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Endgame 08-23-2010 09:05 AM

So I just installed my K&N high flow filters. If I am in first or second gear and rev up to a out ohhhh.. 3k rpm then let the rpms fall while driving, i hear an odd hissing/sucking sound. I can't tell if this is due to my PowerHouse Amuse exhaust or the K&Ns.

Any thoughts? SORRY to derail....

ProfessorDave 08-23-2010 09:44 AM

Sounds like the normal sound you get with the K&N (and probably other intake set ups as well). Personally, the improved sound (including those you describe Endgame) is the main reason to add better flowing filters.

Endgame 08-23-2010 09:45 AM

COOL!! I like the sound, just wanted to make sure it was normal...

kenchan 08-23-2010 04:51 PM

so wat's the verdict?

OEM vs HKS drop-ins vs K&N drop-ins?

im still on stocks... not very convinced HKS or K&N will make any difference...

WarmAndSCSI 08-23-2010 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 690034)
so wat's the verdict?

OEM vs HKS drop-ins vs K&N drop-ins?

im still on stocks... not very convinced HKS or K&N will make any difference...

I'm weary of K&N drop-ins because we have hot-wire MAF's and I've had 2 destroyed in my Evo due to an oiled filter.

I think a smooth intake tube + new filter will make roughly 10 WHP. I'll dyno it next month. The AFE filters are sounding pretty good, but HKS filtration is more than sufficient.

ProfessorDave 08-23-2010 07:23 PM

I like K&N for the re-usability, improved sound and improved air flow. I never over oil them. I've not tried some of the other solutions discussed here, though.

I have to say the the stock filters were better than most. And the intake system is well designed for a stock set up. Obviously, others have improved on it. But compared to most of the restrictive systems on other cars, the Z's is a breath of fresh air (that's an intake joke, by the way).

kenchan 08-23-2010 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by WarmAndSCSI (Post 690131)
I'm weary of K&N drop-ins because we have hot-wire MAF's and I've had 2 destroyed in my Evo due to an oiled filter.

I think a smooth intake tube + new filter will make roughly 10 WHP. I'll dyno it next month. The AFE filters are sounding pretty good, but HKS filtration is more than sufficient.

Sounds good. Keep us posted on your experiment.

Professordave- complete agree that the stock setup is pretty sufficient. I ran scanguage IAT and it was better than expected. As far as cool air its plenty good... I just want to improve the filters if there's room.

Zsteve 08-23-2010 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by WarmAndSCSI (Post 690131)
I'm weary of K&N drop-ins because we have hot-wire MAF's and I've had 2 destroyed in my Evo due to an oiled filter.

I think a smooth intake tube + new filter will make roughly 10 WHP. I'll dyno it next month. The AFE filters are sounding pretty good, but HKS filtration is more than sufficient.

A slightly wider MAF section like what Modshack is doing will net you some gains. I think you will get a few HP from better flowing filters but not sure about smoothing out the intake tubes, I dont think the air gets too turbulent to begin with. But who knows.

LOU@AMPLIFIED 08-23-2010 09:32 PM

Drop in filters won't do a whole lot when it comes to HP, they are designed to slightly improve airflow but the biggest benefit is that you can reuse them instead of buying a new oem every 10k miles

WarmAndSCSI 08-23-2010 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Zsteve (Post 690536)
A slightly wider MAF section like what Modshack is doing will net you some gains. I think you will get a few HP from better flowing filters but not sure about smoothing out the intake tubes, I dont think the air gets too turbulent to begin with. But who knows.

The only thing larger MAF housings on a car that already has 2 ~2.5" housings will gain is a leaner mixture. Without re-scaling your MAF within the ECU ROM, it's just going to lean out your mixture - which will net you some nice gains on the stock tune. Think about the surface area of 2 separate housings. That's massive to begin with - compare that to what has been accomplished with just one MAF and throttle body on the non-HR 350Z.

Even Evo guys are fine with the single ~2.75" MAF which is pre-turbo (non-compressed) until 600 WHP or so. After then, it causes a measurable restriction.

kenchan 08-24-2010 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by LOU@AMPLIFIED (Post 690598)
Drop in filters won't do a whole lot when it comes to HP, they are designed to slightly improve airflow but the biggest benefit is that you can reuse them instead of buying a new oem every 10k miles

yah, this is where i keep ending up... i cant see myself spending extra over stock filters for a freer breathing filter that cant really translate any more than a few hp improvement. such small change (like 3-4whp) is like the difference between driving in a humid or dry morning.


anyone try with the ARC intake tube yet? :)

ArtVandaleigh 08-25-2010 09:28 AM

I've been using the HKS filters with Cobb tubes for a bit now. Sound is more pronounced, and response is much better than stock. No idea on any power numbers but it's a fair improvement for driveability. I'd be willing to try the AFE filters next after these wear down.


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