crush on you

DarkZide · 10-20-2011, 01:46 PM

I won't even get into how unreliable pointing an IR gun at the rotor is.

Red__Zed · 10-20-2011, 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by darkzide

i won't even get into how unreliable pointing an ir gun at the rotor is.

+\- .3*c

b1adesofcha0s · 10-20-2011, 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed

+\- .3*c

So what you're saying is it's useless

DarkZide · 10-20-2011, 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed

+\- .3*c

Thats not what i meant. Drive around aggressively and then take temps at different spots on the rotor, it can vary by quite a bit just on different spots. Not only that but if you were taking temps from various cars with similar brack setups then there are way too many variables in there to make it a reliable measurement. i.e. there is no experimental control.

About the only thing the IR gun will tell you is if one rotor is way hotter than another rotor. Which is useful for telling when the caliper brackets lock up on crap mustang brakes.

GZ3 · 10-20-2011, 01:57 PM

^^well am glad you have offered up and implemented better solutions, and all you data so far has been invaluable!

Red__Zed · 10-20-2011, 02:00 PM

I think you seriously underestimate the amount of lab time I have.

4 points on the rotor is more than enough to get a good idea of temp and distribution. A series of 10 or so cars, with temps taken after several runs provided pretty solid data--certainly more rigorous than anything else that has been provided.
I did find that at the end of the dragon, temps were pretty constant throughout the rotor. There wasn't much hot spotting, mostly due to it being a longer run without any hard braking zones.
More telling was the diff temps, but I'll spare you the results

theDreamer · 10-20-2011, 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by DarkZide

Thats not what i meant. Drive around aggressively and then take temps at different spots on the rotor, it can vary by quite a bit just on different spots. Not only that but if you were taking temps from various cars with similar brack setups then there are way too many variables in there to make it a reliable measurement. i.e. there is no experimental control.

About the only thing the IR gun will tell you is if one rotor is way hotter than another rotor. Which is useful for telling when the caliper brackets lock up on crap mustang brakes.

Wow...what do you want then? I full scientific study? No offense, but we take what results we can get from owners, and use the data in a relative method to apply to an average for all. I doubt Red is saying his results represent 99.9% of everything, but what it does represent is solid data which no one else has generated with as much accuracy as you can achieve in a field study.

DarkZide · 10-20-2011, 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed

I think you seriously underestimate the amount of lab time I have.

4 points on the rotor is more than enough to get a good idea of temp and distribution. A series of 10 or so cars, with temps taken after several runs provided pretty solid data--certainly more rigorous than anything else that has been provided.
I did find that at the end of the dragon, temps were pretty constant throughout the rotor. There wasn't much hot spotting, mostly due to it being a longer run without any hard braking zones.
More telling was the diff temps, but I'll spare you the results

I think you seriously overestimate yourself. As long as different drivers were making those runs the data is totally junk, as everyones driving habits are different. You'd also have no solid proof that an entire run was made or that they had to slow down for half the time. It's near impossible to get a 100% clear run through the dragon when temps are above 40* unless you go at 4 am, so the likely hood that you got dozens of 100% clear runs with everyone driving almost identically is basically a load of crap.

GZ3 · 10-20-2011, 02:09 PM

am having problems finding an emoticon for this threads progress

DarkZide · 10-20-2011, 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by theDreamer

but we take what results we can get from owners

Then why trust his "data"? He doesn't own a Z and ever since he sold the one he did have he's had an overly negative connotation towards everything Z related on this board under the guise of "helping out". Then he goes on to insult everyone by saying we are too dumb to want his "data". Yeah, thats who i'd trust for information.

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10-20-2011, 01:46 PM	#81 (permalink)
DarkZide Enthusiast Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: TN Posts: 291 Drives: 2010 370z BC M6 Rep Power: 15	I won't even get into how unreliable pointing an IR gun at the rotor is.

10-20-2011, 02:00 PM	#86 (permalink)
Red__Zed A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: window seat Posts: 28,940 Drives: Mostly on two wheels Rep Power: 120	I think you seriously underestimate the amount of lab time I have. 4 points on the rotor is more than enough to get a good idea of temp and distribution. A series of 10 or so cars, with temps taken after several runs provided pretty solid data--certainly more rigorous than anything else that has been provided. I did find that at the end of the dragon, temps were pretty constant throughout the rotor. There wasn't much hot spotting, mostly due to it being a longer run without any hard braking zones. More telling was the diff temps, but I'll spare you the results