Stillen intake rattling problem?

lww · 05-11-2009, 01:19 AM

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Originally Posted by wstar

Well, when you cut the hole, you've got the tube sitting right there in your hand. If the tube doesn't fit in the hole, keep cutting. When it fits, you're done. It's pretty simple really, and works fine as it is.

Wouldn't the engine vibrations be an issue with the hole cut to fit tight enough to hold the intake? I would think it would rattle like crazy or, at some point, the contact would wear through the piping.

I guess you guys will have to let us know how it works out and if it causes any long term damage.

shumby · 05-11-2009, 01:34 AM

I know they rub on the inner wheel well on the G37. fix has been to place a piece a rubber inbetween.

axio · 05-11-2009, 01:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lww

Wouldn't the engine vibrations be an issue with the hole cut to fit tight enough to hold the intake? I would think it would rattle like crazy or, at some point, the contact would wear through the piping.

I guess you guys will have to let us know how it works out and if it causes any long term damage.

I think it's ok if it's tight. I would guess that the silicon couplings would be the point to absorb the movement if the intake tubing is held tight in the hole.

FuszNissan · 05-11-2009, 03:22 PM

Wow, that is horrible install. Ouch, hope someone got their labor money back. We just finished a gen 3 install and it's perfect, piping doesn't move at all. You just have to make sure the tube hole you cut is perfect. We used a circle saw drill bit to size it just right. Don't let this video stop you from purchasing, obviously someone didn't know what they were doing. Finding a good installer usually solves 99.9% of the problems with aftermarket products.

wstar · 05-11-2009, 03:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lww

Wouldn't the engine vibrations be an issue with the hole cut to fit tight enough to hold the intake? I would think it would rattle like crazy or, at some point, the contact would wear through the piping.

I guess you guys will have to let us know how it works out and if it causes any long term damage.

Mine's been fine so far. There were a couple of spots of concern, but not the holes themselves. More like little tabs of metal that come near the pipes elsewhere. I put little pieces of rubber in a couple place where I thought it might be necessary, but I'm kinda anal about these things anyways, and they probably weren't really needed.

smartbomb · 05-14-2009, 01:40 AM

I agree, if it rubs you just gotta loosten the clamps and fidlle with it a little, just like every single CAI ever made!

lww · 05-27-2009, 03:18 AM

Ok, after looking at a Gen3 installed with a "snug" fit, I still think a larger opening with a bracket is the way to go.

I'd prefer not to have it rub at the radiator support or flex at the relatively narrow silicon couplers. In my opinion, I would be reluctant to have metal to metal contact especially with everyone explaining that the hole needs to be cut "perfectly" for it to come out "right".

At that point, it's probably less time consuming for the shop to simply cut an oversize hole, fabricate a simple bracket and use an existing mounting point in the engine bay to bolt the brackets down. It will probably also minimize the possibility of scratching the chrome pipes while sliding them through the hole like what you might have with a "snug" fit, especially if you're making adjustments while you fit everything.

butters167 · 05-27-2009, 06:35 AM

The hole is cut in plastic. There is no metal to metal contact other than maybe the AC lines but you can just wrap them with piece of hose. Brackets would have been nice I agree but they are not really needed. Its really a pretty easy install don't let that video discourage you.

FuszNissan · 05-27-2009, 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by butters167

The hole is cut in plastic. There is no metal to metal contact other than maybe the AC lines but you can just wrap them with piece of hose. Brackets would have been nice I agree but they are not really needed. Its really a pretty easy install don't let that video discourage you.

+1

toasterflyer · 05-27-2009, 12:33 PM

An install definitely gone wrong..Simple solution for future self-installers..

Stillen could provide templates for the pipe. Course you could just make your own template..Pretty simple if you ask me.

Rich
ny

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Originally Posted by FuszNissan

Wow, that is horrible install. Ouch, hope someone got their labor money back. We just finished a gen 3 install and it's perfect, piping doesn't move at all. You just have to make sure the tube hole you cut is perfect. We used a circle saw drill bit to size it just right. Don't let this video stop you from purchasing, obviously someone didn't know what they were doing. Finding a good installer usually solves 99.9% of the problems with aftermarket products.

wstar · 05-27-2009, 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by toasterflyer

An install definitely gone wrong..Simple solution for future self-installers..

Stillen could provide templates for the pipe. Course you could just make your own template..Pretty simple if you ask me.

Rich
ny

It's really not that sort of thing. It's not like you're cutting a new hole. There's an existing hole that's slightly taller than we need, but not wide enough (it's basically a rectangular shape, with the longer part vertical). The amount you shave off to fit the pipe is just a small arc on one side of the rectangle, perhaps 3/8" depth at most, I didn't measure. You just take a dremel tool and shave a little from the side to get the pipe through. This really isn't rocket science, and doesn't need a template or a bracket

toasterflyer · 05-27-2009, 07:28 PM

Got ya..understood :-).. So "Easy does it"..when your carving the hole.

Rich
ny

Still undecided . 350(Nismo) or 370(prob. is dealers round me only have 1 stock wrong color and options for me)...

Quote:

Originally Posted by wstar

It's really not that sort of thing. It's not like you're cutting a new hole. There's an existing hole that's slightly taller than we need, but not wide enough (it's basically a rectangular shape, with the longer part vertical). The amount you shave off to fit the pipe is just a small arc on one side of the rectangle, perhaps 3/8" depth at most, I didn't measure. You just take a dremel tool and shave a little from the side to get the pipe through. This really isn't rocket science, and doesn't need a template or a bracket

semtex · 05-27-2009, 09:24 PM

LOL. I just noticed the tags on this thread.

Okay, who's the genius who tagged a thread on intakes with exhaust tags?

Crash · 05-30-2009, 06:43 AM

Interesting... I don't have any tools right now that I'd be able to cut anything at all, so should I just have a shop install them? I haven't purchased the car yet, (maybe by tomorrow though) so I don't know what it looks like. Is it something I could just use sand paper to open up a little?

butters167 · 05-30-2009, 09:17 AM

No sandpaper won't work, I would just go buy the cheapest rotary tool you can find and use it. You can get a basic rotary tool pretty cheap now.

05-11-2009, 01:34 AM	#17 (permalink)
shumby Captin Canuck Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: with your mom Age: 44 Posts: 6,288 Drives: your sister Rep Power: 236	I know they rub on the inner wheel well on the G37. fix has been to place a piece a rubber inbetween. __________________ Originally Posted by SAM@GTM Engine detonation is not normal and it should never never happen, and whoever told that need to do something else for living . Sam

05-11-2009, 03:22 PM	#19 (permalink)
FuszNissan A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2009 Location: St. Louis Posts: 14,275 Drives: Pure Sex Rep Power: 542	Wow, that is horrible install. Ouch, hope someone got their labor money back. We just finished a gen 3 install and it's perfect, piping doesn't move at all. You just have to make sure the tube hole you cut is perfect. We used a circle saw drill bit to size it just right. Don't let this video stop you from purchasing, obviously someone didn't know what they were doing. Finding a good installer usually solves 99.9% of the problems with aftermarket products. __________________ Mods: Too Many to list! LouFuszNissan ZDAYZ 2012

05-27-2009, 03:18 AM	#22 (permalink)
lww Base Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: SF Bay Posts: 69 Drives: '09 Red Sport 6MT+ Rep Power: 16	Ok, after looking at a Gen3 installed with a "snug" fit, I still think a larger opening with a bracket is the way to go. I'd prefer not to have it rub at the radiator support or flex at the relatively narrow silicon couplers. In my opinion, I would be reluctant to have metal to metal contact especially with everyone explaining that the hole needs to be cut "perfectly" for it to come out "right". At that point, it's probably less time consuming for the shop to simply cut an oversize hole, fabricate a simple bracket and use an existing mounting point in the engine bay to bolt the brackets down. It will probably also minimize the possibility of scratching the chrome pipes while sliding them through the hole like what you might have with a "snug" fit, especially if you're making adjustments while you fit everything. __________________ Must resist...

05-30-2009, 06:43 AM	#29 (permalink)
Crash A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 1,853 Drives: 02 Corvette Z06 Rep Power: 589	Interesting... I don't have any tools right now that I'd be able to cut anything at all, so should I just have a shop install them? I haven't purchased the car yet, (maybe by tomorrow though) so I don't know what it looks like. Is it something I could just use sand paper to open up a little? __________________ 2002 Corvette Z06 - Totaled 2003 Corvette Z06 50th Anniversary

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smartbomb Banned Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Cypress Ca Posts: 69 Drives: 300ZXTT, 350Z, 200SX Rep Power: 0	I agree, if it rubs you just gotta loosten the clamps and fidlle with it a little, just like every single CAI ever made!

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