Nissan 370Z Forum  

Intake + Exhaust = what hp gains overall?

primariy differences with HFC's are cell count (200 or 300 [lower cell = freer flowing]), if they are metallic or ceramic, and whether they are resonated or not.

Go Back   Nissan 370Z Forum > Nissan 370Z Tech Area > Engine & Drivetrain > Intake/Exhaust


Like Tree11Likes

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 01-11-2013, 02:42 AM   #31 (permalink)
Premium Member
 
SS_Firehawk's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Tampa
Posts: 4,142
Drives: 13' Magma Red Nismo
Rep Power: 7335
SS_Firehawk has a reputation beyond reputeSS_Firehawk has a reputation beyond reputeSS_Firehawk has a reputation beyond reputeSS_Firehawk has a reputation beyond reputeSS_Firehawk has a reputation beyond reputeSS_Firehawk has a reputation beyond reputeSS_Firehawk has a reputation beyond reputeSS_Firehawk has a reputation beyond reputeSS_Firehawk has a reputation beyond reputeSS_Firehawk has a reputation beyond reputeSS_Firehawk has a reputation beyond repute
Default

primariy differences with HFC's are cell count (200 or 300 [lower cell = freer flowing]), if they are metallic or ceramic, and whether they are resonated or not.
__________________
Old Car:GTM TSC'd 550whp / 410lbft tq @ 11.88PSI
New Car: Under Construction

SS_Firehawk is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-11-2013, 03:21 AM   #32 (permalink)
Premium Member Bitches
 
DEpointfive0's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: SoCal
Posts: 14,824
Drives: a lot
Rep Power: 17151
DEpointfive0 has a reputation beyond reputeDEpointfive0 has a reputation beyond reputeDEpointfive0 has a reputation beyond reputeDEpointfive0 has a reputation beyond reputeDEpointfive0 has a reputation beyond reputeDEpointfive0 has a reputation beyond reputeDEpointfive0 has a reputation beyond reputeDEpointfive0 has a reputation beyond reputeDEpointfive0 has a reputation beyond reputeDEpointfive0 has a reputation beyond reputeDEpointfive0 has a reputation beyond repute
Default

I just dyno'd 321/268
G3
Test pipes
Stillen exhaust

NO TUNE!!!
DEpointfive0 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-11-2013, 03:22 AM   #33 (permalink)
Premium Member
 
SS_Firehawk's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Tampa
Posts: 4,142
Drives: 13' Magma Red Nismo
Rep Power: 7335
SS_Firehawk has a reputation beyond reputeSS_Firehawk has a reputation beyond reputeSS_Firehawk has a reputation beyond reputeSS_Firehawk has a reputation beyond reputeSS_Firehawk has a reputation beyond reputeSS_Firehawk has a reputation beyond reputeSS_Firehawk has a reputation beyond reputeSS_Firehawk has a reputation beyond reputeSS_Firehawk has a reputation beyond reputeSS_Firehawk has a reputation beyond reputeSS_Firehawk has a reputation beyond repute
Default

What type of dyno?
__________________
Old Car:GTM TSC'd 550whp / 410lbft tq @ 11.88PSI
New Car: Under Construction

SS_Firehawk is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-11-2013, 03:25 AM   #34 (permalink)
Premium Member Bitches
 
DEpointfive0's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: SoCal
Posts: 14,824
Drives: a lot
Rep Power: 17151
DEpointfive0 has a reputation beyond reputeDEpointfive0 has a reputation beyond reputeDEpointfive0 has a reputation beyond reputeDEpointfive0 has a reputation beyond reputeDEpointfive0 has a reputation beyond reputeDEpointfive0 has a reputation beyond reputeDEpointfive0 has a reputation beyond reputeDEpointfive0 has a reputation beyond reputeDEpointfive0 has a reputation beyond reputeDEpointfive0 has a reputation beyond reputeDEpointfive0 has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by SS_Firehawk View Post
What type of dyno?
Dynojet,
I'll email you the results
DEpointfive0 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-11-2013, 04:43 AM   #35 (permalink)
Premium Member
 
SS_Firehawk's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Tampa
Posts: 4,142
Drives: 13' Magma Red Nismo
Rep Power: 7335
SS_Firehawk has a reputation beyond reputeSS_Firehawk has a reputation beyond reputeSS_Firehawk has a reputation beyond reputeSS_Firehawk has a reputation beyond reputeSS_Firehawk has a reputation beyond reputeSS_Firehawk has a reputation beyond reputeSS_Firehawk has a reputation beyond reputeSS_Firehawk has a reputation beyond reputeSS_Firehawk has a reputation beyond reputeSS_Firehawk has a reputation beyond reputeSS_Firehawk has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Looking at the graphs, the TP's and exhaust are done in 5th. And when the intake is put on, it was in 4th. 5th cut out because it hit the speed limiter at 6700rpm and was still pulling! 4th gear ran up to red line, and did make the higher number. Everywhere in the curve though is showing the first run would have made more power than the second. But running in two different gears skews the results slightly. I think your second set of runs if done in 5th gear will paint a better picture, even if you can't take it up to redline.

Having said all of this, you either have a freak car or that dynojet is being generous! Both dynojets I ran have me down 11whp and 22lbft. Not that we can directly compare them, but my mods list was pretty extensive. Even if I swapped out my cat for a resonator, I might equal your TP's and exhaust number. Not only that, but your a 7AT. Either way, your numbers make good forum fodder.

If your near GTM, maybe run a pass or two there and then we could directly compare! Though admittedly, my car did not have time to acclimate to the elevation and weather change and only had one pass. GTM pulled it off the truck, and backed it into the dyno lol.
__________________
Old Car:GTM TSC'd 550whp / 410lbft tq @ 11.88PSI
New Car: Under Construction

SS_Firehawk is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-11-2013, 04:55 AM   #36 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Mililani, HI
Posts: 1,566
Drives: 2014 Juke Nismo RS
Rep Power: 16
chrischhorn is a splendid one to beholdchrischhorn is a splendid one to beholdchrischhorn is a splendid one to beholdchrischhorn is a splendid one to beholdchrischhorn is a splendid one to beholdchrischhorn is a splendid one to behold
Default

This is my dyno from a few weeks back as I wanted a baseline for where I was at to where I'm gonna be after my Momentum headers install, intake manifold and a tune. This is on a 6sp. Run 3 was actually in 4th gear and 1,2, and 4 were 5th gear. My AFR's actually look amazing for no tune! Just a little rich at the end. Bolt ons are K&N intake, Stillen HFC's, CNT Exhaust. Havent been back yet as my test pipes are taking longer to get here then originally estimated..... They got shipped by boat instead of air....
New dyno's will be with Momentum headers, Top Speed resonated test pipes, and a pre and post tune. Then probably another one after my M370 manifold.
DEpointfive0 likes this.
__________________

R.I.P. 8/01/13 1SlowZ
One day I'll have another....

Last edited by chrischhorn; 01-11-2013 at 04:58 AM.
chrischhorn is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-11-2013, 04:57 AM   #37 (permalink)
Premium Member Bitches
 
DEpointfive0's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: SoCal
Posts: 14,824
Drives: a lot
Rep Power: 17151
DEpointfive0 has a reputation beyond reputeDEpointfive0 has a reputation beyond reputeDEpointfive0 has a reputation beyond reputeDEpointfive0 has a reputation beyond reputeDEpointfive0 has a reputation beyond reputeDEpointfive0 has a reputation beyond reputeDEpointfive0 has a reputation beyond reputeDEpointfive0 has a reputation beyond reputeDEpointfive0 has a reputation beyond reputeDEpointfive0 has a reputation beyond reputeDEpointfive0 has a reputation beyond repute
Default

BTW!!!
The reason I sent those were as a baseline with mods vs MY intake manifold

Glad you liked the dyno run, I'll get the print out of a stock run on the same dyno... Not MY car though
Quote:
Originally Posted by SS_Firehawk View Post
Looking at the graphs, the TP's and exhaust are done in 5th. And when the intake is put on, it was in 4th. 5th cut out because it hit the speed limiter at 6700rpm and was still pulling! 4th gear ran up to red line, and did make the higher number. Everywhere in the curve though is showing the first run would have made more power than the second. But running in two different gears skews the results slightly. I think your second set of runs if done in 5th gear will paint a better picture, even if you can't take it up to redline.

Having said all of this, you either have a freak car or that dynojet is being generous! Both dynojets I ran have me down 11whp and 22lbft. Not that we can directly compare them, but my mods list was pretty extensive. Even if I swapped out my cat for a resonator, I might equal your TP's and exhaust number. Not only that, but your a 7AT. Either way, your numbers make good forum fodder.

If your near GTM, maybe run a pass or two there and then we could directly compare! Though admittedly, my car did not have time to acclimate to the elevation and weather change and only had one pass. GTM pulled it off the truck, and backed it into the dyno lol.
DEpointfive0 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-11-2013, 04:58 AM   #38 (permalink)
Premium Member Bitches
 
DEpointfive0's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: SoCal
Posts: 14,824
Drives: a lot
Rep Power: 17151
DEpointfive0 has a reputation beyond reputeDEpointfive0 has a reputation beyond reputeDEpointfive0 has a reputation beyond reputeDEpointfive0 has a reputation beyond reputeDEpointfive0 has a reputation beyond reputeDEpointfive0 has a reputation beyond reputeDEpointfive0 has a reputation beyond reputeDEpointfive0 has a reputation beyond reputeDEpointfive0 has a reputation beyond reputeDEpointfive0 has a reputation beyond reputeDEpointfive0 has a reputation beyond repute
Default

And SS:

You pay for the dyno runs, I'll go run there!
DEpointfive0 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-11-2013, 05:21 AM   #39 (permalink)
Premium Member Bitches
 
DEpointfive0's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: SoCal
Posts: 14,824
Drives: a lot
Rep Power: 17151
DEpointfive0 has a reputation beyond reputeDEpointfive0 has a reputation beyond reputeDEpointfive0 has a reputation beyond reputeDEpointfive0 has a reputation beyond reputeDEpointfive0 has a reputation beyond reputeDEpointfive0 has a reputation beyond reputeDEpointfive0 has a reputation beyond reputeDEpointfive0 has a reputation beyond reputeDEpointfive0 has a reputation beyond reputeDEpointfive0 has a reputation beyond reputeDEpointfive0 has a reputation beyond repute
Default

DEpointfive0 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-11-2013, 06:26 AM   #40 (permalink)
Premium Member
 
SS_Firehawk's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Tampa
Posts: 4,142
Drives: 13' Magma Red Nismo
Rep Power: 7335
SS_Firehawk has a reputation beyond reputeSS_Firehawk has a reputation beyond reputeSS_Firehawk has a reputation beyond reputeSS_Firehawk has a reputation beyond reputeSS_Firehawk has a reputation beyond reputeSS_Firehawk has a reputation beyond reputeSS_Firehawk has a reputation beyond reputeSS_Firehawk has a reputation beyond reputeSS_Firehawk has a reputation beyond reputeSS_Firehawk has a reputation beyond reputeSS_Firehawk has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Screw you all and your freak motors! Mine did 265whp (SAE Dynojet) 222 lbft tq stock. Don't get confused if you look at my dyno's in my thread, most are in DIN, I was converting it with Winpep.
__________________
Old Car:GTM TSC'd 550whp / 410lbft tq @ 11.88PSI
New Car: Under Construction

SS_Firehawk is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-11-2013, 06:32 AM   #41 (permalink)
Premium Member Bitches
 
DEpointfive0's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: SoCal
Posts: 14,824
Drives: a lot
Rep Power: 17151
DEpointfive0 has a reputation beyond reputeDEpointfive0 has a reputation beyond reputeDEpointfive0 has a reputation beyond reputeDEpointfive0 has a reputation beyond reputeDEpointfive0 has a reputation beyond reputeDEpointfive0 has a reputation beyond reputeDEpointfive0 has a reputation beyond reputeDEpointfive0 has a reputation beyond reputeDEpointfive0 has a reputation beyond reputeDEpointfive0 has a reputation beyond reputeDEpointfive0 has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by SS_Firehawk View Post
Screw you all and your freak motors! Mine did 265whp (SAE Dynojet) 222 lbft tq stock. Don't get confused if you look at my dyno's in my thread, most are in DIN, I was converting it with Winpep.



I'm sorry
DEpointfive0 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-12-2013, 08:36 PM   #42 (permalink)
Enthusiast Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: On open empty highways
Posts: 366
Drives: 40th anniversary
Rep Power: 12
Gibby1113 is on a distinguished road
Default

Is the nismo exhaust with stillen headers a good set up?
__________________
40th anniversary #450/1000 | Takeda Attack CAI | Ark DTS exhaust | to be continued...
Gibby1113 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-12-2013, 09:13 PM   #43 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Mililani, HI
Posts: 1,566
Drives: 2014 Juke Nismo RS
Rep Power: 16
chrischhorn is a splendid one to beholdchrischhorn is a splendid one to beholdchrischhorn is a splendid one to beholdchrischhorn is a splendid one to beholdchrischhorn is a splendid one to beholdchrischhorn is a splendid one to behold
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Gibby1113 View Post
Is the nismo exhaust with stillen headers a good set up?
stillen headers are garbage. basically just a shiny version of oem headers. Nismo or Nismo S-Tune exhaust? either way for a little more better could be had. If you arent doing the headers yourself, i would a) spend the money on a FI or PPE longtubes or momentum short headers or b) get test pipes and call it a day unless you have money to spend. Header install is probably 6-10 hours of install time depending on who does it so factor in about $100/hr of labor and it hurts. took me about 7 hours to install myself.
__________________

R.I.P. 8/01/13 1SlowZ
One day I'll have another....
chrischhorn is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-13-2013, 02:48 AM   #44 (permalink)
Enthusiast Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: On open empty highways
Posts: 366
Drives: 40th anniversary
Rep Power: 12
Gibby1113 is on a distinguished road
Default

So what is the best hfc to get on a Z between berk and invidia?
__________________
40th anniversary #450/1000 | Takeda Attack CAI | Ark DTS exhaust | to be continued...
Gibby1113 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-13-2013, 06:44 AM   #45 (permalink)
Track Member
 
chknhawk's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2012
Location: Kentucky
Posts: 541
Drives: Like a batouttahell!
Rep Power: 14
chknhawk will become famous soon enough
Send a message via Skype™ to chknhawk
Default

I like my invidia pipes. I think the sound and work awesome. I think honestly pipes are pipes. I think the only thing that would make any kind of difference and no really on HP is the o2 bung. The matched up nicely and fit properly. That's pretty much all I wanted. I wish I had some headers and Looking and reading the single pipe versus one piece molded are more efficient .
__________________
| AEM | INVIDIA | GREDDY | STANCE | NISMO | SETRAB | STOPTECH | HAWK | TOYO | HANKOOK | BRIDE (wishlist) |
chknhawk is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Nismo Intake / Exhaust Fishy Intake/Exhaust 8 02-14-2011 06:33 PM
Which exhaust company makes the most RWH gains for the 370z?? antfd3s Intake/Exhaust 20 01-08-2011 12:06 PM
WTB: Intake and/or Exhaust menzzer37 Exhaust/Intake 2 07-29-2010 08:11 AM
WTB: Intake and/or Exhaust menzzer37 Parts for sale (Private Classifieds) 0 07-29-2010 08:09 AM
WTB exhaust, intake, MBLAQ Australia/New Zealand 8 07-19-2010 03:48 AM


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 11:36 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0 PL2