Mines - VX Air Filter

'10Anamoly · 07-08-2010, 12:32 PM

No problem, I understand about sticking to quality parts. AFE has been around a bit and makes a decent filter. I compared it to the stock filters and its even sturdier than they are so I felt comfortable putting them in.

For the Cobb tubes, doesn't the corrugated tube also reduce noise in the intake along with the flexibility? It's interesting to me that there is a black resonator-looking box on the driver side OEM corrugated intake. It's directly below the side feed for the PCV vent (I think thats what the side connection is). Wonder if this was tuned to keep the intake quieter, not that I dont want to hear the growl.

Zsteve · 07-08-2010, 03:44 PM

Are the Cobb tubes larger than stock? If so, then what may be happening is that you are running a litter more lean now and gaining some power that way, which is good. But when combined with all the other bolt ons you will be running too lean and thats not good. At that point you will need a tune to bring things back in line.

spearfish25 · 07-08-2010, 03:56 PM

I just replaced my OEM drop-ins with a new OEM set. If the K&Ns give minimal gains, I'd rather drop in brand new, clean filters than try to clean the K&Ns every so often. I'll guarantee that my new filters are cleaner than any set of K&Ns that have been used and 'cleaned'.

GZ3 · 07-08-2010, 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by spearfish25

I just replaced my OEM drop-ins with a new OEM set. If the K&Ns give minimal gains, I'd rather drop in brand new, clean filters than try to clean the K&Ns every so often. I'll guarantee that my new filters are cleaner than any set of K&Ns that have been used and 'cleaned'.

they might be cleaner then some cleaned K&N's, but I bet they still dont flow as well

Zsteve · 07-08-2010, 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by GZ3

they might be cleaner then some cleaned K&N's, but I bet they still dont flow as well

true dat. and better throttle response and a few extra hp is worth the $$$.

CBRich · 07-08-2010, 05:08 PM

I definitely agree with your idea of only using dry filters. Those oil filters can cause MAF problems.

Zsteve · 07-08-2010, 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by CBRich

I definitely agree with your idea of only using dry filters. Those oil filters can cause MAF problems.

Ive used them in my last three cars and never had a MAF issue, again I think its a matter of the owner over oiling them when they clean them. But the difference between oil and non oil filters is probably so small it wont matter which one you use as long as it flows good. But the dry ones might not trap stuff as well as the oiled ones. tit for tat I guess.

Josh@STILLEN · 07-08-2010, 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by GTLAW

Hey guys,

I am looking to keep my stock intakes, because they to me are best" unless I want a lot sound coming the front of my car IMO. I am going to keep the stock intakes and build around them, I would like to see what the numbers are after all my updates.

I am looking at replacing the stock OEM air filters, I did not want to go K&N do to Oil and I feel with all the R&D now days they should not still be using oil base filters.

Does anyone have the Mines filters? also I am unable to find any specs on them if they are a dry flow or oil base like K&N.

I believe K&N actually makes the Mine's.. I'm 99% sure they do for the GT-R, just a different colored oil, and on the GT-R they added some metal rings to it, but basically it's a K&N with a hefty price tag on it, and blue oil of course.

hfrog355 · 07-08-2010, 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Josh@STILLEN

I believe K&N actually makes the Mine's.. I'm 99% sure they do for the GT-R, just a different colored oil, and on the GT-R they added some metal rings to it, but basically it's a K&N with a hefty price tag on it, and blue oil of course.

I need to find a product I can make subtle changes to and charge 3x the price. This is a brilliant plan.

spearfish25 · 07-08-2010, 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by GZ3

they might be cleaner then some cleaned K&N's, but I bet they still dont flow as well

Prove it!

Josh@STILLEN · 07-08-2010, 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by CBRich

I definitely agree with your idea of only using dry filters. Those oil filters can cause MAF problems.

Unfortunately this has evolved over the internet as an 'old wives tale'.. and a lot of stories of "my buddy" or "i know a guy who had MAF problems".

K&N has been riddled by this, and has done tremendous testing and have a full department devoted to oil and the effects on the MAF to fight these accusations.

A good read from their site outlining this: K&N Response to Mass Air Flow Sensor Concerns

"Not one of these suspected MAF sensors sent in for laboratory evaluation was shown to have failed due to contamination from K&N filter oil. "

JACKPAC · 07-08-2010, 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by GZ3

they might be cleaner then some cleaned K&N's, but I bet they still dont flow as well

I haven't bought a K&N product in years, but they use to have a graph on the side of the box with their own CFM flow test numbers that demonstrated better flow with the K&N vs. paper, but on the same graph they had a line for reused, or reoiled K&N filters that showed significant flow restriction vs. paper. I tried googling for that graph, but can't find it. I'm pretty sure it was there though.

Zsteve · 07-08-2010, 11:52 PM

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Originally Posted by spearfish25

Prove it!

you prove it. lol I do know that I get 400 GPS with my K&Ns each but I dont know what the stock ones did as I did this with my Cobb AP after zI got the K&Ns. But Im sure the K&Ns have a higher flow rate than stock.

hfrog355 · 08-25-2010, 04:38 PM

I thought this was great:

http://intensepower.com/120.html

07-08-2010, 12:32 PM	#16 (permalink)
'10Anamoly Track Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: GA Posts: 882 Drives: 2010 370Z BS M6 Rep Power: 16	No problem, I understand about sticking to quality parts. AFE has been around a bit and makes a decent filter. I compared it to the stock filters and its even sturdier than they are so I felt comfortable putting them in. For the Cobb tubes, doesn't the corrugated tube also reduce noise in the intake along with the flexibility? It's interesting to me that there is a black resonator-looking box on the driver side OEM corrugated intake. It's directly below the side feed for the PCV vent (I think thats what the side connection is). Wonder if this was tuned to keep the intake quieter, not that I dont want to hear the growl. __________________ 2013 Ford Mustang GT 374rwhp, 360rwtq SAE / GT500 Axle-Backs / Brembo Pack / Track Pack / Recaros / 6spd

07-08-2010, 03:44 PM	#17 (permalink)
Zsteve A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: TX Posts: 3,298 Drives: the 2 balled club Rep Power: 22	Are the Cobb tubes larger than stock? If so, then what may be happening is that you are running a litter more lean now and gaining some power that way, which is good. But when combined with all the other bolt ons you will be running too lean and thats not good. At that point you will need a tune to bring things back in line. __________________ 2010 LS3 C6 Silver coupe corvette

07-08-2010, 03:56 PM	#18 (permalink)
spearfish25 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Naples, FL Posts: 4,117 Drives: to work Rep Power: 1856	I just replaced my OEM drop-ins with a new OEM set. If the K&Ns give minimal gains, I'd rather drop in brand new, clean filters than try to clean the K&Ns every so often. I'll guarantee that my new filters are cleaner than any set of K&Ns that have been used and 'cleaned'. __________________ 2013 Cadillac V-Wagon, RIP Z

08-25-2010, 04:38 PM	#29 (permalink)
hfrog355 Base Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Texas Posts: 213 Drives: 2009 370Z Touring Rep Power: 15	I thought this was great: http://intensepower.com/120.html __________________ 2009 7AT Touring - Black on black VentureShield; F1 Tint; Stealth Signals; LED backup + trunk lights; Stillen HFC; MR Works Headlights; VHT tails; GTR Start Button

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07-08-2010, 05:08 PM	#21 (permalink)
CBRich A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: SC Posts: 2,464 Drives: 370Z Rep Power: 544	I definitely agree with your idea of only using dry filters. Those oil filters can cause MAF problems.