Berk CBE Help

b1adesofcha0s · 06-08-2011, 11:52 PM

Sounds like a plan

I like the old tips.

BOLIO 671 · 06-09-2011, 11:32 AM

Mee too..Like the old tips way better....I see where ur coming from though Berk Tech regarding the Nismo's....The original tips don't go well for the rear cut of the Nismo bumper...

Seems that in the OP's situation he had issues with the tips sticking out too much...I really didn't have any fitment issues with mine...Mine were well aligned and didn't need any adjustments...those that did were easily fixed with a simple washer or two to space it out..

I say stick to the original tips, but have the aejustable tips as an option for the Nismo folks and those out there that prefer the tips to stick out....The original set up sounds and looks sweet compared to other exhausts out there HANDS DOWN....IMO

onzedge · 06-09-2011, 11:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BerkTech

Hey guys,

We did in fact change the exhaust slightly from the original design based on customer feedback but it seems that many of you guys liked the original setup better. The reasons to go with a slip on tip were mainly to allow some adjustability in the tips. The slip fit allows you guys to position the tips precisely to match your bumper cutout and length. Some of you wanted the tips to stick out more to avoid collecting soot on the bumper. The slip fit allows you to pull them out so the tip is past the edge of the bumper and the clamp is small enough that you'll never see it unless you get down on your hands and knees.

On top of that more and more Nismo 370Z owners were wanting a different tip design that what we currently offer. The slip on tip allows us to mate virtually any tip to the exhaust and we can make custom tip options for you guy in house.

It would be a good idea to take a quick poll and see what you guys really prefer. Are you guys willing to work with us on this to see if we can nail down exactly what the majority want?

Cheers guys and thank you for your support!

+1 Rep for Berk for being responsive to our needs and concerns. BTW: I still love my Berk CBE.

b1adesofcha0s · 06-09-2011, 11:41 AM

I think it would be best to offer both as well. Just have each customer specify which one they want.

BrandonT · 06-09-2011, 12:20 PM

Good to see Berk on this issue so fast!! Personally I understand the reason for the adjustable tip, it is a good feature. Just make sure that fully slid in it can go back as far as stock, or flush at most.

b1adesofcha0s · 06-09-2011, 12:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BrandonT

Good to see Berk on this issue so fast!! Personally I understand the reason for the adjustable tip, it is a good feature. Just make sure that fully slid in it can go back as far as stock, or flush at most.

Yeah, that would be perfect.

Any significant weight difference on the old tips vs the adjustable tips? I doubt it, but just wondering.

BrandonT · 06-09-2011, 01:55 PM

So I just received my Berk exhaust and took a look. It looks like only the tips need to be trimmed. The tip can be slid about as far onto the pipe as you want, it's tight, but you could it. So I'm not really sure the pipe needs to be shortened? Not really sure what that would gain except not having it protrude into the tip? You can't really see it. OTOH the tip has the least tolerance to trimming. I would imagine you would want to leave some of the slits so the clamp can squeeze. But the slits are only 1" deep so I wouldn't be comfortable taking more than 1/2" off. You could make deeper slits but that is lot more work for the DIY'er and might get you another 1/2" at most.

I may have to get everything hung before I know how this will work out...

b1adesofcha0s · 06-09-2011, 03:32 PM

Cool, definitely take some pics when installed. See if you can get a shot with the tips all the way in to see how far they stick out past the bumper without any trimming.

40thThree7D · 06-09-2011, 09:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BOLIO 671

Mee too..Like the old tips way better....I see where ur coming from though Berk Tech regarding the Nismo's....The original tips don't go well for the rear cut of the Nismo bumper...

Seems that in the OP's situation he had issues with the tips sticking out too much...I really didn't have any fitment issues with mine...Mine were well aligned and didn't need any adjustments...those that did were easily fixed with a simple washer or two to space it out..

I say stick to the original tips, but have the aejustable tips as an option for the Nismo folks and those out there that prefer the tips to stick out....The original set up sounds and looks sweet compared to other exhausts out there HANDS DOWN....IMO

+1

Mandingo · 06-10-2011, 03:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BrandonT

So I just received my Berk exhaust and took a look. It looks like only the tips need to be trimmed. The tip can be slid about as far onto the pipe as you want, it's tight, but you could it. So I'm not really sure the pipe needs to be shortened? Not really sure what that would gain except not having it protrude into the tip? You can't really see it. OTOH the tip has the least tolerance to trimming. I would imagine you would want to leave some of the slits so the clamp can squeeze. But the slits are only 1" deep so I wouldn't be comfortable taking more than 1/2" off. You could make deeper slits but that is lot more work for the DIY'er and might get you another 1/2" at most.

I may have to get everything hung before I know how this will work out...

I don't think people were saying the pipe itself needed to be shortened but, the collar on the passenger side tip itself needs to lose about 3/4 inch. In my case I also cut those slits a bit longer to make up for the lost material on the collar.

If you simply jam the passenger side tip forward, the bend in the pipe causes the tip to angle to the right which looks unsightly.

Hopefully I'll have time tonight to get a couple pics of what I'm talking about.

@ b1adesofcha0s
I'm sure the adjustable tips are a tiny bit heavier with the clamps and the extra length of tubing involved but its minimal.

b1adesofcha0s · 06-10-2011, 03:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mandingo

I don't think people were saying the pipe itself needed to be shortened but, the collar on the passenger side tip itself needs to lose about 3/4 inch. In my case I also cut those slits a bit longer to make up for the lost material on the collar.

If you simply jam the passenger side tip forward, the bend in the pipe causes the tip to angle to the right which looks unsightly.

Hopefully I'll have time tonight to get a couple pics of what I'm talking about.

@ b1adesofcha0s
I'm sure the adjustable tips are a tiny bit heavier with the clamps and the extra length of tubing involved but its minimal.

That's what I figured.

BrandonT · 06-10-2011, 03:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mandingo

I don't think people were saying the pipe itself needed to be shortened but, the collar on the passenger side tip itself needs to lose about 3/4 inch. In my case I also cut those slits a bit longer to make up for the lost material on the collar.

If you simply jam the passenger side tip forward, the bend in the pipe causes the tip to angle to the right which looks unsightly.

Gotchu99 mentioned having the pipes cut at a muffler shop which confused me once I got to looking at them. He must have meant the tips. I'm going to cut the slots up to the weld on the problem side and take maybe 1" off the collar. Probably drill a hole where I want to end though so no stress cracks can start.

Mandingo · 06-10-2011, 06:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BrandonT

Gotchu99 mentioned having the pipes cut at a muffler shop which confused me once I got to looking at them. He must have meant the tips. I'm going to cut the slots up to the weld on the problem side and take maybe 1" off the collar. Probably drill a hole where I want to end though so no stress cracks can start.

Drilling holes for the slits isn't a bad idea.
Heres my passenger side pipe after all the work:

I left enough of the collar so the clamp would fit without overlapping the weld or hanging off the edge of the cut collar.

Its been like this for about 2k miles now and hasn't changed its position. As you noted, after cutting this much off the collar it is essential that you elongate the slits so the clamp can still do its job. Good luck!

onzedge · 06-10-2011, 07:12 PM

Mandingo, that looks like a nice fit. Good job. Have a free rep point on me.

b1adesofcha0s · 06-10-2011, 08:05 PM

Looks good Mandingo

06-08-2011, 11:52 PM	#46 (permalink)
b1adesofcha0s A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: MD Posts: 40,963 Drives: HypeTrain Choo Choo! Rep Power: 141	Sounds like a plan I like the old tips. __________________ Project: b1adeZmobile (2009 370Z) \| Uprev Tune by AAM Competition \| Berk Exhaust Project: b1adeZmobile 2.0 (2014 C7 Z51) \| Corsa Xtreme Exhaust

06-09-2011, 11:32 AM	#47 (permalink)
BOLIO 671 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: GUAHAN Posts: 1,198 Drives: To & From then Back Rep Power: 3399	Mee too..Like the old tips way better....I see where ur coming from though Berk Tech regarding the Nismo's....The original tips don't go well for the rear cut of the Nismo bumper... Seems that in the OP's situation he had issues with the tips sticking out too much...I really didn't have any fitment issues with mine...Mine were well aligned and didn't need any adjustments...those that did were easily fixed with a simple washer or two to space it out.. I say stick to the original tips, but have the aejustable tips as an option for the Nismo folks and those out there that prefer the tips to stick out....The original set up sounds and looks sweet compared to other exhausts out there HANDS DOWN....IMO __________________ 2013 Nismo Z34 / FI TT #091 / IG: @lilzilla_z34

06-09-2011, 11:41 AM	#49 (permalink)
b1adesofcha0s A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: MD Posts: 40,963 Drives: HypeTrain Choo Choo! Rep Power: 141	I think it would be best to offer both as well. Just have each customer specify which one they want. __________________ Project: b1adeZmobile (2009 370Z) \| Uprev Tune by AAM Competition \| Berk Exhaust Project: b1adeZmobile 2.0 (2014 C7 Z51) \| Corsa Xtreme Exhaust

06-09-2011, 03:32 PM	#53 (permalink)
b1adesofcha0s A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: MD Posts: 40,963 Drives: HypeTrain Choo Choo! Rep Power: 141	Cool, definitely take some pics when installed. See if you can get a shot with the tips all the way in to see how far they stick out past the bumper without any trimming. __________________ Project: b1adeZmobile (2009 370Z) \| Uprev Tune by AAM Competition \| Berk Exhaust Project: b1adeZmobile 2.0 (2014 C7 Z51) \| Corsa Xtreme Exhaust

06-10-2011, 07:12 PM	#59 (permalink)
onzedge A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Battle Lake MN Age: 64 Posts: 183,964 Drives: 370Z 240Z Rep Power: 2684736	Mandingo, that looks like a nice fit. Good job. Have a free rep point on me. __________________ Koni\|Swift\|Michelin\|Motordyne\|Berk\|RJM Performance\|Gates\|SPL\|Motul\|Technafit\|Ate Super Blue\|Hawk Tommy Kaira\|Momo\|Optima\|Hella\|Hotchkis\|Red Line\|ZSpeed\|Stillen\|B&M\|H&R

06-09-2011, 12:20 PM	#50 (permalink)
BrandonT Base Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Denver Posts: 169 Drives: 2009 370Z White Rep Power: 14	Good to see Berk on this issue so fast!! Personally I understand the reason for the adjustable tip, it is a good feature. Just make sure that fully slid in it can go back as far as stock, or flush at most.

06-09-2011, 01:55 PM	#52 (permalink)
BrandonT Base Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Denver Posts: 169 Drives: 2009 370Z White Rep Power: 14	So I just received my Berk exhaust and took a look. It looks like only the tips need to be trimmed. The tip can be slid about as far onto the pipe as you want, it's tight, but you could it. So I'm not really sure the pipe needs to be shortened? Not really sure what that would gain except not having it protrude into the tip? You can't really see it. OTOH the tip has the least tolerance to trimming. I would imagine you would want to leave some of the slits so the clamp can squeeze. But the slits are only 1" deep so I wouldn't be comfortable taking more than 1/2" off. You could make deeper slits but that is lot more work for the DIY'er and might get you another 1/2" at most. I may have to get everything hung before I know how this will work out...

06-10-2011, 08:05 PM	#60 (permalink)
b1adesofcha0s A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: MD Posts: 40,963 Drives: HypeTrain Choo Choo! Rep Power: 141	Looks good Mandingo __________________ Project: b1adeZmobile (2009 370Z) \| Uprev Tune by AAM Competition \| Berk Exhaust Project: b1adeZmobile 2.0 (2014 C7 Z51) \| Corsa Xtreme Exhaust

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