Originally Posted by phelan Yeah...this system looks like it might be even more rare than some JDM exhausts. Even my mind is blown spending $6k on a stainless steel exhaust.
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06-15-2011, 01:46 PM | #31 (permalink) | |
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06-15-2011, 02:18 PM | #32 (permalink) |
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Let's compare...FI LTH are what, $1200? Let's take a more expensive exhaust like an HKS which are around $2000. That's $3200. I'd say a fair price for a rare, Italian made exhaust coud be around $4000.
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06-15-2011, 03:23 PM | #37 (permalink) |
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Haha, it doesnt matter where its made or who makes it....its $6000. There is 0 way to justify a $4000 exhaust, much less a $6000 one. I understand people spend a lot of money on mods, but usually thats on a LOT of mods, not just an exhaust. Like some said, this might fly in the upscale market for cars worth $75k+, but it will NEVER work in a competitive market where the average price for an exhaust is about $1200-$1500. $2500 with long tube headers....
I'm not, and im sure no one else in here is, trying to put this down because super sprint makes some awesome exhausts, but whats the point of making something you're not going to sell... |
06-15-2011, 04:28 PM | #40 (permalink) |
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Ok, here a few facts:
The system is completely made in Italy. A LOT of JDM parts are made in Taiwan or China (HJS, Invidia, Tanabe etc) so they are cheap, and I have to be honest, (sometimes) they are well made, as the workers are very cheap they can afford to have more people, for example you can have a single worker that makes the same TIG welding on the same part all day long... They usually are too loud in full system form, and the headers are often nice looking but fragile. Anyway, the price of 6k is just an indication, based on the cost of similar system from Superprint, for example the GT3 system has step-design headers, HJS 200 CPSI cat and a rear exaust with black tips...it made 465 Hp on the mk2 3.8, that had 446 hp from standard, and that's on a higly strung NA engine, JUST with the exhaust...and it's around 7k. I have no idea whatsoever what this system could do on a SC car, as the headers are a lot bigger (we're talking 42mm for the first ~150 mm, 48 for the rest of the primary pipes, with soft variations between..how big are the F.I.?), and the cats are the best in the world! Another thing, how much is a new 370Z in the US? because here in Italy it's 41.000 Euros-->58,000 USD for the Coupè. Consider just this, the previous full system developed was for the Mercedes SLS AMG (that's a 190k Euros car!), and it was made with the same philosophy. I've seen the dyno charts: standard car 581 HP and 640 nm. Full Exhaust 603 HP and 700 nm..but that's not the full story as at 3800 rpm there was a 55 hp increase! Hamann is going to offer this system in his catalogue (Supersprint makes all the system for Hamann, Hartge, Carlsson, Lorinser, Geiger, Techart, AC Schnitzer etc...) Here you can watch all the recent cars, SLS included: YouTube - ‪Supersprintcom's Channel‬‏ |
06-15-2011, 04:36 PM | #41 (permalink) |
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Thanks for all the info! In the US the 370Z is around $30-40k new with some base models even in the upper $20k range. Hopefully this exhaust will be cheaper than $6k
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I really don't care if it is made from the blood of unicorns, it's an exhaust. Let's break down what that means: BENT PIPES WELDED TOGETHER WITH A MUFFLER. You can try to pretty that up all you want, but in the end, that is all that it is. It isn't going to make much (if any) power over an invidia or even a damn ebay exhaust. The only reason someone would buy this exhaust is to say they have it and make others feel poor. That might work for them in the euro car "the more i buy the bigger my penis gets" land, but I imagine among level headed people this concept is just stupid. Hell. even half the cost is still overpriced. You can have a local welder make you a Ti exhaust for under $3,000 (well at least I can), why would anyone pay more for less of a product is beyond me.
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gaveup,
some people here are spending $5k + on wheels.... many might find this over the top on a $30k car. and forged wheels are just a big piece of metal slamed into a different peice of metal, right? so, although i think its steep i can see some people buying this....
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Some will buy it just to brag that they have a super expensive Italian exhaust. I would much rather have an expensive Italian supercar/supermodel |
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