bleh, i know we need to lose weight off our nose but $2200+ to shave maybe 10lbs off the headers.... meh lol.

Meh, my longtubes weighed like 12 pounds together.

You aren't saving much by going titanium.

True, just looked about both my boxes. My test pipes shipped at 11lbs and my headers box shows 19 lbs with gaskets, boxes and he had something else shipped in the box too so yeah....definitely not worth it.

I should rephrase that as "If I had $hit tons of cash burning in my pocket, titanium long tube header's can justify a $2200+ price, not welded up short steel headers."

lol now i understand:roflpuke2:

When i bought my Z i already had Stillen G3 intakes, Stillen headers, and Stillen exhaust. I changed out the exhaust with ARK Grip TD's and ARK R-Spec TP's because the exhaust sounded crappy. From what im reading, the Stillen headers arent that great. Would it pay to change them out for a better designed pair of headers? Would the difference in power be significant enough to justify replacing them?

Whats your power to cost ratio? Cause long tubes are really the only way to go or wait until Z1 releases their Momentum replicas and see how they test. Cost unknown on the Z1 replicas as of yet but the long tube PPE or FI headers are 1k+ without install.. You'll gain maybe 5-10whp depending on your tuner. So...up to you.

Well i would go with long tubes but i have the ARK test pipes which were pretty costly. :/ so id probably lose a good deal of money going that route. Then again, i could sell the stillen headers and the ARK R Spec test pipes and probably come out ahead since i didnt have to buy the headers. I just dont want mt exhaust to be obnoxious, ya know?

What are the gains of the FI long tube headers versus FI resonated test pipes or HFCs? What is the cost difference part for part?(understanding of course that the LTHs have a bigger cost of install)

They're all listed in the F.I. LTH's thread. :tiphat:

Ordered Top Speed STH, will post review soon. :tup:

Having momentum headers shipped to me, can't wait!

:tup:

My PPE's in Ceramic black coating look BOSS... with a flashlight under the car. Can't see much from the top lol.

What about Z1 brand

Z1 Motorsports VQ Performance Headers

also are the HFC worth adding on (before seeing these I liked the Berks HFCs)