Originally Posted by tjlazer Yep with that analogy just go buy the high end pipes for $400 since you are buying a 40K car.... LOL Pipes are pipes, I don't
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11-18-2010, 01:44 AM | #16 (permalink) |
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Buy whatever the hell you want, but after 35 years of owning high end performance cars, from a 1960s Boss 302 to Z28s to an M3 to 4 corvettes, I won't compromise my performance and investment by modifying with dimestore components.
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I assume your joking... Cheap test pipes will not last... They'll probably break off one day and then what... Wasted money. OP, you have a Nismo don't rice it...
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11-18-2010, 04:39 AM | #23 (permalink) | |
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Those look exactly like the ones I got off of ebay which were ~$150 shipped and they work just fine. Seriously now...
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11-18-2010, 06:49 AM | #24 (permalink) |
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Your point is well taken and I appreciate your making it without an unproductive attack. However, take your example. I try not to install most mods myself as My experience has taught me that I'll f*** something up...so I leave it to professionals to install my mods. So, for the sake of friendly argument, let's say I buy my $40 pipe off eBay, schedule an appt w/ my exhaust guy, drive 20 miles there, he uninstalls my stock cats, attempts to install my straight pipe , but, as in your scenario, ...it doesn't fit. My installer then has to reinstall my stock cats. I have to pay him his full charge--it wasn't his fault; and i now have to fool with the hassle of returning the $40 pipe back to the ebay seller (probably at my expense if he's like most ebay sellers), and then hope he sends me one that will fit. After probably some delay, i finally get the pipe and its back to the installer again, hoping this will fit. And I've got to pay him again to install. To me, it's too much risk of a continuous hassle and could cost me more $ than if I had bought the high end pipe in the fist place. So, to me, I've been better off buying the best quality aftermarket mods I can afford.
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11-18-2010, 08:14 AM | #25 (permalink) |
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I'm confused here, did someone say to order a $275 TEST PIPE because it's better quality? Seriously? 2 flanges (cheap) welded to a short pipe (cheap) should not cost $275.
Do you understand how easy and cheap it is for these exhaust companies to make their exhausts (read: CAT BACKS)? How much time do you think they actually invest in making a jig for their products? It really doesn't take a rocket scientist to create these parts and decide what will sound good and work. Once they have a prototype or jig they do 1 of 2 things, send it over seas to be reproduced for the cost of peanuts or make it in house using their jig. Even if they opt to make it in house, it's still cheap. People that have this train of thought are the single reason companies over charge for simple (and cheap) items like exhaust and exhaust components. Do you really think it costs certain American companies anywhere near the $1,300+ price you pay for their exhaust? I think if you added up the cost of the supplies and labor (including man hours spent fitting/creating the exhaust/R&D) and compared it to the final cost you paid you would laugh. Money does not equal quality all the time. But hey, I can't knock any of these companies. They know that if they charge more (based on the car) for "quality" parts someone will go out and buy it solely because it's more expensive and therefore must be better. Last edited by gaveup; 11-18-2010 at 08:32 AM. |
11-18-2010, 11:52 AM | #26 (permalink) |
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I'm gonna have to say for that price if the inlet and outlet match up who cares if the welds crack and they eventually fall off. It's only 100 bucks lost and it's not going to harm the car.
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11-18-2010, 12:13 PM | #28 (permalink) | |
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Even the "higher" quality test pipes are not 100% indestructible and are prone to cracking as well. (although it *might* be at a lower rate, but who knows) So you'd be out even more money if that were the case right? Let's say you bought these ebay test pipes and got them installed (if you can find a shop that will remove cats for you) and one of the welds cracked, you could always bring it back to the exhaust shop and they should be able to fix the crack for like $50 tops. This would be the same for any of the more expensive pipes as well. That said, has anyone on here bought these "cheap", "poorly made" "garbage" ebay test pipes and had an issue with them cracking? |
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11-18-2010, 12:23 PM | #29 (permalink) | |
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your analogy if its not that big of a hassle.. let me reword that... If you think cooking is too much of a hassle.. then you shouldnt eat.. I know im stretching it! still. Some people dont have the time, tools or ability. Doesnt mean they cannot enjoy their car like some of us do. |
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