MOTORDYNE ART Pipes - Review

Unique_Z · 09-13-2011, 08:43 AM

Im interested in this ART pipes, how do i get one?

cheshirecat · 09-13-2011, 09:25 AM

pm motordyne.

AggieAv8r · 09-13-2011, 09:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kosstick

Had this exact same problem with gasket.. iT GOT incinerated. I changed it but still got SES though

I have the exact same issue with these gaskets - with 2 different sets. The Berk gaskets and the Motordyne gaskets. When I received my replacement set of V2 pipes the gasket was destroyed. Unfortunately new gaskets were not shipped with the new set - huge inconvenience. Now I'm waiting on some OEM gaskets and will once again change these out.

All these are blowing out on the same side - inboard and just below that bolt thats extremely tight from the factory. We have been sure to tighten that as much as "physically" possible and are still developing leaks. Not sure what's to blame, the machined face? Gasket material?

Motordyne · 09-13-2011, 10:32 AM

The flanges are checked for flatness and put through a planer if it is needed. The planer grinds the flange flat after welding.

kosstick · 09-13-2011, 10:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AggieAv8r

I have the exact same issue with these gaskets - with 2 different sets. The Berk gaskets and the Motordyne gaskets. When I received my replacement set of V2 pipes the gasket was destroyed. Unfortunately new gaskets were not shipped with the new set - huge inconvenience. Now I'm waiting on some OEM gaskets and will once again change these out.

All these are blowing out on the same side - inboard and just below that bolt thats extremely tight from the factory. We have been sure to tighten that as much as "physically" possible and are still developing leaks. Not sure what's to blame, the machined face? Gasket material?

Oem gaskets are just a O ring they wont work bro. Ask tony for some more

37drift · 09-13-2011, 12:11 PM

Hey Guys.

I passed the 1500 mile mark on my G37's ART pipes. Wanted to give an update. The Rattle I was complaining about earlier in this thread has completely GONE AWAY as promised by Tony.

There are no signs whatsoever anymore. Not during cold, warm, or HOT engine operation. I didn't have to drive the car abnormally to make the sound go away, and I think that may be why it took my rattle a little longer to disappear. I normally tend to stay off the throttle more than others.

Sound is much more dampened now. Wicked throaty when you're deep on the pedal, but muted when you want it to be.

So happy with my purchase. Thanks so much Tony for your patience in working with my issue. Can't wait for the rest of the Motordyne exhaust now!

Methodical4u · 09-13-2011, 12:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Iwan72

Im interested in this ART pipes, how do i get one?

off topic real quick but, interesting wheel color lol

Methodical4u · 09-13-2011, 12:55 PM

Have any of you guys with gasket issues tried like the permatex high heat gasket maker? It might be worth a shot you never know right?

Methodical4u · 09-13-2011, 12:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Iwan72

Im interested in this ART pipes, how do i get one?

By the way, the ART pipes would be one of the best investments you could do to your car IMO.

kosstick · 09-13-2011, 01:04 PM

Any idea roughly when???

wind.zero · 09-13-2011, 04:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kosstick

Had this exact same problem with gasket.. iT GOT incinerated. I changed it but still got SES though

You might still have a leak if you are throwing the SES

First, I want to say that the customer support from Motordyne is fantastic. I had a leak from blown gaskets and they sent me replacements at no charge. I had them installed over the weekend. The difference was amazing but unfortunately short lived. I posted the picture of the blown gasket several posts back.

The fuel smell was gone
The SES was gone
The nasty, raspy, whooshing noise was gone
The exhaust note was almost stock, very quiet
Now all of that is back, keep reading ….

Granted, I am on the OEM NISMO exhaust, but I could hear a rattling, whoosh noise directly related to the amount of throttle applied. It was easy to identify once I knew what it sounded like. Having the car leak free enabled me to identify the leak sound. If I accelerate up to say 30-40 and shift to 5th/6th and floor it, I could easily hear the raspy leak. I thought that was just a test pipe noise but realized that was the exhaust leak.

Replacing the gaskets significantly quieted the exhaust. However, the new gaskets lasted about 72 hours. I have searched around and cannot find a metal based replacement. When I had a Random Technology HFC on another vehicle it came with metal based gaskets. I do not think these fiber based gaskets are working, but I cannot find a more suitable replacement. The same tuner (Jotech Motorsports) did the initial install and gasket replacement, so I do not think it is an installer issue. I am SC’ed but that should not increase exhaust temperature or otherwise compromise the gasket.

So, I am seriously considering going back to the OEM cats. Again, this is absolutely no slam on Motordyne. They produce a great product, but I think some applications need a more durable gasket. I cannot explain why the vast majority of Motordyne ART installs have no problem. The problem seems to be limited to a few buyers. I have no idea what the underlying problem is with the people experiencing the leak problem and then the SEL.

Just my experience and I want to keep the pipes but I need a gasket solution.

kosstick · 09-13-2011, 04:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wind.zero

You might still have a leak if you are throwing the SES

First, I want to say that the customer support from Motordyne is fantastic. I had a leak from blown gaskets and they sent me replacements at no charge. I had them installed over the weekend. The difference was amazing but unfortunately short lived. I posted the picture of the blown gasket several posts back.

The fuel smell was gone
The SES was gone
The nasty, raspy, whooshing noise was gone
The exhaust note was almost stock, very quiet
Now all of that is back, keep reading ….

Granted, I am on the OEM NISMO exhaust, but I could hear a rattling, whoosh noise directly related to the amount of throttle applied. It was easy to identify once I knew what it sounded like. Having the car leak free enabled me to identify the leak sound. If I accelerate up to say 30-40 and shift to 5th/6th and floor it, I could easily hear the raspy leak. I thought that was just a test pipe noise but realized that was the exhaust leak.

Replacing the gaskets significantly quieted the exhaust. However, the new gaskets lasted about 72 hours. I have searched around and cannot find a metal based replacement. When I had a Random Technology HFC on another vehicle it came with metal based gaskets. I do not think these fiber based gaskets are working, but I cannot find a more suitable replacement. The same tuner (Jotech Motorsports) did the initial install and gasket replacement, so I do not think it is an installer issue. I am SC’ed but that should not increase exhaust temperature or otherwise compromise the gasket.

So, I am seriously considering going back to the OEM cats. Again, this is absolutely no slam on Motordyne. They produce a great product, but I think some applications need a more durable gasket. I cannot explain why the vast majority of Motordyne ART installs have no problem. The problem seems to be limited to a few buyers. I have no idea what the underlying problem is with the people experiencing the leak problem and then the SEL.

Just my experience and I want to keep the pipes but I need a gasket solution.

Tony any chance we can get beefier gaskets, they are getting destroyed lol

Methodical4u · 09-13-2011, 04:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wind.zero

You might still have a leak if you are throwing the SES

First, I want to say that the customer support from Motordyne is fantastic. I had a leak from blown gaskets and they sent me replacements at no charge. I had them installed over the weekend. The difference was amazing but unfortunately short lived. I posted the picture of the blown gasket several posts back.

The fuel smell was gone
The SES was gone
The nasty, raspy, whooshing noise was gone
The exhaust note was almost stock, very quiet
Now all of that is back, keep reading ….

Granted, I am on the OEM NISMO exhaust, but I could hear a rattling, whoosh noise directly related to the amount of throttle applied. It was easy to identify once I knew what it sounded like. Having the car leak free enabled me to identify the leak sound. If I accelerate up to say 30-40 and shift to 5th/6th and floor it, I could easily hear the raspy leak. I thought that was just a test pipe noise but realized that was the exhaust leak.

Replacing the gaskets significantly quieted the exhaust. However, the new gaskets lasted about 72 hours. I have searched around and cannot find a metal based replacement. When I had a Random Technology HFC on another vehicle it came with metal based gaskets. I do not think these fiber based gaskets are working, but I cannot find a more suitable replacement. The same tuner (Jotech Motorsports) did the initial install and gasket replacement, so I do not think it is an installer issue. I am SC’ed but that should not increase exhaust temperature or otherwise compromise the gasket.

So, I am seriously considering going back to the OEM cats. Again, this is absolutely no slam on Motordyne. They produce a great product, but I think some applications need a more durable gasket. I cannot explain why the vast majority of Motordyne ART installs have no problem. The problem seems to be limited to a few buyers. I have no idea what the underlying problem is with the people experiencing the leak problem and then the SEL.

Just my experience and I want to keep the pipes but I need a gasket solution.

What my question would be is high tight are people making their bolts and what are the torque specs? I don't think you want to completely crush a gasket... rather just make sure the bolt is just tight enough... which can be a fine line. I don't know myself, so i'm interested and if new gaskets do come out, I want

I wonder if someone could fab one out of solid sheet of aluminum and if that would work?

Osiris · 09-13-2011, 05:22 PM

well this is all disappointing....i was considering buying these. Since i am also sc'd, i'm having second thoughts.

kosstick · 09-13-2011, 05:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Osiris

well this is all disappointing....i was considering buying these. Since i am also sc'd, i'm having second thoughts.

Being SC'd has nothing to do with it. Def Get it as a tiny gasket issue is easily fixable.

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