Full Stillen Bolt-On Setup - Videos!

MightyBobo · 05-09-2009, 11:43 PM

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Originally Posted by RCZ

Oh and you can all thank mightybobo for me not posting track videos up. :P

ZforMe · 06-11-2009, 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by RCZ

Brakes: The rotors got destroyed in three laps with some hard hard braking. They overheated, so did my fluid I think. I'm going to have to re-do the entire brake system with fluid, rotors and pads for the track. No more of this nonsense, it was dangerous to lose all braking. It felt like the car was on ice, just sliding as I applied the brakes and the pedal went through the floor. Then after it cooled a bit, I got most of my braking back.

3 Laps into session 1

Just the front rotors got destroyed? Do you think a Stoptech slotted rotor w/ better pads would be sufficient enough for you? Or do you believe a big brake kit is necessary?

RCZ · 05-09-2009, 05:33 PM

Pictures added up to the other post.

More pictures coming on this one.

RCZ · 05-09-2009, 05:47 PM

My Z and our other car today. 997 GT3 RS. They made friends and liked each other...hopefully we will have a nice litter of GT370RZ's soon.

Number 111 baby, they made me go back to the pits to put on a number (my normal club doesnt require one) so I picked the easiest number to tape I could think of...1 and 11 were taken.

And here are some I took when I got free time.

I didn't retouch these in any way yet. If anyone wants to fix one or two up I would appreciate it

Videos later.

wstar · 05-09-2009, 05:53 PM

111

Lazy bastard

CBRich · 05-09-2009, 07:45 PM

Really good info. Those rotors look completely shot.

ChrisSlicks · 05-09-2009, 09:28 PM

Did you get the ice mode with the ABS before the hard core fade started? The brakes really shouldn't give out that easy, just doesn't seem right. Soft metal makeup in the rotors?

RCZ · 05-09-2009, 09:46 PM

Yes I did, it seems almost like everything was fine until that ONE big stop where it did that. The brakes went after that. Very interesting.

westpak · 05-09-2009, 10:15 PM

great write up and review, sounds like you had a great time

SoCal 370Z · 05-10-2009, 01:05 AM

One of the journalist, and I have forgotten who was road testing it, ran into this problem. I believe the entire brake pads separated as well, but the rotors definitely went to hell.

Nice pics = rep point

ZYUL8R · 05-10-2009, 01:54 AM

I tracked my 350z quite a bit. I ran stock rotors, SS lines, ATE super blue fluid, and Hawk 9012 blue all the way around...AND it had the wimpy brakes...brakes were Excellent all day long...and they were usually 30 min sessions..I wouldn't advise the 9012 (though i think they discontiunued them) But i think the Hawk DTCs would be good.

Before any track day i changed the oil. Ran HP+ brakes on the street, so i swapped in the 9012 the day before the event, then bled the brakes system, then went out to bed the pads in. Every event i had no brake troubles.

On another note...i really like the sound of your car...geez. Im gunna go stillen all the way as well...but i want test pipes. I had that same hiss that you get on the de-revv on my 350z (equipped w/ headers, TP, CBE), some people thought it was a BOV it was so loud..LOL.

ChrisSlicks · 05-10-2009, 07:58 AM

I used ATE Super Blue and Hawk HP+ at the autocross and the problem was exactly the same. It seems to be that once the heat buildup reaches the calipers it goes to hell. Autocross isn't quite as punishing as track because you get 10 minutes of cool down between runs, but once the heat soaks in there it's all done. So much for the sport brakes, I'm beginning to think that the smaller floating caliper on the base model might work better than this sh!t.

ZYUL8R · 05-10-2009, 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by ChrisSlicks

I used ATE Super Blue and Hawk HP+ at the autocross and the problem was exactly the same. It seems to be that once the heat buildup reaches the calipers it goes to hell. Autocross isn't quite as punishing as track because you get 10 minutes of cool down between runs, but once the heat soaks in there it's all done. So much for the sport brakes, I'm beginning to think that the smaller floating caliper on the base model might work better than this sh!t.

Your right...once you fluid is hot you gotta have the SS lines...rubber lines are no good once temps get extreme.

RCZ · 05-10-2009, 10:30 AM

^lol no. Stock lines stretch, but not like that...

Im thinking its more along the lines of terrible rotors. I feel like the rotors suck so bad that they are causing the whole system to reach temperatures that none of it is designed to see. I used ATE Super Blue this time around too and I'm pretty sure I boiled the crap out of it in those instances. I think that after this point the rotors also get all scored and that makes things even worst.

NIZMOZ · 05-10-2009, 11:06 AM

Actually it has a little label on it that came with it that said do not attach to glass. Unless it's a different than the one my friend has, but they look identical.

05-09-2009, 05:47 PM	#4 (permalink)
RCZ A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Miami Posts: 6,403 Drives: '09 370Z Rep Power: 1119	My Z and our other car today. 997 GT3 RS. They made friends and liked each other...hopefully we will have a nice litter of GT370RZ's soon. Number 111 baby, they made me go back to the pits to put on a number (my normal club doesnt require one) so I picked the easiest number to tape I could think of...1 and 11 were taken. And here are some I took when I got free time. I didn't retouch these in any way yet. If anyone wants to fix one or two up I would appreciate it Videos later. 2sl0w likes this. Last edited by RCZ; 05-09-2009 at 06:02 PM.

05-09-2009, 05:53 PM	#5 (permalink)
wstar A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 4,024 Drives: too slow Rep Power: 3595	111 Lazy bastard __________________ 7AT Track Car! Journal thread / Car setup details

05-09-2009, 10:15 PM	#9 (permalink)
westpak Enthusiast Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Lake Worth, FL Posts: 405 Drives: 2003 350Z DB Rep Power: 17	great write up and review, sounds like you had a great time __________________ 03 350Z 587 RWHP - May 2009 Dsport Feature

05-10-2009, 01:05 AM	#10 (permalink)
SoCal 370Z A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: US of A Posts: 2,842 Drives: Answers Rep Power: 34	One of the journalist, and I have forgotten who was road testing it, ran into this problem. I believe the entire brake pads separated as well, but the rotors definitely went to hell. Nice pics = rep point __________________ ( Click to show/hide ) Why I NEVER say NO to the Panda Lou Fusz!!!

05-10-2009, 01:54 AM	#11 (permalink)
ZYUL8R Base Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Corpus Christi, tx Posts: 140 Drives: 09 370z T/S, 03 S2K Rep Power: 17	I tracked my 350z quite a bit. I ran stock rotors, SS lines, ATE super blue fluid, and Hawk 9012 blue all the way around...AND it had the wimpy brakes...brakes were Excellent all day long...and they were usually 30 min sessions..I wouldn't advise the 9012 (though i think they discontiunued them) But i think the Hawk DTCs would be good. Before any track day i changed the oil. Ran HP+ brakes on the street, so i swapped in the 9012 the day before the event, then bled the brakes system, then went out to bed the pads in. Every event i had no brake troubles. On another note...i really like the sound of your car...geez. Im gunna go stillen all the way as well...but i want test pipes. I had that same hiss that you get on the de-revv on my 350z (equipped w/ headers, TP, CBE), some people thought it was a BOV it was so loud..LOL. Last edited by ZYUL8R; 05-10-2009 at 01:58 AM.

05-09-2009, 05:33 PM	#3 (permalink)
RCZ A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Miami Posts: 6,403 Drives: '09 370Z Rep Power: 1119	Pictures added up to the other post. More pictures coming on this one.

05-09-2009, 07:45 PM	#6 (permalink)
CBRich A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: SC Posts: 2,464 Drives: 370Z Rep Power: 545	Really good info. Those rotors look completely shot.

05-09-2009, 09:28 PM	#7 (permalink)
ChrisSlicks A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: North East Posts: 6,203 Drives: 09 370Z Sport M6 Rep Power: 654	Did you get the ice mode with the ABS before the hard core fade started? The brakes really shouldn't give out that easy, just doesn't seem right. Soft metal makeup in the rotors?

05-09-2009, 09:46 PM	#8 (permalink)
RCZ A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Miami Posts: 6,403 Drives: '09 370Z Rep Power: 1119	Yes I did, it seems almost like everything was fine until that ONE big stop where it did that. The brakes went after that. Very interesting.

05-10-2009, 07:58 AM	#12 (permalink)
ChrisSlicks A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: North East Posts: 6,203 Drives: 09 370Z Sport M6 Rep Power: 654	I used ATE Super Blue and Hawk HP+ at the autocross and the problem was exactly the same. It seems to be that once the heat buildup reaches the calipers it goes to hell. Autocross isn't quite as punishing as track because you get 10 minutes of cool down between runs, but once the heat soaks in there it's all done. So much for the sport brakes, I'm beginning to think that the smaller floating caliper on the base model might work better than this sh!t.

05-10-2009, 10:30 AM	#14 (permalink)
RCZ A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Miami Posts: 6,403 Drives: '09 370Z Rep Power: 1119	^lol no. Stock lines stretch, but not like that... Im thinking its more along the lines of terrible rotors. I feel like the rotors suck so bad that they are causing the whole system to reach temperatures that none of it is designed to see. I used ATE Super Blue this time around too and I'm pretty sure I boiled the crap out of it in those instances. I think that after this point the rotors also get all scored and that makes things even worst.

05-10-2009, 11:06 AM	#15 (permalink)
NIZMOZ Track Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 634 Drives: 07 NISMO 350Z SA M6 Rep Power: 491	Actually it has a little label on it that came with it that said do not attach to glass. Unless it's a different than the one my friend has, but they look identical. __________________ SOLD: 2007 NISMO 350Z #0044 Silver Alloy New DD: 2010 Titan Pro4X CC Last edited by NIZMOZ; 05-10-2009 at 11:12 AM.

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