Stillen catback in Ti?

imag

I was going to do that later, but it's a fair point. When paying almost $2K to drop 20 lbs., it makes way more sense to put it toward wheels, which offer improvements in overall, unsprung, and rotational mass...

The really cheap weight loss is the battery - the irony of the subwoofer is that it kind of take that option off the table as well...

wstar

To each his own, but I just don't find even the stock sub worth it in this car. Don't get me wrong, I love music, and I like to listen to some while I drive. But if I want a top-end audio experience, I've got that at home

I pulled my stock sub out and replaced it with nothing, and turned up the bass a little bit on the audio settings of the head unit. Sounds fine for driving music, even if it lacks a little bit of bass punch. It's not like a car with as much road noise as the Z is ever going to be a rolling concert stage anyways (at least not without adding a lot of weight and going against the nature of the car, imho).

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imag

I hate to say it, but the nature of this car is overweight (I almost said "fat pig", but that title belongs to the Camaro), 3300 lbs. is too much for a proper sports car - and it stems from the fact that under the Z has a sedan platform at heart.

I'm not trying to rip on the Z, but I am pointing out that the uber-weight-conscious wouldn't buy this car in the first place (it took some getting over for me). It's 200 lbs. more than a 'vette, 500 more than a S2000, and over 1200 more than an Elise. Considering the fact that this is basically a GT car, I don't think it's unreasonable to want decent sound, especially when, by the time I ditch the spare, my guess is that the sub is only about a 20 lb bump - if you've got the touring pack, your starting point was 50 lbs. over mine in the first place.

Sorry if I come across as grumpy, but I'm not even sure why I'm getting a hard time. Yes, I want to add some weight, but I'm trying to balance it out with weight savings on the other end. Realistically, its basically all psychological - I don't have a lap timer, and the car is no doubt faster on the track than I am at this point (which I can at least admit). But after all, isn't this whole board about what people want, for no real reason? I don't see God collecting lap times to find your spot in heaven/hell.

Final point - if I have bass in the car, I will get laid more. My wife loves bass. Even if I didn't, that would be reason enough for me...

wstar

I've driven fat pig cars before (the cousin of the aforementioned Camaro). The Z is plenty nimble even stock, imho.

The 'vette costs more and quite frankly I'm done with the big 3 US automakers anyways. The Elise is considerably more costly as well, and comes with a matching downgrade in horsepower to go with that downgrade in weight. The S2000 is a valid argument if modded to hell, but I just don't like the car really

I don't think it's bad to have decent sound in a car like this either or I'd be ripping the whole sound system out, we just have different definitions of reasonable sound. I like the touring seats, they're comfy We all make tradeoffs. As I prefixed my opinions earlier at the start of my post: "to each his own".

Nobody's trying to give you a hard time, we're just expressing dissenting opinions. On some philosophical level there may be no reason for anything here, or for the Z to exist. But there has to be some level of rationality to the modding process. To some of us, paying for a Ti exhaust on a car with added audio weight over what the stock system already has seems illogical from a $ to performance ratio perspective. On the other hand, for some people money is no issue to begin with anyways.

I've had the opposite experience. I pulled the sub out of my car and coincidentally got laid for the first time in a while mere days later

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Modshack

And you'll therefore get more exercise and maybe lose the 7lb additional weight the standard Stillen adds to the car?? Sounds like a wash to me!

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LiquidZ

The Stillen catback actually adds weight?

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