Nissan 370Z Forum  

my new custom CAI and MAF

Originally Posted by somatic so, not to be a necro but this looks very interesting. What ever happened??? Right now the car is sitting at the dealership for a badly

Go Back   Nissan 370Z Forum > Nissan 370Z Tech Area > Engine & Drivetrain > Intake/Exhaust


Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 09-17-2011, 08:21 AM   #46 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
Megan370z's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Canada
Posts: 1,156
Drives: 370z
Rep Power: 24
Megan370z has a reputation beyond reputeMegan370z has a reputation beyond reputeMegan370z has a reputation beyond reputeMegan370z has a reputation beyond reputeMegan370z has a reputation beyond reputeMegan370z has a reputation beyond reputeMegan370z has a reputation beyond reputeMegan370z has a reputation beyond reputeMegan370z has a reputation beyond reputeMegan370z has a reputation beyond reputeMegan370z has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by somatic View Post
so, not to be a necro but this looks very interesting. What ever happened???
Right now the car is sitting at the dealership for a badly cracked flywheel and also waiting for the tranny front seal.

the car on the same dyno with a difference of about 10degree C on the fully modded setup
the result was ;
stock =256whp
modded=311whp

a gain of 55whp


but ! I have mentionned a few time that my Ign Timing was getting pulled everytime at the higher RPM and I also seen a 2 other place on the powerband that my IGN was getting pulled..

it was probably due to the cracked flywheel

as of now , I wont be able to redo some tuning on dyno before next year ,
Im leaving in a few weeks (Army)
Megan370z is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-17-2011, 05:41 PM   #47 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Maryland
Posts: 1,393
Drives: 11 370 6mt pw w/sp
Rep Power: 16
Methodical4u is a jewel in the roughMethodical4u is a jewel in the roughMethodical4u is a jewel in the roughMethodical4u is a jewel in the rough
Default

I'm wondering without F.I. how much power it will actually gain... I would imagine it would gain at least a little bit... definitely interested in what the results will yield.

I'm also curious about the HR manifold... is that supposed to produce more power?
Methodical4u is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-17-2011, 05:43 PM   #48 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Maryland
Posts: 1,393
Drives: 11 370 6mt pw w/sp
Rep Power: 16
Methodical4u is a jewel in the roughMethodical4u is a jewel in the roughMethodical4u is a jewel in the roughMethodical4u is a jewel in the rough
Default

Quite a gain man... that sucks about the flywheel though. Hopefully it all gets straightened out and you can see if it will do more.
Methodical4u is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-17-2011, 08:38 PM   #49 (permalink)
Enthusiast Member
 
ChipsWithDips's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Austin, TX
Posts: 279
Drives: '11 Gunmetal 370Z MT
Rep Power: 14
ChipsWithDips has a spectacular aura aboutChipsWithDips has a spectacular aura about
Default

How did the flywheel get cracked? Was it OEM or aftermarket?
ChipsWithDips is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-18-2011, 10:02 AM   #50 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
Megan370z's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Canada
Posts: 1,156
Drives: 370z
Rep Power: 24
Megan370z has a reputation beyond reputeMegan370z has a reputation beyond reputeMegan370z has a reputation beyond reputeMegan370z has a reputation beyond reputeMegan370z has a reputation beyond reputeMegan370z has a reputation beyond reputeMegan370z has a reputation beyond reputeMegan370z has a reputation beyond reputeMegan370z has a reputation beyond reputeMegan370z has a reputation beyond reputeMegan370z has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by ChipsWithDips View Post
How did the flywheel get cracked? Was it OEM or aftermarket?
OEM ,,, I havent seen any aftermarket flywheel with the 7AT...
Megan370z is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-18-2011, 12:18 PM   #51 (permalink)
Enthusiast Member
 
ChipsWithDips's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Austin, TX
Posts: 279
Drives: '11 Gunmetal 370Z MT
Rep Power: 14
ChipsWithDips has a spectacular aura aboutChipsWithDips has a spectacular aura about
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Megan370z View Post
OEM ,,, I havent seen any aftermarket flywheel with the 7AT...
Ah, I didn't see that it was AT
ChipsWithDips is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-14-2015, 10:58 PM   #52 (permalink)
Base Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: DFW Texas
Posts: 149
Drives: '13 370z black 7AT
Rep Power: 12
jrb55gh is on a distinguished road
Default Stock cai restriction

Quote:
Originally Posted by Megan370z View Post
just to give some dimension on those pipes

its start from 3inch (filter) and goes to a reducer down to 2.5inch (63.5mm) for the MAF tube then it taper larger to 2.75'' (silicone hose )
I had a pair of throttle body machined to 62.5mm from 60mm stock.



The Stillen gen 3 was my inspiration to begging with , since its a proved CAI for the performance given.
because my new throttle body is bigger I needed everthing else also bigger to aloud the same air flow.
using silicone tube was for the flex that is needed !

I have measured the pressure drops across various parts of the stock 370z intake tract at WOT and 7300 rpm to determine where to place the emphasis on reducing restrictions. The engine, intake and exhaust are completely stock except for an EcuTek tune. Your custom cai addresses the most important areas. It would be interesting to know the pressure drop of your cai at the entrance to the throttle body under similar conditions.

The stock intake pressure drops measured are:

1.044” H2O pressure drop of air filter only
2.724” H2O pressure drop of intake duct before the air filter
7.128” H2O pressure drop across stock MAF tube

The major restrictions are in the duct up to the air filter and the MAF sensor. The air filter restriction is small compared to other areas of the intake tract. Even if the filter restriction could be halved the flow gains would be almost negligible compared to the other parts of the intake tract up to the throttle body. The small gain in air filter flow may not be worth the loss of filtering efficiency (% of dust entering the filter that is trapped). Most stock paper air filters have a filtering efficiency of about 99% whereas the oiled gauze low restriction filters have a filtering efficiency of about 96%. Here is a link to an informative air filter test:

K&N Air Filter Review - Debunking the Myths (and why OEM is better)

My conclusion from this is to use high efficiency filters on a low restriction cai and keep dirt out of the engine.
jrb55gh is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-15-2015, 02:03 AM   #53 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
Jordo!'s Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: nirvana
Posts: 6,394
Drives: 2023 NATM
Rep Power: 418
Jordo! has a reputation beyond reputeJordo! has a reputation beyond reputeJordo! has a reputation beyond reputeJordo! has a reputation beyond reputeJordo! has a reputation beyond reputeJordo! has a reputation beyond reputeJordo! has a reputation beyond reputeJordo! has a reputation beyond reputeJordo! has a reputation beyond reputeJordo! has a reputation beyond reputeJordo! has a reputation beyond repute
Default

I doubt there's much you can do about the pressure drop in the MAF tube itself (although the "smooth tubes" may mitigate it somewhat); the MAF sensor itself is the restriction.

Also, K&N's definitely show less pressure drop than paper filters (by about 1 -2% at most, mind you) -- they also show consistent gains over the OEM paper.

As to dirt loading/ passing -- higher flow generally means less dirt kept out.
__________________
Enjoy it. Destroy it.
Jordo! is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-15-2015, 06:39 AM   #54 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
Megan370z's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Canada
Posts: 1,156
Drives: 370z
Rep Power: 24
Megan370z has a reputation beyond reputeMegan370z has a reputation beyond reputeMegan370z has a reputation beyond reputeMegan370z has a reputation beyond reputeMegan370z has a reputation beyond reputeMegan370z has a reputation beyond reputeMegan370z has a reputation beyond reputeMegan370z has a reputation beyond reputeMegan370z has a reputation beyond reputeMegan370z has a reputation beyond reputeMegan370z has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by jrb55gh View Post
I have measured the pressure drops across various parts of the stock 370z intake tract at WOT and 7300 rpm to determine where to place the emphasis on reducing restrictions. The engine, intake and exhaust are completely stock except for an EcuTek tune. Your custom cai addresses the most important areas. It would be interesting to know the pressure drop of your cai at the entrance to the throttle body under similar conditions.
humm there nothing to discuss here as this 2011 old thread was about the custom CAI i did years ago, I went F/I so...
sorry.
__________________
Megan Journal *Click Me* ....................One Man Team Motorsport *Click Me*
Megan370z is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-16-2015, 01:00 AM   #55 (permalink)
Base Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Corpus Christi TX
Posts: 82
Drives: 2010 370z
Rep Power: 13
Bigd4mcc is on a distinguished road
Default

What did you do with the cai?!?!?!?!? I want it!
__________________
2010 base with sport package. Hps hoses with k&n drop ins, custom axle back exhaust. 1/4 mile 13.7
Bigd4mcc is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
custom seats/other chii370 Exterior & Interior 2 03-12-2011 05:06 PM
Custom Sub box cletis Audio & Video 4 11-15-2010 10:24 PM
GT Motoring - custom tow hook finshing pics, Custom finishes now available GT Motoring Exterior & Interior 45 09-05-2010 04:31 AM


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 10:26 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0 PL2