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Highwind 11-15-2010 11:11 AM

I had a friend(sofaking) push up the exhaust will bolting it down at the cat as well. Other than that, everything went smoothly. No cel issues here

fxroar 11-15-2010 11:48 AM

Did you take pics of your exhaust? Post pics please when you can. Thanks!

destinyZ 11-15-2010 12:45 PM

yea...it shouldnt be throwing any CEL at all after a CBE install. Either the installers did something or maybe you do have an exhaust leak?? But then againk I dont think the car could even sence and exhaust leak after the 02 sensors, its usually by ear kind of thing...very weird that you have a CEL issue. Let us know what happens

fxroar 11-15-2010 02:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by destinyZ (Post 810183)
yea...it shouldnt be throwing any CEL at all after a CBE install. Either the installers did something or maybe you do have an exhaust leak?? But then againk I dont think the car could even sence and exhaust leak after the 02 sensors, its usually by ear kind of thing...very weird that you have a CEL issue. Let us know what happens

*Update*
The CEL was supposedly caused by gas cap. Weird.. Really suspicious since CEL came up last night and last time I got gas was a week ago. Anyways. No more CEL and just to confirm it is NOT the exaust.

2nd problem.. The driver side ballast is busted. Theyre doing 1 day rushed shipping. Should get it by tomorrow. Thats right.. Ballast went out wtf..

Got a loaner car. 09 maxima. Sweet ride :)

Jamaica 11-15-2010 02:53 PM

nothing but problems..

Joseph B 11-15-2010 03:10 PM

It's too bad that nowadays people who know nothing about cars are allowed to post on forums and rant about companies who will not/cannot defend themselves publicly here.

You think you got a bad product?

Step one: Don't put it on! Call the company, tell them your issue. Then you will get an answer on what they will do for you. If then you are not happy and feel you are being jerked around, then come here and post! It doesn't seem like you did that. It seems like you rode the anxiety/panic wave from an unhappy G37 post and expanded on it.

Are you serious? You think an exhaust is turning your check engine light on? You could take your exhaust off after the cat and the ECU wouldn't know.

It's to bad that people act like this on the forums. Coming on here and complaining that you are not happy for the world to see, hoping that ARK is going to step in. All along you haven't even contacted the company you bought it from to see if they can do anything?

and all the people jumping on the bandwagon, dissapointing.

Jamaica 11-15-2010 03:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joseph B (Post 810460)
It's too bad that nowadays people who know nothing about cars are allowed to post on forums and rant about companies who will not/cannot defend themselves publicly here.

You think you got a bad product?

Step one: Don't put it on! Call the company, tell them your issue. Then you will get an answer on what they will do for you. If then you are not happy and feel you are being jerked around, then come here and post! It doesn't seem like you did that. It seems like you rode the anxiety/panic wave from an unhappy G37 post and expanded on it.

Are you serious? You think an exhaust is turning your check engine light on? You could take your exhaust off after the cat and the ECU wouldn't know.

It's to bad that people act like this on the forums. Coming on here and complaining that you are not happy for the world to see, hoping that ARK is going to step in. All along you haven't even contacted the company you bought it from to see if they can do anything?

and all the people jumping on the bandwagon, dissapointing.

It has to do with quality and customer service. The exhaust quality has to be on point. I have never seen an exhaust like that before. My fast intentions exhaust looks nothing like that. Talk to Ark about it. Maybe they can work something out.

phelan 11-15-2010 03:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joseph B (Post 810460)
It's too bad that nowadays people who know nothing about cars are allowed to post on forums and rant about companies who will not/cannot defend themselves publicly here.

You think you got a bad product?

Step one: Don't put it on! Call the company, tell them your issue. Then you will get an answer on what they will do for you. If then you are not happy and feel you are being jerked around, then come here and post! It doesn't seem like you did that. It seems like you rode the anxiety/panic wave from an unhappy G37 post and expanded on it.

Are you serious? You think an exhaust is turning your check engine light on? You could take your exhaust off after the cat and the ECU wouldn't know.

It's to bad that people act like this on the forums. Coming on here and complaining that you are not happy for the world to see, hoping that ARK is going to step in. All along you haven't even contacted the company you bought it from to see if they can do anything?

and all the people jumping on the bandwagon, dissapointing.

Wow, butthurt much? Whining back for all the world to see? Damn.

No, the exhaust should not cause a CEL, that was just a matter of bad timing.

The problem lies in that the product has what I would consider less than acceptable welds and varying degrees of damage. From the sounds of it, I'm not the only one concerned. However, TeamARK has already come in and said the welds and the scratches would be rectified for the November sale. Does that mean until now, they've acknowledged their welding is rubbish but continued anyway? Does that mean until now, they've just said "eh it's a tiny scratch" and sent the product on its merry way?

Their previous response of "those welds will not break...scratches on hangar", etc. also makes it sound like they're not going to do anything about this system that fxroar has. Unless I'm reading it wrong. Feel free to correct me if you think so. Hell, if TeamARK thinks I read it all wrong I will edit this post later on.

Ask yourself as well, though, would you be happy if you spent a thousand bucks and got an exhaust that looked like it was welded together by a trainee and been through a quick sand blast? I sure as hell wouldn't. Why can't ARK deliver defect-free products the way a shop like Fast Intentions or Invidia can? You pay with the expectation of getting (in ARK's somewhat paraphrased words) a top quality exhaust for the money. I would think the customer has the right to complain if it isn't 'top quality'.

Fine, I give you the company should have been given first dibs to deal with it internally, but from what I've seen, this has been happening for a while, and they haven't shown any kind of intent to fix their welds or other minor defects.

Joseph B 11-15-2010 03:27 PM

The bottom line is to use common sense, if you are not happy deal with the company directly. Don't come on here without contacting the company first.

This applies to all things, not just exhausts for 370's.

TeamARK 11-15-2010 04:20 PM

As a company, we are not here to argue with customers. However, we have always stood behind our products. Since day one with the 370z we have gotten nothing but good feedback on the exhaust and customer service. Unfortunately, as stated the thread that started out on myg37 went over here and caused some hesitation on our product when it never existed in the 370z community to begin with.

The outcome was that we will offer the same type of finish and inspection to all ARK products. This inspection before shipment will now be a part of our shipping process.

For those who continue to support us, Thank you. We will be here to support all ARK customers.

If you have any questions please give us a call at 909.391.1275

fxroar 11-15-2010 06:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jamaica951 (Post 810428)
nothing but problems..

Heres more. I just got a call from nissan. Ballast is back ordered. Won't be able to get til next week. :(

daisuke149 11-15-2010 06:28 PM

Knowing Ark and Alex (via other communities they are very well known in) i gotta say if you talk to them and let them know of an issue they will take care of it. Alot of people wanna jump in here and stomp on em but seriously evey company has had issues here and there and will again. But Arks been willing to take care of the customer and thats probably the most important.

Thus so many posts about dealerships... So many posts about lack of communication etc..

P.s scratches on an exhaust lol. Better never put it on then if u dont want it scratched.
Now dents and wrong bends is well and issue and should be taken care off.

Oh well this is the internet and is to be expected. All i know is they have good products and reputations every ive seen and their products from 2004 to now look and sound good. If you have doubts go see and hear one in person.

Also fxroar.. This started out as a thread for you being excited about this. Once the drama from this thread is gone let us all knoe your true opinion on it

fxroar 11-15-2010 06:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joseph B (Post 810492)
The bottom line is to use common sense, if you are not happy deal with the company directly. Don't come on here without contacting the company first.

This applies to all things, not just exhausts for 370's.

I seriously dont know why you are getting butthurt. So youre telling me that I am not entitled to share the pics of my shipment? That I should go talk to ark.. Get another set of exhaust then come here and lie to everyone that everything went perfectly the way I want it to be? I started this thread to share my experience from start to finish. If this does not pertain to you..

Get the hell out of my thread.

fxroar 11-15-2010 06:45 PM

Also.. Non of this drama would have started if you didn't barge in mt thread and accusing things. Youre damn right I don't know everything about cars but I did not know that this forum is all about. Im CH53 Sheet Metal mechanic and as far as I know thats all im obligated to fully understand since that is my career.

Have you been reading my thread? When was it ever mentioned by ark "if theres anything we can do contact us at blah blah blah".. Not until recently? All I got from them was "those welds will not break".. Seriously.. Wtf..

fullmonty 11-15-2010 07:38 PM

I don't know how the quality for the G37 exhausts are, nor do I care since I don't own one. Now I do own a 370Z with an ARK Type 2 exhaust, which from day one has been flawless. The fit and finish was superb, and the welds looked great. There was no scratches, scuffs ect.. on the product. The sound is second to none. Is ARK infailable? No of course not, so maybe they shipped out a crappy exhaust. It happens, sucks if you happen to get the mistake. Complaining about scratches on an exhaust hanger after you had already put the damn exhaust on is pointless... I could see taking exception to the welds as those are not purely cosmetic. If you get a crappy product, and this is for any product, contact the company, work with them, and send it back. Don't install it and start bitching. In my experience, and that of many others, ARK has a great exhaust.

Znatic09 11-15-2010 08:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joseph B (Post 810460)
It's too bad that nowadays people who know nothing about cars are allowed to post on forums and rant about companies who will not/cannot defend themselves publicly here.

You think you got a bad product?

Step one: Don't put it on! Call the company, tell them your issue. Then you will get an answer on what they will do for you. If then you are not happy and feel you are being jerked around, then come here and post! It doesn't seem like you did that. It seems like you rode the anxiety/panic wave from an unhappy G37 post and expanded on it.

Are you serious? You think an exhaust is turning your check engine light on? You could take your exhaust off after the cat and the ECU wouldn't know.

It's to bad that people act like this on the forums. Coming on here and complaining that you are not happy for the world to see, hoping that ARK is going to step in. All along you haven't even contacted the company you bought it from to see if they can do anything?

and all the people jumping on the bandwagon, dissapointing.

I do agree with you on the whole not talking with the companies first to see if they can help you out....but on the people being allowed to post on forums even if they know nothing about cars I do not agree one bit. Not trying to start any arguements here...but I thought these forums was kind of one way for us to talk and learn about cars wether it's modding or a maintenance issue. I myself know basics but if you go into very technical talk, then I am lost. So please if I am looking at this all wrong, then I must not be in the wrong forum.....Just my thoughts.

cookies370z 11-15-2010 11:12 PM

I can see where FXRoar is coming from about the welds near the tips from the pictures. From the pictures it's not pleasant to look at. You can tell the welding was done by hand near the tips/muffler are. Maybe to make it stronger??? The welding on the muffler caps and flow pipes looks good. Maybe needs some polishing on the welds??

cookies370z 11-15-2010 11:14 PM

FullMonty, how long have you had your exhaust for?? Any drone?? I do love the sound of the ARK exhaust, deep and aggressive!!

phelan 11-15-2010 11:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cookies370z (Post 811010)
I can see where FXRoar is coming from about the welds near the tips from the pictures. From the pictures it's not pleasant to look at. You can tell the welding was done by hand near the tips/muffler are. Maybe to make it stronger??? The welding on the muffler caps and flow pipes looks good. Maybe needs some polishing on the welds??

Those are machined welds.

tl;dr version of this thread - fxroar, hope you can get it sorted out with ARK, whatever the solution may be. :tup:

destinyZ 11-16-2010 04:26 AM

LMAO...gas cap.

Forums are for ppl to ask questions whenever they have a problem and for enthusiasts to get together and talk about there car. Vendors are kind of the perk of being on a forum, giving extra discounts and is a good way to create a relationship with vendors who specialize in that certain brand/car. Why do you think ppl post threads on DIY like oil and tranny fluid changes...so ppl who dont know can save money and do it themselves.

You guys seriously need to calm down, it's the internet plus your messing with your rep on the forum with other memebers. I didnt know you never contacted ARK...probably should have done that first but regardless, the comments ARK made on their very first post were not the best. I was not worried about the scratches, that will not be seen, but the welds are what made me tell OP to return it. I have much faith in ARK, that is why I bought from them. I also like how their exhaust sounds.

It makes sence that OP wanted to make a thread from recieving the package to installing to hopefully sound and dyno videos. He posted up and complained well before installing the exhaust. I don't agree that he still installed it but I guess in the end he didn't mind that much. If he is not having any issues with it and has no plans in returning it then GL to him but I would have call ARK and gotten a new exhaust. I don't think bashing ARK was EVER intended but other ppl started to make fairly unessessary comments about ARK. Only thing I said was that mine better be perfect and thats just because I shipped overseas to Guam and that wasn't very cheap.

***OP if there are no issues and you are not returning the exhaust plz go head and post up vids. Dyno results are not really nessessary, your not really getting much until you remove the cats.

Like I said before, relax everyone...we are here to conversate yelltyping(whatever you call it) isnt going to do anything but make you look bad. I honestly laughed at all the "yelling" :)

fullmonty 11-16-2010 07:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cookies370z (Post 811013)
FullMonty, how long have you had your exhaust for?? Any drone?? I do love the sound of the ARK exhaust, deep and aggressive!!

I've had mine since April, and put a good 5,000 miles on it. When you first get it, it will drone a bit and be fairly loud. A nice sound none the less. Once it gets broken in a little, the volume will go down and the drone will disappear. It will be deep, throaty, and aggressive. It makes the car sound like a sports car. It sounds like a higher end porsche, would be a way to describe it. I've gotten numerous compliments. Its a great exhaust, and a perfect balance in terms of sound, not to loud, not to soft, just right. None of the videos posted give it justice, in real life it sounds like the videos, but just better.

christian370z 11-16-2010 12:28 PM

Monty: do you have HFCs or test pipes by chance?

fullmonty 11-16-2010 07:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by christian370z (Post 811610)
Monty: do you have HFCs or test pipes by chance?

Negtive to the test pipes and HFC. I have the stock cats still

destinyZ 11-16-2010 09:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fullmonty (Post 812193)
Negtive to the test pipes and HFC. I have the stock cats still

I think he asked cuz someone was complaining about a whistle/woot noise from the x-pipe with HFC or TP's, i'm not sure, on another thread and returned it. He said it was really bad and put up a video but i couldnt really hear it. I am still waiting on the exhaust (hope it didnt get lost in shipping) but I have recieved my TP's and headers so i'll do a thread and video on that whenever the CBE gets here.

destinyZ 11-16-2010 09:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fullmonty (Post 812193)
Negtive to the test pipes and HFC. I have the stock cats still

I think christian asked that because someone was complaining about a whistle/woot noise from the x-pipe with HFC or TP's, i'm not sure, on another thread and returned it. He said it was really bad and put up a video but i couldnt really hear it. I am still waiting on the exhaust (hope it didnt get lost in shipping) but I have recieved my TP's and headers so i'll do a thread and video on that whenever the CBE gets here.

BalanBro 11-16-2010 10:17 PM

Yes, the noise is present with HFC's. It is basically the trademark hiss, but eminating from under the car rather than the tailpipe.

I kinda have this theory that it may be escaping through the flex joints. I would like to try welding a straight piece of pipe there instead, but I don't want to chop up my exhaust only to find out that I am wrong.

GoGo370z 11-16-2010 10:35 PM

Then it should cause the same noise when its just the catback installed. I have heard the exhaust in person with just the catback. No hiss or Rasp..

In addition, The berk exhaust which does not have a Flex joint still produces the hiss.

cookies370z 11-17-2010 12:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fullmonty (Post 811207)
I've had mine since April, and put a good 5,000 miles on it. When you first get it, it will drone a bit and be fairly loud. A nice sound none the less. Once it gets broken in a little, the volume will go down and the drone will disappear. It will be deep, throaty, and aggressive. It makes the car sound like a sports car. It sounds like a higher end porsche, would be a way to describe it. I've gotten numerous compliments. Its a great exhaust, and a perfect balance in terms of sound, not to loud, not to soft, just right. None of the videos posted give it justice, in real life it sounds like the videos, but just better.

Thanks for your input. I will be ordering the ARK exhaust very soon. :driving:

destinyZ 11-17-2010 05:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GoGo370z (Post 812352)
Then it should cause the same noise when its just the catback installed. I have heard the exhaust in person with just the catback. No hiss or Rasp..

In addition, The berk exhaust which does not have a Flex joint still produces the hiss.

Well the theory is that the extra exhaust being able to flow through the HFC/TP's into the xpipe is y the noise is present and you will not hear it with the stock cats.

Someone mentioned using heat wrap/thermowrap on the xpipe and it limited/removed the noise...but thats rumor, the person had heard that from another person :/

fxroar 11-17-2010 08:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cookies370z (Post 812403)
Thanks for your input. I will be ordering the ARK exhaust very soon. :driving:

Honestly, if there's no cosmetic problems on yours.. You will enjoy this exhaust a lot. Members question me why I installed the exhaust even when I was unhappy with how they came in.. Here is my reasoning..

- I want to see if there will be any leak. As of today with loads of WOT there NO LEAK. Ive checked multiple times.
- don't want to have to return and absorb the restocking fee plus the hastle of packing and sending is not my thing.
- the most important of all.. I'm very happy with the exhaust note. It's loud and aggressive when you want to and surprisingly quite during cruising.

Quote:

Originally Posted by fullmonty (Post 811207)
I've had mine since April, and put a good 5,000 miles on it. When you first get it, it will drone a bit and be fairly loud. A nice sound none the less. Once it gets broken in a little, the volume will go down and the drone will disappear. It will be deep, throaty, and aggressive. It makes the car sound like a sports car. It sounds like a higher end porsche, would be a way to describe it. I've gotten numerous compliments. Its a great exhaust, and a perfect balance in terms of sound, not to loud, not to soft, just right. None of the videos posted give it justice, in real life it sounds like the videos, but just better.

^That too :tup:

Overall.. I AM a SATISFIED Ark customer. I haven't made contact and do not feel the need to as, like I said above, I am content with what I got. I posted pics to share.. Definitly NOT to stir things up around the forum nor to get back to ARK.

For those who understood where I was coming from, thank you. It's always nice to know there are others that stand up for me while I was getting accused of many things.

Anyways.. Let's end the drama here. Let's keep this thread up for updates of those who choose to contribute on their experience with the Ark exhaust.. And of course DEFINITELY NEED DYNO SHEETS!

If there's anybody around SD that wants to see/hear/feel? (lol) the exhaust.. Shoot me a PM. I'll be more than happy to drive you around :icon17:

TeamARK 11-17-2010 10:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fxroar (Post 813583)
Honestly, if there's no cosmetic problems on yours.. You will enjoy this exhaust a lot. Members question me why I installed the exhaust even when I was unhappy with how they came in.. Here is my reasoning..

- I want to see if there will be any leak. As of today with loads of WOT there NO LEAK. Ive checked multiple times.
- don't want to have to return and absorb the restocking fee plus the hastle of packing and sending is not my thing.
- the most important of all.. I'm very happy with the exhaust note. It's loud and aggressive when you want to and surprisingly quite during cruising.



^That too :tup:

Overall.. I AM a SATISFIED Ark customer. I haven't made contact and do not feel the need to as, like I said above, I am content with what I got. I posted pics to share.. Definitly NOT to stir things up around the forum nor to get back to ARK.

For those who understood where I was coming from, thank you. It's always nice to know there are others that stand up for me while I was getting accused of many things.

Anyways.. Let's end the drama here. Let's keep this thread up for updates of those who choose to contribute on their experience with the Ark exhaust.. And of course DEFINITELY NEED DYNO SHEETS!

If there's anybody around SD that wants to see/hear/feel? (lol) the exhaust.. Shoot me a PM. I'll be more than happy to drive you around :icon17:


Thank you for concluding this in such a mature and professional fashion. I just wanted to point out one thing. If there was a problem, you are not responsible for restocking fees and such.

Alex

destinyZ 11-18-2010 05:06 AM

^^^he's happy=no issue :) glad to hear there are no leaks! Still waiting on my CBE...overseas shipping is a pain in the ***

TeamARK 11-18-2010 03:47 PM

Due to its demand, We had one of these specifically made to see how it would look like.

Comments and Suggestions are welcome. BTW, these are for sale. We had 15 of these made.

http://i613.photobucket.com/albums/t...s/b315197d.jpg

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detroadster 11-18-2010 06:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TeamARK (Post 814746)
Due to its demand, We had one of these specifically made to see how it would look like.

Comments and Suggestions are welcome. BTW, these are for sale. We had 15 of these made.

http://i613.photobucket.com/albums/t...s/b315197d.jpg

Only 14 left...Mine just left ARK on the Fed-Ex truck this afternoon!:tup:

Thanks to Sean at ARK for tipping me off to the full polished option. Can't wait to get it!

Trips 11-18-2010 08:11 PM

TeamArk, Welcome as a Sponsor, and Thank You For Your Support. :tiphat:
Great Looking Exhaust btw! I hope to hear this at a local meet someday. :tup:

daisuke149 11-18-2010 09:18 PM

That looks sweet as heck Ark.

GoGo370z 11-18-2010 10:53 PM

Very classy.

ArirangZ 11-19-2010 12:41 AM

Nice product. Looks solid piece

My friend ( NSX) has ARK exhaust system installed more than 4years, and sounds like a Acura Ferrari. ^ ^

Good job ARK. Sponsor me.

Jamaica 11-19-2010 12:42 AM

I wonder why the first exhaust looks different from the exhaust ark posted up

cookies370z 11-19-2010 12:57 AM

I just placed an order with ARK. Alex thanks for your help!! I can't wait to receive my exhaust!!!


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