Gruppe M Super Cleaner....

Andy124 · 03-04-2011, 01:47 PM

Hey guys,I just check it out a air filter brand named Gruppe M and it designs a air filter name Super Cleaner...Any opinion or comment about this air filter?HKS drop in air filter better or this???comments will be appreciate...thanks

efuseakay · 03-06-2011, 11:38 AM

Never heard of that one. Don't bother with the HKS drop-ins... foam = yikes!

6spd · 03-06-2011, 03:27 PM

gruppe-m, huh, k-ching, k-ching!! they've been around a long time and make great products, just costs a sh1t ton for them.

Jordo! · 03-06-2011, 03:34 PM

They don't make one for the Z34 that I can see and the gains look comparable to every other intake including K&N drop ins plus HPS tubes.

Nice piece, but if they make one for us eventually, pass -- too much money.

Agree on foam filters -- they flow well, but offer poor filtration and in theory, if they degrade, you could suck in some of the element.

Andy124 · 03-07-2011, 04:15 AM

this is what i got on the website and our country seem famous with this air filter.Here is the link about Z34 Gruppe M Super cleaner.

??????????? GruppeM Inc. - ??????

Btw,HKS Air Suction Reloaded will be noisy and gain more HP if compare to K&N Typhoon or others drop in?

Jordo! · 03-07-2011, 04:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Andy124

this is what i got on the website and our country seem famous with this air filter.Here is the link about Z34 Gruppe M Super cleaner.

??????????? GruppeM Inc. - ??????

Btw,HKS Air Suction Reloaded will be noisy and gain more HP if compare to K&N Typhoon or others drop in?

If it had ductwork that sealed to the OEM cool air ducts in the bumper instead of being open like that, it might be worth it, but based on that design, I predict it would about break even at best with OEM airbox plus high flow panel filters and smooth intake tubes or perhaps G3 intakes that route the filters in front of the radiator.

Probably sounds cool tho'.

Andy124 · 03-07-2011, 04:57 AM

Sounds cool but have to get other parts to combine together.If u were me then U would pick a HKS Air Suction Reloaded or Gruppe M Super Cleaner?

Nikkolai · 03-07-2011, 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Andy124

Sounds cool but have to get other parts to combine together.If u were me then U would pick a HKS Air Suction Reloaded or Gruppe M Super Cleaner?

HKS Super Suction Reloaded. It's a full intake and with the Gruppe M, it's just the filters with stock rubber hoses that's not smooth.

Andy124 · 03-07-2011, 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Nikkolai

HKS Super Suction Reloaded. It's a full intake and with the Gruppe M, it's just the filters with stock rubber hoses that's not smooth.

Agreed with that too.Probably will get a HKS Super Suction Reloaded.Recommended?

Jordo! · 03-07-2011, 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Andy124

Agreed with that too.Probably will get a HKS Super Suction Reloaded.Recommended?

Until someone shows me very clear dyno evidence to the contrary, I say the best bet is to go with high flow panel filters and smooth intake tubes on the OEM airbox.

Someone is working on a system similar to a (theoretically) better flowing filter that will be heat shielded and plug into the OEM bumper ducts, but it's not available yet -- I'd wait for that.

Otherwise, if you are determined to ditch the OEM airboxes, I suppose you could see about getting a set of used gen 3's.

Still, best bang for the buck IMO is panel filters plus smooth tubes.

Andy124 · 03-07-2011, 11:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Jordo!

Until someone shows me very clear dyno evidence to the contrary, I say the best bet is to go with high flow panel filters and smooth intake tubes on the OEM airbox.

Someone is working on a system similar to a (theoretically) better flowing filter that will be heat shielded and plug into the OEM bumper ducts, but it's not available yet -- I'd wait for that.

Otherwise, if you are determined to ditch the OEM airboxes, I suppose you could see about getting a set of used gen 3's.

Still, best bang for the buck IMO is panel filters plus smooth tubes.

I see.I not going for long tubes intake and consider more to short tubes intake so HKS Reloaded or Gruppe M came across my mind.Any dyno test made for HKS Reloaded?I saw a Docaam use the HKS Reloaded b4.He provide any Dyno result?

Jordo! · 03-08-2011, 04:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Andy124

I see.I not going for long tubes intake and consider more to short tubes intake so HKS Reloaded or Gruppe M came across my mind.Any dyno test made for HKS Reloaded?I saw a Docaam use the HKS Reloaded b4.He provide any Dyno result?

Forget the whole long tubes short tubes BS -- that's not what's making a difference.

What matters is where it pulls air from. The long tubes and the OEM airbox do it from in front of the radiator -- the short tubes do it from behind, and do not take advantage of the OEM cool air ducts.

Guess which set-ups make more power?

Andy124 · 03-08-2011, 10:21 AM

urmmm....no idea dude...haha...but i heard what ppl said hot country not suitable for CAI....

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6spd A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: South Florida Posts: 3,001 Drives: Q50RS Rep Power: 25	gruppe-m, huh, k-ching, k-ching!! they've been around a long time and make great products, just costs a sh1t ton for them. __________________ -Jay- jonathanjamesphotographer.com

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Jordo! A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2010 Location: nirvana Posts: 6,394 Drives: 2023 NATM Rep Power: 418	They don't make one for the Z34 that I can see and the gains look comparable to every other intake including K&N drop ins plus HPS tubes. Nice piece, but if they make one for us eventually, pass -- too much money. Agree on foam filters -- they flow well, but offer poor filtration and in theory, if they degrade, you could suck in some of the element. __________________ Enjoy it. Destroy it.

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03-06-2011, 11:38 AM	#2 (permalink)
efuseakay Enthusiast Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: The DAYNGA ZONE! Posts: 404 Drives: 2010 G37xS Sedan Rep Power: 15	Never heard of that one. Don't bother with the HKS drop-ins... foam = yikes!

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Andy124 Base Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Malaysia Posts: 86 Drives: Crystal White 370z Rep Power: 14	this is what i got on the website and our country seem famous with this air filter.Here is the link about Z34 Gruppe M Super cleaner. ??????????? GruppeM Inc. - ?????? Btw,HKS Air Suction Reloaded will be noisy and gain more HP if compare to K&N Typhoon or others drop in?

03-07-2011, 04:57 AM	#7 (permalink)
Andy124 Base Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Malaysia Posts: 86 Drives: Crystal White 370z Rep Power: 14	Sounds cool but have to get other parts to combine together.If u were me then U would pick a HKS Air Suction Reloaded or Gruppe M Super Cleaner?

03-08-2011, 10:21 AM	#13 (permalink)
Andy124 Base Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Malaysia Posts: 86 Drives: Crystal White 370z Rep Power: 14	urmmm....no idea dude...haha...but i heard what ppl said hot country not suitable for CAI....