LTH with HFC + CBE = ?

SS_Firehawk · 10-14-2011, 04:53 AM

Looking for some input on an exhaust setup I'm thinking about purchasing after I get back from duty. I'm thinking of getting either PPE or F.I long tube headers and mating it with a Motordyne XYZ Y pipe with a cat, and 5zigen exhaust. I's a little pricey but I know that I will never have to think about the exhaust and "what if's". It will probably run me $3k+ inc shipping. My car is bone stock right now. It would be nice to just get all the work done at once. To me it doesn't make sense to buy the CBE and install it, later get the Y pipe ( 3 cats now), and then bolt on headers or w/e conceivable way. The car would sound epic and the power gains will be better than 99% of most exhausts out there besides maybe running catless. Input & or criticism would be great.

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Adding videos and results to 1st post.

baseline dyno

Dyno after exhaust

startup

Drive

Dyno results

VQStryker · 10-14-2011, 07:38 AM

CBE go from the cat all the way back to the muffler. the LTH go from headers to CBE, replacing the cat with a straight pipe that's connected to the header. so you will be getting LTH and 5zigen cbe

VQStryker · 10-14-2011, 07:42 AM

If you want the hfc then you can go with short headers (4-1) with hfc, resonated tp's, tp's, or motordyne ART pipes with the 5zigen cbe

daisuke149 · 10-14-2011, 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by SS_Firehawk

Looking for some input on an exhaust setup I'm thinking about purchasing after I get back from duty. I'm thinking of getting either PPE or F.I long tube headers and mating it with a Motordyne XYZ Y pipe with a cat, and 5zigen exhaust. I's a little pricey but I know that I will never have to think about the exhaust and "what if's". It will probably run me $3k+ inc shipping. My car is bone stock right now. It would be nice to just get all the work done at once. To me it doesn't make sense to buy the CBE and install it, later get the Y pipe ( 3 cats now), and then bolt on headers or w/e conceivable way. The car would sound epic and the power gains will be better than 99% of most exhausts out there besides maybe running catless. Input & or criticism would be great.

if you really wanna go that route. just wait till the motordyne exhaust is out and then get long tubes and mate their exhaust to it, you can get a cat as part of their exhaust.

babbagandu · 10-14-2011, 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by daisuke149

if you really wanna go that route. just wait till the motordyne exhaust is out and then get long tubes and mate their exhaust to it, you can get a cat as part of their exhaust.

Sounds very interesting, is there a thread about this somewhere?

daisuke149 · 10-14-2011, 10:24 AM

No, Tony hasnt started a thread yet about the exhaust. just snippets of info in some of his other threads

babbagandu · 10-14-2011, 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by daisuke149

No, Tony hasnt started a thread yet about the exhaust. just snippets of info in some of his other threads

Gahh that's a bummer.

Are there any other options out there right now for someone who would want long tube headers but also wants at least a single cat somewhere in the exhaust?

daisuke149 · 10-14-2011, 10:28 AM

what the OP put. doing his XYZ pipe with a cat and then finding somemthing that would mate to it.

I'd just wait though. his exhaust is almost completed.

babbagandu · 10-14-2011, 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by daisuke149

what the OP put. doing his XYZ pipe with a cat and then finding somemthing that would mate to it.

I'd just wait though. his exhaust is almost completed.

Lol idk how I missed that. Repped anyway

SS_Firehawk · 10-14-2011, 10:34 AM

I can definitely hold out. I won't be home till the 1st two months of next year. Lord knows I have so many other things I can take care of :P

SS_Firehawk · 10-22-2011, 09:01 PM

So I picked up my premium membership to throw in some support to the site

I also started my ordering process... I've been like an addicted junkie in the private sales and vendor areas looking for deals. I found a couple good ones to start my modding. I found brand new PPE ceramic coated PPE LTH's for $850 + ship and a lightly used AE Performance oil cooler for $725. I'll be putting my order in for the Motordyne Y Pipe next month and watching like a hawk for their upcoming exhaust system to match. I also found a local shop through the forums "Paladin Advanced Automotive" that should be a great place for my services and installs.

Methodical4u · 10-22-2011, 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by daisuke149

if you really wanna go that route. just wait till the motordyne exhaust is out and then get long tubes and mate their exhaust to it, you can get a cat as part of their exhaust.

or he could get the XYZ pipe with HFC too.

SS_Firehawk · 10-23-2011, 12:13 AM

So the new Motordyne Exhaust will have the ability to choose between straight pipe, resonator, and cat just like the Y pipe? If so, That is just flat out awesome.

SS_Firehawk · 10-28-2011, 03:23 AM

So... totally unrelated, I spent the better part of an hour playing Need for Speed Shift II on my computer racing... you guessed it, a 370Z. I was trying to beat my previous best lap time on Nurburgring of 8:14 in a bone stock Z. After many furious attempts at generating a near perfect lap, I did an 8:08. I definitely do not have the stones to do some of the things I did to get that.

SS_Firehawk · 10-29-2011, 01:47 AM

Well I picked up PPE headers for a good deal and found an AE Performance oil cooler for a solid deal also. Next purchase is the Y pipe

I did change gears a bit with the exhaust. I've been looking at the Tanabe Medallion Touring exhaust system as it is a few hundred cheaper than the 5zigen without compromising quality. I found it brand new for under $1200 + ship. I've heard video's but not in RL. I verified inner diameter sizes of both the Y pipe and mid pipe to make sure they were the same size. What do you guys think of the Tanabe exhaust? It's slim pickings compared to all the dual exhausts I see at fair prices. It seems all the exhausts that use a Y pipe cost a small fortune and made of titanium...

10-14-2011, 10:34 AM	#10 (permalink)
SS_Firehawk Premium Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Tampa Posts: 4,142 Drives: 13' Magma Red Nismo Rep Power: 7335	I can definitely hold out. I won't be home till the 1st two months of next year. Lord knows I have so many other things I can take care of :P __________________ Old Car:GTM TSC'd 550whp / 410lbft tq @ 11.88PSI New Car: Under Construction

10-22-2011, 09:01 PM	#11 (permalink)
SS_Firehawk Premium Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Tampa Posts: 4,142 Drives: 13' Magma Red Nismo Rep Power: 7335	So I picked up my premium membership to throw in some support to the site I also started my ordering process... I've been like an addicted junkie in the private sales and vendor areas looking for deals. I found a couple good ones to start my modding. I found brand new PPE ceramic coated PPE LTH's for $850 + ship and a lightly used AE Performance oil cooler for $725. I'll be putting my order in for the Motordyne Y Pipe next month and watching like a hawk for their upcoming exhaust system to match. I also found a local shop through the forums "Paladin Advanced Automotive" that should be a great place for my services and installs. __________________ Old Car:GTM TSC'd 550whp / 410lbft tq @ 11.88PSI New Car: Under Construction

10-23-2011, 12:13 AM	#13 (permalink)
SS_Firehawk Premium Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Tampa Posts: 4,142 Drives: 13' Magma Red Nismo Rep Power: 7335	So the new Motordyne Exhaust will have the ability to choose between straight pipe, resonator, and cat just like the Y pipe? If so, That is just flat out awesome. __________________ Old Car:GTM TSC'd 550whp / 410lbft tq @ 11.88PSI New Car: Under Construction

10-28-2011, 03:23 AM	#14 (permalink)
SS_Firehawk Premium Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Tampa Posts: 4,142 Drives: 13' Magma Red Nismo Rep Power: 7335	So... totally unrelated, I spent the better part of an hour playing Need for Speed Shift II on my computer racing... you guessed it, a 370Z. I was trying to beat my previous best lap time on Nurburgring of 8:14 in a bone stock Z. After many furious attempts at generating a near perfect lap, I did an 8:08. I definitely do not have the stones to do some of the things I did to get that. __________________ Old Car:GTM TSC'd 550whp / 410lbft tq @ 11.88PSI New Car: Under Construction

10-29-2011, 01:47 AM	#15 (permalink)
SS_Firehawk Premium Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Tampa Posts: 4,142 Drives: 13' Magma Red Nismo Rep Power: 7335	Well I picked up PPE headers for a good deal and found an AE Performance oil cooler for a solid deal also. Next purchase is the Y pipe I did change gears a bit with the exhaust. I've been looking at the Tanabe Medallion Touring exhaust system as it is a few hundred cheaper than the 5zigen without compromising quality. I found it brand new for under $1200 + ship. I've heard video's but not in RL. I verified inner diameter sizes of both the Y pipe and mid pipe to make sure they were the same size. What do you guys think of the Tanabe exhaust? It's slim pickings compared to all the dual exhausts I see at fair prices. It seems all the exhausts that use a Y pipe cost a small fortune and made of titanium... __________________ Old Car:GTM TSC'd 550whp / 410lbft tq @ 11.88PSI New Car: Under Construction

10-14-2011, 07:38 AM	#2 (permalink)
VQStryker Track Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Texas Age: 36 Posts: 659 Drives: :( Rep Power: 15	CBE go from the cat all the way back to the muffler. the LTH go from headers to CBE, replacing the cat with a straight pipe that's connected to the header. so you will be getting LTH and 5zigen cbe

10-14-2011, 07:42 AM	#3 (permalink)
VQStryker Track Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Texas Age: 36 Posts: 659 Drives: :( Rep Power: 15	If you want the hfc then you can go with short headers (4-1) with hfc, resonated tp's, tp's, or motordyne ART pipes with the 5zigen cbe

10-14-2011, 10:24 AM	#6 (permalink)
daisuke149 My *** is famous! Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Alpharetta, GA Posts: 4,849 Drives: 2013 Boss 302 PW Rep Power: 31	No, Tony hasnt started a thread yet about the exhaust. just snippets of info in some of his other threads

10-14-2011, 10:28 AM	#8 (permalink)
daisuke149 My *** is famous! Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Alpharetta, GA Posts: 4,849 Drives: 2013 Boss 302 PW Rep Power: 31	what the OP put. doing his XYZ pipe with a cat and then finding somemthing that would mate to it. I'd just wait though. his exhaust is almost completed.