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Motordyne 12-05-2011 01:19 PM

^ Yes, absolutely.
Pictures, descriptions and specs on everything.

370Z JT 12-12-2011 02:43 PM

New week, new updates?

Motordyne 12-12-2011 04:34 PM

For some reason I can't get the video to imbed but here is the link.

Motordyne Shockwave exhaust system for the Nissan 370Z. - YouTube

Motordyne Shockwave))) Exhaust with ART test pipes for the Nissan 370Z.
Dynamic range test. Low throttle position 1 minute. Wide Open Throttle 30 seconds.

This is a close stereo mic recording of the exhaust system where high resolution, directional microphones are centered and aimed directly at the tips from 18" away.

You will notice the microphone is sensitive enough to pick up the subtle details such as gravel noise, road texture or even the license plate frame occasionally rattling.

The 370Z starts driving down the road quietly but as soon as it is down shifted and slammed WOT it opens up loudly. No rasp and no drone.

Drive by sound clips will sound substantially different and will be made as soon as the rain stops.:tiphat:

b1adesofcha0s 12-12-2011 04:40 PM

Here you go :tiphat:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p26tsDzVZiw

Motordyne 12-12-2011 05:00 PM

Thank you for the imbed tip!:tup:

The clip here is a continuation of the clip above with a lead foot much of the whole way through.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8zQsb0_RAJ4[/QUOTE]

Footloose301 12-12-2011 05:04 PM

You need some driveby videos. That video doesn't do justice.

Edit: Ok, just now got a chance to watch the videos on my 17" MacBook Pro and they sound soooo much better than the iPhone and iPad that I watched them on 15min ago. However, I still think you need some driveby videos because at WOT it does sound raspy but I think thats due to the mic being right next to the exhaust. I'm sure it sounds 1000x better in person. Can't wait to see dyno comparos for Stock vs Motordyne, AND if you guys did a Fast Intentions vs Motordyne it would be awesome!

Paskii 12-12-2011 05:21 PM

Sweet Update Tony! Nice video, quality is pretty sweet and the exhaust system sounds pretty sick. Looking forward to drive by videos and dyno test results! :happydance::happydance:

Think it's time for a new thread!

Footloose301 12-12-2011 05:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paskii (Post 1446975)

Think it's time for a new thread!

^this

sfearl1 12-12-2011 06:23 PM

Tony, are these helmholtz side branch resonators or dual ti straight pipe style? Sounds a bit different than the 350 tdx2...

Motordyne 12-12-2011 06:28 PM

Production has started as of today 12/12/11
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Footloose301 (Post 1446944)
You need some driveby videos. That video doesn't do justice.

Yes, the mic's may be at or near being driven into clipping. The microphones were placed further away on the back window but wind noise became a problem. The only place where wind wasn't a problem was just above the back bumper.

Drivebys will be made ASAP.

I have not made comparative clips or dynos against other manufacturers systems but it will surely happen (independently) once released.

It was a long weekend of testing, swaping, comparing, listening, evaluating and recording.

And here is what I found.

Exhaust system development started on the 370Z with the Shockwave exhaust system. This was the first system.
Then many, many other entirely different configurations were tried. One of the objectives of developing a new exhaust was to try something entirely different and based entirely on Helmholtz side branch resonators for sound control.

The basis for sound control exclusively with side branch resonators was an extrapolation of the effective sound control as seen with ART pipes.
ART pipes are about 1/2 the loudness of regular test pipes so by this reasoning, side branch resonators were tried on an exhaust system using only side branch resonators. This was tried but it was too loud.

Many different variations of Helmholtz sidebranch resonators were tried in different locations and resonator frequencies/sizes.

What I found was sidebranch resonators control act pretty much the same way they affect the power curve. For ART pipes (or side branch resonators) to be effective on the dyno power curve, the resonator must be placed as close as possible to the engine.

As the resonator is placed further and further away from the engine, it has diminishing effect on the power curve.... and the same follows for sound control. Side branch resonators have less effect on sound control as they are placed further and further from the engine.

So while it would have been a very different exhaust system, it just didn't have enough sound control. Many R&D prototype parts and configurations were tried. Forward facing resonators, backward facing resonators, different merge collectors, different resonator locations. I'll post pics of the prototype parts.

It was finally concluded that a glass pack based muffler was mandatory for sufficient sound control and tone. Then multiple variations of glass pack mufflers were tried. A full parametric experimental sequence of tests. All new mufflers and experiments with existing muffler designs by using them in different ways. Forward facing, backward facing, different muffler types and locations. The simple act of flowing a single in dual out glass pack muffler forward or backwards completely changes the sound even though it dynos the same.

Some sounded really good. Some sounded really bad. So more and more prototypes were fabricated and tested. There were 2 good contenders for comparison.

Then finally, another variation was tried on the original 370Z Shockwave exhaust where the muffler was packed more tightly. I found this has the effect of better sound control at lower throttle positions yet makes for a more progressive sound as RPM increases. So it only took a minor change to the muffler packing to achieve the goal.

This system also had the best throttle response

The final result is that the R&D came around full circle. Of all the systems tried the Shockwave))) with a small tweak to the glass packing has the best sound, dyno results and throttle response when all the prototypes were compared side by side.

It took a ton of fabrication time and $$$ but this is the nature of R&D.

Production officially started this morning.
I will start a new thread with pictures when a clean production part comes off the production line.

The Motordyne Shockwave))) exhaust system is modular. The clip above is the loudest variation.
Options will include HFC's built into the midpipes and a full dual 3" version.

Pics will be posted in the new thread.

Footloose301 12-12-2011 06:44 PM

Nice! :tup:

370Z JT 12-12-2011 07:47 PM

Tony are you taking volunteers for dyno comparisons?

Motordyne 12-12-2011 08:33 PM

As many as possible as long as they are fair and independent.

modme 12-12-2011 08:43 PM

Are there plans for an exhaust for G37?

anthonyy 12-12-2011 09:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Motordyne (Post 1447063)
Options will include HFC's built into the midpipes and a full dual 3" version.

:yum:


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