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ZforMe 03-01-2009 10:34 PM

Would anyone ever consider Nitrous?
 
Just curious what everyone's opinion is about NOS. I found what would seem like a simple kit. HP to $$ is obviously very high.

Zex: '07-Current Nissan 350Z Nitrous Kit

frost 03-01-2009 10:55 PM

If you're into 1/4 racing, why not? Cheap yet powerful.

kdo2milger 03-02-2009 05:31 AM

it would definately get us in the 400 whp range with all bolt ons..

i consider nitrous a bolt on.

RCZ 03-02-2009 05:29 PM

umm, if I had a big turbo setup I might use NOS to help spool quicker.

tvfreakazoid 03-02-2009 05:40 PM

No bueno!

ssqpolo 03-02-2009 06:53 PM

ya man...why not. just dont go over a 75 shot and dont miss a shift!

MightyBobo 03-05-2009 06:31 PM

I think NOS is a great brand. Although, I preferred Nitrous Express.

frost 03-05-2009 07:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ssqpolo (Post 37774)
ya man...why not. just dont go over a 75 shot and dont miss a shift!

I believe with the kits these days, those shifting worries are over. Nowadays they cut off unless you're on it if you buy the good kits.
Staying at a 75 shot does seem like a reasonable idea, I probably wouldnt push more than that, definitely not more than 100 without upgrades.

MightyBobo 03-05-2009 11:23 PM

Two words: Window Switch

4 more words: Fuel Pressure Safety Switch

Crash 03-06-2009 03:00 AM

Nitrous is perfectly safe... You can do a 150 shot on these blocks. You don't need bolt ons, but remember, you need bottle pressure. Like Mighty said, Fuel Pressure Safety Switch!

Nitrous is the cheapest horse power out there. And readily available all over the place. You can use 4 tethered 2.5Lbs bottles for maximum pressure and kick butt with it. A 100 shot is safe, but remember people, HP kills.

I may be getting a bottle too. But mine will be "Hush hush".

MightyBobo 03-06-2009 08:30 AM

I dont think the block is anything to worry about on a 150 shot. I'd be more worried about the bottom end, myself. That may potentially be a lot of stress to put on the stock, un-forged bottom end. LS1's can easily do a 150 shot, but a staged setup is better (starting at, say, 75, bumping up to a 150 after a certain RPM) to reduce the shock on the bottom end. I think a 150 shot would be a LOT to subject this motor to in stock form, and potentially dangerous until its been proven it MIGHT be able to handle it.

I guess the long and short is, I wouldn't run more than a 75 on stock tune, and no more than a 100 tuned until you start hearing stories about people blowing their bottom end due to stupidity. ESPECIALLY a dry shot, too - who knows how this fuel system will handle it, particularly with direct injection...

kdo2milger 03-06-2009 08:42 AM

is there enough room to hide a bottle where the spare tire is?

Crash 03-06-2009 08:41 PM

I agree. The stock bottom end will handle 500HP with FI, so 150 will be fine at higher RPM. You're right, a staged setup would be better. 75 is reasonable for the low RPM.

MightyBobo 03-07-2009 12:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Crash (Post 39953)
I agree. The stock bottom end will handle 500HP with FI, so 150 will be fine at higher RPM. You're right, a staged setup would be better. 75 is reasonable for the low RPM.

Oh, I dont doubt that it can handle 500 HP FI - but theres a difference between a steady increase in power from turbo's spooling and whatnot, versus slamming an extra 150 horsepower down the motor's throat all of a sudden - its not hard to cause some nasty damage due to the shock effect :). Staged 75-150 would probably be perfectly safe, though.

Crash 03-07-2009 02:32 AM

^^^ Yeah. That's what I was saying...

MightyBobo 03-07-2009 06:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Crash (Post 40067)
^^^ Yeah. That's what I was saying...

Kk, just making sure you werent stating something like, "Oh, it can take 150 HP of boost - 150 wet shot ought to be the same right?".

Just making sure we're on the same page heh.

Celinicus 04-24-2009 01:45 AM

Reviving an old thread... :)

Those that are considering nitrous, where were you thinking of mounting the bottle?

MightyBobo 04-24-2009 05:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Celinicus (Post 62177)
Reviving an old thread... :)

Those that are considering nitrous, where were you thinking of mounting the bottle?

If I did it, probably in the spot behind the passenger seat. Either that, or just mount it directly center of the car right behind the bar behind the seats. Of course, you could take your spare out and theres TONS of room under there to hide it and put a remote bottle opener on it...

Celinicus 04-24-2009 11:05 AM

I'm not completely sure on this, but don't bottles have an optimum mounting angle?

MightyBobo 04-24-2009 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Celinicus (Post 62333)
I'm not completely sure on this, but don't bottles have an optimum mounting angle?

Angled with the valve up, and the valve twords the front of the car.

But, I ran mine valve up, and the valve to the side of the car in my 2000 with no issues at all. Valve up is the most important Im fairly sure.

wstar 04-24-2009 11:28 AM

Nitrous sounds fun, but I'm not willing to take those kinds of risks on my 370. Aside from the risks when everything is working flawlessly (just getting the tune and the shot right so that you don't destroy stuff) there are so many risks from minor failures, hence all the safety devices like throttle switches, fuel pressure switches, window switches and all that jazz. It's just not great odds. Would I do it to a 70's musclecar rebuild project that I had a few grand in? Hell yes. My new 370Z? Hell no.

Celinicus 04-24-2009 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by wstar (Post 62348)
Nitrous sounds fun, but I'm not willing to take those kinds of risks on my 370. Aside from the risks when everything is working flawlessly (just getting the tune and the shot right so that you don't destroy stuff) there are so many risks from minor failures, hence all the safety devices like throttle switches, fuel pressure switches, window switches and all that jazz. It's just not great odds. Would I do it to a 70's musclecar rebuild project that I had a few grand in? Hell yes. My new 370Z? Hell no.

I'm inclined to agree with you on this one. I would only consider nitrous if I was staying NA and never going FI. If i was driving with twin snails and a 100 shot I'd be so nervous everytime the engine maybe even the slightest weird sound. Even staying NA, I would spare no expense to make sure the set up was as "bullet-proof" as possible.

I just like the idea of cheap, fast power, but we all know where that road often leads.

MightyBobo 04-24-2009 11:54 AM

Nitrous can be perfectly safe when used with the proper safety measures in place.

However, this all begs one big question - this car was designed to be a fine handling sports car....why would you want to turn it into a drag queen?

tvfreakazoid 04-25-2009 03:42 AM

Go for it and let us know how it turns out. It may work out great. And whats wrong being a drag Queen?:bowrofl:

MightyBobo 04-25-2009 06:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tvfreakazoid (Post 62861)
Go for it and let us know how it turns out. It may work out great. And whats wrong being a drag Queen?:bowrofl:

Nice catch lol.

frost 04-25-2009 04:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tvfreakazoid (Post 62861)
And whats wrong being a drag Queen?:bowrofl:

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BMW Killa 04-25-2009 04:27 PM

:icon18:

agree with the folks who don't think this is a big deal. I probably wouldn't go over a 75 shot myself, but these systems aren't like they were 10+ years ago. Much safer

NA&CH 04-25-2009 04:29 PM

/\ hahahaha. Just the one I was thinking of.

I would wait till there was a tuning devise. No flash that a tuner can contol. I bet a 370 on N20 would rip and shock many..

Chris

eXo5 04-25-2009 06:57 PM

I would get NAWWZ but I doubt I would use it more than a few times...

BMW Killa 04-25-2009 07:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eXo5 (Post 63112)
I would get NAWWZ but I doubt I would use it more than a few times...

There aren't many times I think to myself "I need to go really fast for a really short amount of time!"

Celinicus 04-25-2009 07:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BMW Killa (Post 63126)
There aren't many times I think to myself "I need to go really fast for a really short amount of time!"

Heh I'm going to refrain from any sorrid comment

BMW Killa 04-25-2009 07:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Celinicus (Post 63137)
Heh I'm going to refrain from any sorrid comment

Since "sorrid" isn't a word, it was probably a good idea that you refrained.

Celinicus 04-25-2009 09:10 PM

Oh I apologize. Sordid was what I was looking for.


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