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Awesome, thanks for the feedback. I'll probably just go ahead and install it and trim everything to fit.
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Well this sucks, I was just about to order this exhaust from a vendor because I liked the stock look of the original...ahhh well!!
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Looks like I'll be able to sell my older version Berk CBE at a higher price now. :ugh2:
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Hey guys,
We did in fact change the exhaust slightly from the original design based on customer feedback but it seems that many of you guys liked the original setup better. The reasons to go with a slip on tip were mainly to allow some adjustability in the tips. The slip fit allows you guys to position the tips precisely to match your bumper cutout and length. Some of you wanted the tips to stick out more to avoid collecting soot on the bumper. The slip fit allows you to pull them out so the tip is past the edge of the bumper and the clamp is small enough that you'll never see it unless you get down on your hands and knees. On top of that more and more Nismo 370Z owners were wanting a different tip design that what we currently offer. The slip on tip allows us to mate virtually any tip to the exhaust and we can make custom tip options for you guy in house. It would be a good idea to take a quick poll and see what you guys really prefer. Are you guys willing to work with us on this to see if we can nail down exactly what the majority want? Cheers guys and thank you for your support! |
Sounds like a plan :tup:
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Mee too..Like the old tips way better....I see where ur coming from though Berk Tech regarding the Nismo's....The original tips don't go well for the rear cut of the Nismo bumper...
Seems that in the OP's situation he had issues with the tips sticking out too much...I really didn't have any fitment issues with mine...Mine were well aligned and didn't need any adjustments...those that did were easily fixed with a simple washer or two to space it out.. I say stick to the original tips, but have the aejustable tips as an option for the Nismo folks and those out there that prefer the tips to stick out....The original set up sounds and looks sweet compared to other exhausts out there HANDS DOWN....IMO |
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I think it would be best to offer both as well. Just have each customer specify which one they want.
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Good to see Berk on this issue so fast!! Personally I understand the reason for the adjustable tip, it is a good feature. Just make sure that fully slid in it can go back as far as stock, or flush at most.
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So I just received my Berk exhaust and took a look. It looks like only the tips need to be trimmed. The tip can be slid about as far onto the pipe as you want, it's tight, but you could it. So I'm not really sure the pipe needs to be shortened? Not really sure what that would gain except not having it protrude into the tip? You can't really see it. OTOH the tip has the least tolerance to trimming. I would imagine you would want to leave some of the slits so the clamp can squeeze. But the slits are only 1" deep so I wouldn't be comfortable taking more than 1/2" off. You could make deeper slits but that is lot more work for the DIY'er and might get you another 1/2" at most.
I may have to get everything hung before I know how this will work out... http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q...o/DSCN0405.jpg |
Cool, definitely take some pics when installed. See if you can get a shot with the tips all the way in to see how far they stick out past the bumper without any trimming. :tup:
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If you simply jam the passenger side tip forward, the bend in the pipe causes the tip to angle to the right which looks unsightly. Hopefully I'll have time tonight to get a couple pics of what I'm talking about. :tiphat: @ b1adesofcha0s I'm sure the adjustable tips are a tiny bit heavier with the clamps and the extra length of tubing involved but its minimal. |
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Heres my passenger side pipe after all the work: http://www.the370z.com/members/mandi...ersidepipe.jpg http://www.the370z.com/members/mandi...r-side-tip.jpg I left enough of the collar so the clamp would fit without overlapping the weld or hanging off the edge of the cut collar. Its been like this for about 2k miles now and hasn't changed its position. As you noted, after cutting this much off the collar it is essential that you elongate the slits so the clamp can still do its job. Good luck! :tup: |
Mandingo, that looks like a nice fit. Good job. Have a free rep point on me. :tup:
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Looks good Mandingo :tup:
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Just installed the exhaust. I trimmed the passenger side tip about 3/4", and made the slit longer:
http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q...t/DSCN0407.jpg Nothing a Dremel tool with cutting wheel and grinding stone couldn't handle. Pushed it pretty far back, it ended up about 1/8" behind flush. It helps to grind the inside weld so it slides easier, even then I had to use a mallet and rod and tap it back and forth to move it back. http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q...t/DSCN0408.jpg http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q...haust/1234.jpg http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q...haust/3456.jpg Now this is cold, it was about a 1/2" farther out when it was warm. So I'm not sure if I'll leave it there or push it back some more. I was starting to get to the curve of the pipe, so not sure how much more I could go without the tip getting cockeyed. Regarding fitment, this is my first exhaust install so I don't know what a normal tolerance is. But I thought it was mediocre. Flanges were somewhat off and one flex joint was tilted, although its flange aligned ok. The tips were not level and I had to lower the passenger side 1/4" to get them to look good. Overall not a big deal, everything was tweakable for even a novice. The sound is glorious :yum: |
Nice job! This was my first exhaust install too.
My driver side flex pipe was welded on a little crooked too but I was able to snug it down and it seems ok. My passenger side tip sat higher also. I just lowered it with washers to make them even at first. Eventually I decided I wanted both tips sitting higher inside the cutouts in the bumper but was too scared to bend the hangers on the exhaust itself so.. supporting the exhaust with a jack stand, I took the driver side bracket off and bent it up instead (I picked up a spare one at Courtesy just in case I effed it up too much:icon14:). These are very easy to replace and you don't have to jack the Z up to do it. http://www.the370z.com/members/mandi...eplaceable.jpg I actually just put the thing in a vice and tightened it down until I thought the bend at the end of the bracket had straightened out enough to raise the exhaust. It could still be higher but I'm done messing with this thing for now! http://www.the370z.com/members/mandi...ng-hangers.jpg |
Looks great man! :tup:
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I had a local shop do the install I have same problem and and left tip is not straight
Also tip position is not in the middle. it is tilted to right how do i fix this? |
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