Nismo Cat Back

bigZ · 03-09-2011, 03:55 PM

How come there is not much speak about the NIsmo catback? Is it total crap for the $1800? Its endorsed by Nissan.

Please dont say search the Forum for your answer. That is just lame.....................

kenchan · 03-09-2011, 04:28 PM

forum search you will.

Cell · 03-09-2011, 04:48 PM

No point getting a nismo exhaust. The nismo exhaust is still pretty restricted compared to what is out there. Just go for the HKS Hi-Power for 1800.

Vegitto-kun · 03-09-2011, 05:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigZ

How come there is not much speak about the NIsmo catback? Is it total crap for the $1800? Its endorsed by Nissan.

Please dont say search the Forum for your answer. That is just lame.....................

because it is a utterly pointless, overpriced product.

seriously there are so many better exhausts that have better results/sound.

it is nissan endorsed so it is expensive. everything you buy from nissan is expensive.

even bolts.

Jordo! · 03-09-2011, 06:22 PM

S-tune or OEM?

Getting one used would be a decent upgrade over the regular OEM exhaust. $1800 is too much -- aim for less than half that for a good deal.

BalanBro · 03-09-2011, 10:28 PM

I doubt it's all that bad, and I bet it's even within 1 or 2 hp of other products. Nothing about it looked like a bad design, although folks say it's a bit quiet. Probably goes well with HFC's. People just buy other exhausts because they are cheaper or give a particular "look" (basically why I bought mine).

Also from what I understand, true duals v. H-pipe v. X-pipe shouldn't make any real difference in performance since the VQ is an even firing engine. It's more for tuning sound than anything else.

FL 4Motion · 03-09-2011, 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by BalanBro

I doubt it's all that bad, and I bet it's even within 1 or 2 hp of other products. Nothing about it looked like a bad design, although folks say it's a bit quiet. Probably goes well with HFC's. People just buy other exhausts they are cheaper or give a particular "look" (basically why I bought mine).

Also from what I understand, true duals v. H-pipe v. X-pipe shouldn't make any real difference in performance since the VQ is an even firing engine. It's more for tuning sound than anything else.

OEM Nismo Z nismo exhaust is an H pipe design and is pretty decent but I think that the nismo exhaust you buy from nissan (s tune) is still a y pipe so it could def be better imo.

6spd · 03-10-2011, 12:09 AM

i dont know what all the hating is about, but Ive been down the FI road and the nismo s-tune road and have to say I prefer the s-tune any day. price could be iffy unless you get it used like jordo or at a hell of a deal new like i did. It sounds great, looks great, frees up so much top end resistance and maintains the low end back pressure that makes daily driving much smoother. It fit my purpose and that about it, may not fit yours though.

GZ3 · 03-10-2011, 12:22 AM

is the OEM nismo muffler better flowing than non nismo oem? i'm guessing it has to be right??

6spd · 03-10-2011, 12:27 AM

yeah, but not as free flowing as other aftermarket mufflers. But don't forget that too free of a flow has a negative effect on back pressure that cant be fixed without a tune. Compared to when I had the FI, i can appreciate the amount of back pressure the nismo maintains whereas the FI made the low RPM's suffer from a slight bog.

...but anything in the world is better than stock!

GZ3 · 03-10-2011, 12:47 AM

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Originally Posted by 6spd

...but anything in the world is better than stock!

true!! haha

Rooskey · 03-10-2011, 03:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 6spd

yeah, but not as free flowing as other aftermarket mufflers. But don't forget that too free of a flow has a negative effect on back pressure that cant be fixed without a tune. Compared to when I had the FI, i can appreciate the amount of back pressure the nismo maintains whereas the FI made the low RPM's suffer from a slight bog.

...but anything in the world is better than stock!

As the reason why I kept my stock nismo exhaust along with my long tube headers.

6spd · 03-10-2011, 07:16 AM

got a sound clip?

Jessobear · 03-10-2011, 08:24 AM

There is no compelling evidence that any of the aftermarket exhausts out there give you much more than a few HP over the Nismo. In other words, if you had a car with intake, exhaust and tuning, you most likely will only see a few hp from one of the louder aftermarket exhausts.

It really boils down to whether or not you like the sound of the 370Z uncorked. The only aftermarket exhaust I've heard is the GReddy Ti-C (without the silencers) on stock cats and I thought it sounded terrible and ricey. This was when I was buying my OEM Nismo, which I paid $450 for from the guy who put the Ti-C on his car.

The OEM Nismo is barely louder than stock, at least from inside the car. I later added Fast Intentions resonated HFC's and the sound level barely increased. Not too sure what the car sounds like from outside, although from inside my underground parking garage, it is definitely noticeably deeper and louder when I start the car up. Were I to do it again, I'd probably go for resonated test pipes (resonator gets rid of a bad exhaust rasp at ~2700 rpm, right where you cruise a lot).

Bang for the buck, you absolutely can't go wrong with a take-off OEM Nismo. Add the resonated test pipes and a Stillen Gen 3 intake and you'd probably have a really nice sound under throttle. The nice thing about getting your sound from an intake is that it only makes a bunch of noise at WOT, so the car is still very quiet for cruising.

bigZ · 03-10-2011, 09:40 AM

That is sound advice. ha!

thanks a bunch.

03-09-2011, 03:55 PM	#1 (permalink)
bigZ Base Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Austin TX Posts: 76 Drives: 2010 370z Rep Power: 14	Nismo Cat Back How come there is not much speak about the NIsmo catback? Is it total crap for the $1800? Its endorsed by Nissan. Please dont say search the Forum for your answer. That is just lame.....................

03-09-2011, 06:22 PM	#5 (permalink)
Jordo! A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2010 Location: nirvana Posts: 6,394 Drives: 2023 NATM Rep Power: 418	S-tune or OEM? Getting one used would be a decent upgrade over the regular OEM exhaust. $1800 is too much -- aim for less than half that for a good deal. __________________ Enjoy it. Destroy it.

03-09-2011, 10:28 PM	#6 (permalink)
BalanBro Enthusiast Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: NJ Posts: 318 Drives: 40th Anniv. 370Z Rep Power: 1111	I doubt it's all that bad, and I bet it's even within 1 or 2 hp of other products. Nothing about it looked like a bad design, although folks say it's a bit quiet. Probably goes well with HFC's. People just buy other exhausts because they are cheaper or give a particular "look" (basically why I bought mine). Also from what I understand, true duals v. H-pipe v. X-pipe shouldn't make any real difference in performance since the VQ is an even firing engine. It's more for tuning sound than anything else. __________________ 2012 Mercedes C63 AMG P31 Sedan, ROW, aFe, Eurocharged Dyno Tune. 438WHP/415WTQ 2010 SOLD: 40th Anniversary 370z Last edited by BalanBro; 03-13-2011 at 05:56 PM.

03-10-2011, 12:09 AM	#8 (permalink)
6spd A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: South Florida Posts: 3,001 Drives: Q50RS Rep Power: 25	i dont know what all the hating is about, but Ive been down the FI road and the nismo s-tune road and have to say I prefer the s-tune any day. price could be iffy unless you get it used like jordo or at a hell of a deal new like i did. It sounds great, looks great, frees up so much top end resistance and maintains the low end back pressure that makes daily driving much smoother. It fit my purpose and that about it, may not fit yours though. __________________ -Jay- jonathanjamesphotographer.com

03-10-2011, 12:22 AM	#9 (permalink)
GZ3 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: SATX Posts: 3,296 Drives: Z Rep Power: 21	is the OEM nismo muffler better flowing than non nismo oem? i'm guessing it has to be right?? __________________ 09 GT-R 12' 370Z 7AT HANDED DOWN 12'+13' 5.0 SOLD

03-09-2011, 04:28 PM	#2 (permalink)
kenchan A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: N/A Posts: 76,801 Drives: N/A Rep Power: 141521	forum search you will.

03-09-2011, 04:48 PM	#3 (permalink)
Cell A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Chicago Posts: 1,449 Drives: A Garbage Truck Rep Power: 21	No point getting a nismo exhaust. The nismo exhaust is still pretty restricted compared to what is out there. Just go for the HKS Hi-Power for 1800.

03-10-2011, 12:27 AM	#10 (permalink)
6spd A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: South Florida Posts: 3,001 Drives: Q50RS Rep Power: 25	yeah, but not as free flowing as other aftermarket mufflers. But don't forget that too free of a flow has a negative effect on back pressure that cant be fixed without a tune. Compared to when I had the FI, i can appreciate the amount of back pressure the nismo maintains whereas the FI made the low RPM's suffer from a slight bog. ...but anything in the world is better than stock! __________________ -Jay- jonathanjamesphotographer.com

03-10-2011, 07:16 AM	#13 (permalink)
6spd A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: South Florida Posts: 3,001 Drives: Q50RS Rep Power: 25	got a sound clip? __________________ -Jay- jonathanjamesphotographer.com

03-10-2011, 08:24 AM	#14 (permalink)
Jessobear Base Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Washington, DC Posts: 201 Drives: '10 370Z Tour/Sp M6 Rep Power: 15	There is no compelling evidence that any of the aftermarket exhausts out there give you much more than a few HP over the Nismo. In other words, if you had a car with intake, exhaust and tuning, you most likely will only see a few hp from one of the louder aftermarket exhausts. It really boils down to whether or not you like the sound of the 370Z uncorked. The only aftermarket exhaust I've heard is the GReddy Ti-C (without the silencers) on stock cats and I thought it sounded terrible and ricey. This was when I was buying my OEM Nismo, which I paid $450 for from the guy who put the Ti-C on his car. The OEM Nismo is barely louder than stock, at least from inside the car. I later added Fast Intentions resonated HFC's and the sound level barely increased. Not too sure what the car sounds like from outside, although from inside my underground parking garage, it is definitely noticeably deeper and louder when I start the car up. Were I to do it again, I'd probably go for resonated test pipes (resonator gets rid of a bad exhaust rasp at ~2700 rpm, right where you cruise a lot). Bang for the buck, you absolutely can't go wrong with a take-off OEM Nismo. Add the resonated test pipes and a Stillen Gen 3 intake and you'd probably have a really nice sound under throttle. The nice thing about getting your sound from an intake is that it only makes a bunch of noise at WOT, so the car is still very quiet for cruising. Last edited by Jessobear; 03-10-2011 at 08:26 AM.

03-10-2011, 09:40 AM	#15 (permalink)
bigZ Base Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Austin TX Posts: 76 Drives: 2010 370z Rep Power: 14	That is sound advice. ha! thanks a bunch.

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