Intake + Exhaust = what hp gains overall?

SS_Firehawk · 01-11-2013, 02:42 AM

primariy differences with HFC's are cell count (200 or 300 [lower cell = freer flowing]), if they are metallic or ceramic, and whether they are resonated or not.

DEpointfive0 · 01-11-2013, 03:21 AM

I just dyno'd 321/268
G3
Test pipes
Stillen exhaust

NO TUNE!!!

SS_Firehawk · 01-11-2013, 03:22 AM

What type of dyno?

DEpointfive0 · 01-11-2013, 03:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SS_Firehawk

What type of dyno?

Dynojet,
I'll email you the results

SS_Firehawk · 01-11-2013, 04:43 AM

Looking at the graphs, the TP's and exhaust are done in 5th. And when the intake is put on, it was in 4th. 5th cut out because it hit the speed limiter at 6700rpm and was still pulling! 4th gear ran up to red line, and did make the higher number. Everywhere in the curve though is showing the first run would have made more power than the second. But running in two different gears skews the results slightly. I think your second set of runs if done in 5th gear will paint a better picture, even if you can't take it up to redline.

Having said all of this, you either have a freak car or that dynojet is being generous! Both dynojets I ran have me down 11whp and 22lbft. Not that we can directly compare them, but my mods list was pretty extensive. Even if I swapped out my cat for a resonator, I might equal your TP's and exhaust number. Not only that, but your a 7AT. Either way, your numbers make good forum fodder.

If your near GTM, maybe run a pass or two there and then we could directly compare! Though admittedly, my car did not have time to acclimate to the elevation and weather change and only had one pass. GTM pulled it off the truck, and backed it into the dyno lol.

chrischhorn · 01-11-2013, 04:55 AM

This is my dyno from a few weeks back as I wanted a baseline for where I was at to where I'm gonna be after my Momentum headers install, intake manifold and a tune. This is on a 6sp. Run 3 was actually in 4th gear and 1,2, and 4 were 5th gear. My AFR's actually look amazing for no tune! Just a little rich at the end. Bolt ons are K&N intake, Stillen HFC's, CNT Exhaust. Havent been back yet as my test pipes are taking longer to get here then originally estimated..... They got shipped by boat instead of air....
New dyno's will be with Momentum headers, Top Speed resonated test pipes, and a pre and post tune. Then probably another one after my M370 manifold.

DEpointfive0 · 01-11-2013, 04:57 AM

BTW!!!
The reason I sent those were as a baseline with mods vs MY intake manifold

Glad you liked the dyno run, I'll get the print out of a stock run on the same dyno... Not MY car though

Quote:

Originally Posted by SS_Firehawk

Looking at the graphs, the TP's and exhaust are done in 5th. And when the intake is put on, it was in 4th. 5th cut out because it hit the speed limiter at 6700rpm and was still pulling! 4th gear ran up to red line, and did make the higher number. Everywhere in the curve though is showing the first run would have made more power than the second. But running in two different gears skews the results slightly. I think your second set of runs if done in 5th gear will paint a better picture, even if you can't take it up to redline.

Having said all of this, you either have a freak car or that dynojet is being generous! Both dynojets I ran have me down 11whp and 22lbft. Not that we can directly compare them, but my mods list was pretty extensive. Even if I swapped out my cat for a resonator, I might equal your TP's and exhaust number. Not only that, but your a 7AT. Either way, your numbers make good forum fodder.

If your near GTM, maybe run a pass or two there and then we could directly compare! Though admittedly, my car did not have time to acclimate to the elevation and weather change and only had one pass. GTM pulled it off the truck, and backed it into the dyno lol.

DEpointfive0 · 01-11-2013, 04:58 AM

And SS:

You pay for the dyno runs, I'll go run there!

DEpointfive0 · 01-11-2013, 05:21 AM

SS_Firehawk · 01-11-2013, 06:26 AM

Screw you all and your freak motors! Mine did 265whp (SAE Dynojet) 222 lbft tq stock. Don't get confused if you look at my dyno's in my thread, most are in DIN, I was converting it with Winpep.

DEpointfive0 · 01-11-2013, 06:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SS_Firehawk

Screw you all and your freak motors! Mine did 265whp (SAE Dynojet) 222 lbft tq stock. Don't get confused if you look at my dyno's in my thread, most are in DIN, I was converting it with Winpep.

I'm sorry

Gibby1113 · 01-12-2013, 08:36 PM

Is the nismo exhaust with stillen headers a good set up?

chrischhorn · 01-12-2013, 09:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gibby1113

Is the nismo exhaust with stillen headers a good set up?

stillen headers are garbage. basically just a shiny version of oem headers. Nismo or Nismo S-Tune exhaust? either way for a little more better could be had. If you arent doing the headers yourself, i would a) spend the money on a FI or PPE longtubes or momentum short headers or b) get test pipes and call it a day unless you have money to spend. Header install is probably 6-10 hours of install time depending on who does it so factor in about $100/hr of labor and it hurts. took me about 7 hours to install myself.

Gibby1113 · 01-13-2013, 02:48 AM

So what is the best hfc to get on a Z between berk and invidia?

chknhawk · 01-13-2013, 06:44 AM

I like my invidia pipes. I think the sound and work awesome. I think honestly pipes are pipes. I think the only thing that would make any kind of difference and no really on HP is the o2 bung. The matched up nicely and fit properly. That's pretty much all I wanted. I wish I had some headers and Looking and reading the single pipe versus one piece molded are more efficient .

01-11-2013, 02:42 AM	#31 (permalink)
SS_Firehawk Premium Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Tampa Posts: 4,142 Drives: 13' Magma Red Nismo Rep Power: 7335	primariy differences with HFC's are cell count (200 or 300 [lower cell = freer flowing]), if they are metallic or ceramic, and whether they are resonated or not. __________________ Old Car:GTM TSC'd 550whp / 410lbft tq @ 11.88PSI New Car: Under Construction

01-11-2013, 03:22 AM	#33 (permalink)
SS_Firehawk Premium Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Tampa Posts: 4,142 Drives: 13' Magma Red Nismo Rep Power: 7335	What type of dyno? __________________ Old Car:GTM TSC'd 550whp / 410lbft tq @ 11.88PSI New Car: Under Construction

01-11-2013, 04:43 AM	#35 (permalink)
SS_Firehawk Premium Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Tampa Posts: 4,142 Drives: 13' Magma Red Nismo Rep Power: 7335	Looking at the graphs, the TP's and exhaust are done in 5th. And when the intake is put on, it was in 4th. 5th cut out because it hit the speed limiter at 6700rpm and was still pulling! 4th gear ran up to red line, and did make the higher number. Everywhere in the curve though is showing the first run would have made more power than the second. But running in two different gears skews the results slightly. I think your second set of runs if done in 5th gear will paint a better picture, even if you can't take it up to redline. Having said all of this, you either have a freak car or that dynojet is being generous! Both dynojets I ran have me down 11whp and 22lbft. Not that we can directly compare them, but my mods list was pretty extensive. Even if I swapped out my cat for a resonator, I might equal your TP's and exhaust number. Not only that, but your a 7AT. Either way, your numbers make good forum fodder. If your near GTM, maybe run a pass or two there and then we could directly compare! Though admittedly, my car did not have time to acclimate to the elevation and weather change and only had one pass. GTM pulled it off the truck, and backed it into the dyno lol. __________________ Old Car:GTM TSC'd 550whp / 410lbft tq @ 11.88PSI New Car: Under Construction

01-11-2013, 04:55 AM	#36 (permalink)
chrischhorn A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Mililani, HI Posts: 1,566 Drives: 2014 Juke Nismo RS Rep Power: 16	This is my dyno from a few weeks back as I wanted a baseline for where I was at to where I'm gonna be after my Momentum headers install, intake manifold and a tune. This is on a 6sp. Run 3 was actually in 4th gear and 1,2, and 4 were 5th gear. My AFR's actually look amazing for no tune! Just a little rich at the end. Bolt ons are K&N intake, Stillen HFC's, CNT Exhaust. Havent been back yet as my test pipes are taking longer to get here then originally estimated..... They got shipped by boat instead of air.... New dyno's will be with Momentum headers, Top Speed resonated test pipes, and a pre and post tune. Then probably another one after my M370 manifold. DEpointfive0 likes this. __________________ R.I.P. 8/01/13 1SlowZ One day I'll have another.... Last edited by chrischhorn; 01-11-2013 at 04:58 AM.

01-11-2013, 06:26 AM	#40 (permalink)
SS_Firehawk Premium Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Tampa Posts: 4,142 Drives: 13' Magma Red Nismo Rep Power: 7335	Screw you all and your freak motors! Mine did 265whp (SAE Dynojet) 222 lbft tq stock. Don't get confused if you look at my dyno's in my thread, most are in DIN, I was converting it with Winpep. __________________ Old Car:GTM TSC'd 550whp / 410lbft tq @ 11.88PSI New Car: Under Construction

01-11-2013, 03:21 AM	#32 (permalink)
DEpointfive0 Premium Member Bitches Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: SoCal Posts: 14,824 Drives: a lot Rep Power: 17151	I just dyno'd 321/268 G3 Test pipes Stillen exhaust NO TUNE!!!

01-11-2013, 04:58 AM	#38 (permalink)
DEpointfive0 Premium Member Bitches Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: SoCal Posts: 14,824 Drives: a lot Rep Power: 17151	And SS: You pay for the dyno runs, I'll go run there!

01-11-2013, 05:21 AM	#39 (permalink)
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01-12-2013, 08:36 PM	#42 (permalink)
Gibby1113 Enthusiast Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: On open empty highways Posts: 366 Drives: 40th anniversary Rep Power: 13	Is the nismo exhaust with stillen headers a good set up? __________________ 40th anniversary #450/1000 \| Takeda Attack CAI \| Ark DTS exhaust \| to be continued...

01-13-2013, 02:48 AM	#44 (permalink)
Gibby1113 Enthusiast Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: On open empty highways Posts: 366 Drives: 40th anniversary Rep Power: 13	So what is the best hfc to get on a Z between berk and invidia? __________________ 40th anniversary #450/1000 \| Takeda Attack CAI \| Ark DTS exhaust \| to be continued...

01-13-2013, 06:44 AM	#45 (permalink)
chknhawk Track Member Join Date: May 2012 Location: Kentucky Posts: 541 Drives: Like a batouttahell! Rep Power: 14	I like my invidia pipes. I think the sound and work awesome. I think honestly pipes are pipes. I think the only thing that would make any kind of difference and no really on HP is the o2 bung. The matched up nicely and fit properly. That's pretty much all I wanted. I wish I had some headers and Looking and reading the single pipe versus one piece molded are more efficient . __________________ \| AEM \| INVIDIA \| GREDDY \| STANCE \| NISMO \| SETRAB \| STOPTECH \| HAWK \| TOYO \| HANKOOK \| BRIDE (wishlist) \|

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