Nissan 370Z Forum  

Berk CBE VS FI CBE

I am thinking between these two brands. I know that FI is well known for customer service, product and all. I just don't have any patient to wait for it.

Go Back   Nissan 370Z Forum > Nissan 370Z Tech Area > Engine & Drivetrain > Intake/Exhaust


Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 07-06-2010, 06:50 PM   #1 (permalink)
Base Member
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Hawaii
Posts: 45
Drives: 09 370Z PW M6
Rep Power: 16
kpyo2000 is on a distinguished road
Default Berk CBE VS FI CBE

I am thinking between these two brands. I know that FI is well known for customer service, product and all. I just don't have any patient to wait for it. The Berk is on sale for $995. Would FI worth the wait or should I go for Berk? I need some advice FI and Berk owners!
kpyo2000 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-06-2010, 07:00 PM   #2 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
Matt's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Augusta, GA
Age: 41
Posts: 1,680
Drives: 2010 Avalanche LT
Rep Power: 19
Matt is just really niceMatt is just really niceMatt is just really niceMatt is just really nice
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by kpyo2000 View Post
I am thinking between these two brands. I know that FI is well known for customer service, product and all. I just don't have any patient to wait for it. The Berk is on sale for $995. Would FI worth the wait or should I go for Berk? I need some advice FI and Berk owners!
You're worried about the F.I. wait, and you're still thinking about choosing Berk?

Berk has people waiting several months currently, and possibly even longer, to get their exhausts. They don't even have a proper ETA when it's being produced, let alone shipped or delivered. Berk is absolutely silent about the whole ordeal, unless they've come out recently and tried to fix the situation.

F.I. has a wait, but nowhere near several months and Tony comes out every week and updates which exhausts are being produced, shipped, and even installed in most cases.

All that being said, Berk and F.I. both produce incredibly sexy sounds. We had a dyno day at Z1 this weekend, and both companies were represented. I had the Berk and NewlyImported had the F.I.. Both sounded amazing, not gonna lie, and there was little difference at 7k RPMs.

Styling is completely different. F.I. has a unmistakenly tuner look, while Berk looks more stock than stock, haha.

If you can't bear to wait, F.I. and Berk may both be bad choices. Stillen, HKS, Invidia, etc. all may be better options.

If you can stand the wait, personally, I think Berk is the best CBE out there. Of course, customer service is dreadful currently.
__________________

"Any man who can drive a 370z while kissing a pretty girl is simply not giving the Z the attention it deserves." Albert Einstein....modified.

Last edited by Matt; 07-06-2010 at 07:03 PM.
Matt is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-06-2010, 07:04 PM   #3 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
Zsteve's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: TX
Posts: 3,298
Drives: the 2 balled club
Rep Power: 22
Zsteve is a splendid one to beholdZsteve is a splendid one to beholdZsteve is a splendid one to beholdZsteve is a splendid one to beholdZsteve is a splendid one to beholdZsteve is a splendid one to beholdZsteve is a splendid one to behold
Default

Fi fi fi fi fi fi fi fi fi fi fi
__________________
2010 LS3 C6 Silver coupe corvette
Zsteve is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-06-2010, 07:05 PM   #4 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
Matt's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Augusta, GA
Age: 41
Posts: 1,680
Drives: 2010 Avalanche LT
Rep Power: 19
Matt is just really niceMatt is just really niceMatt is just really niceMatt is just really nice
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Zsteve View Post
Fi fi fi fi fi fi fi fi fi fi fi
Is that the noise an oscillating fan makes?
__________________

"Any man who can drive a 370z while kissing a pretty girl is simply not giving the Z the attention it deserves." Albert Einstein....modified.
Matt is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-06-2010, 07:09 PM   #5 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
m4a1mustang's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Northern VA
Posts: 55,385
Drives: on two wheels
Rep Power: 6962
m4a1mustang has a reputation beyond reputem4a1mustang has a reputation beyond reputem4a1mustang has a reputation beyond reputem4a1mustang has a reputation beyond reputem4a1mustang has a reputation beyond reputem4a1mustang has a reputation beyond reputem4a1mustang has a reputation beyond reputem4a1mustang has a reputation beyond reputem4a1mustang has a reputation beyond reputem4a1mustang has a reputation beyond reputem4a1mustang has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Yeah dude, save yourself the headache and stay away from Berk. They've disappeared from the forums and people with outstanding orders have no idea when they are supposed to receive their exhausts.
__________________
- Steve
MAZOC Meet Thread
Zs & Coffee - Saturdays at 10AM in Fairfax, VA and Columbia, MD (Click the banner!)
LIKE us on Facebook!
m4a1mustang is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-06-2010, 07:11 PM   #6 (permalink)
Base Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Melbourne
Posts: 209
Drives: Nissan 370Z
Rep Power: 15
EVL370 is on a distinguished road
Default

I was thinking about ordering the Berk system back in April. I was after a more stock looking system. Also the video on you tube of the Berk system sounds great!

However fitment issues, postal issues and a lack of communication reported by other forum members turned me right off. Don't mean to Berk bash, just calling it as reported by all.

There is a reason why everyone picks F.I ( including myself #167).

I'm sure others will post about the premium customer service and the excellent product F.I is known for.
EVL370 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-06-2010, 07:12 PM   #7 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
spearfish25's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Naples, FL
Posts: 4,117
Drives: to work
Rep Power: 1856
spearfish25 has a reputation beyond reputespearfish25 has a reputation beyond reputespearfish25 has a reputation beyond reputespearfish25 has a reputation beyond reputespearfish25 has a reputation beyond reputespearfish25 has a reputation beyond reputespearfish25 has a reputation beyond reputespearfish25 has a reputation beyond reputespearfish25 has a reputation beyond reputespearfish25 has a reputation beyond reputespearfish25 has a reputation beyond repute
Send a message via AIM to spearfish25
Default

Stillen...


__________________
2013 Cadillac V-Wagon, RIP Z
spearfish25 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-06-2010, 07:14 PM   #8 (permalink)
Base Member
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Hawaii
Posts: 45
Drives: 09 370Z PW M6
Rep Power: 16
kpyo2000 is on a distinguished road
Default

thank you gentlemen! I really appreciate all your advice! I'm just gonna wait for Tony. I guess it's worth waiting. Drive safe guys!
kpyo2000 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-06-2010, 07:18 PM   #9 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
Matt's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Augusta, GA
Age: 41
Posts: 1,680
Drives: 2010 Avalanche LT
Rep Power: 19
Matt is just really niceMatt is just really niceMatt is just really niceMatt is just really nice
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by EVL370 View Post
I was thinking about ordering the Berk system back in April. I was after a more stock looking system. Also the video on you tube of the Berk system sounds great!

However fitment issues, postal issues and a lack of communication reported by other forum members turned me right off. Don't mean to Berk bash, just calling it as reported by all.

There is a reason why everyone picks F.I ( including myself #167).

I'm sure others will post about the premium customer service and the excellent product F.I is known for.
In Berk's defense (why am I still defending them????):

Fitment issues: 1 member got shipped 2 of the same side midpipes and another member had some bent hangers. That's it for fitment issues. A couple people reported misaligned tips, but that can be caused by many things including issues during installation and is easily fixed.

Postal issues: The first couple units that went out were shipped in a manner that can only be repeated by a blindfolded 5 year old with no hands. After that, shipping was well done and seamless.


Once they get their production issues fixed (and communication issues), Berk will still be one of the best sounding exhausts out there while retaining the stock look that so many people pursue.
__________________

"Any man who can drive a 370z while kissing a pretty girl is simply not giving the Z the attention it deserves." Albert Einstein....modified.
Matt is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-06-2010, 07:22 PM   #10 (permalink)
Track Member
 
dlmartin81's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Chalfont, PA
Age: 43
Posts: 923
Drives: 09 370Z
Rep Power: 607
dlmartin81 has a reputation beyond reputedlmartin81 has a reputation beyond reputedlmartin81 has a reputation beyond reputedlmartin81 has a reputation beyond reputedlmartin81 has a reputation beyond reputedlmartin81 has a reputation beyond reputedlmartin81 has a reputation beyond reputedlmartin81 has a reputation beyond reputedlmartin81 has a reputation beyond reputedlmartin81 has a reputation beyond reputedlmartin81 has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Another A vs B. Aren't there several threads like this? I'm not trying to be a negasaurus here...just sayin.

Bottom line.....as far as numbers go, BERK and F.I. (or even STILLEN) produce roughly the same performance gains. It's all personal preference from there (i.e. sound, aesthetics, customer service, and one's 'willingness to wait' threshold).

Have at it...
__________________

Dan
F.I. SS CBE 18-R || Llumar 40% tint
dlmartin81 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-06-2010, 07:26 PM   #11 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
m4a1mustang's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Northern VA
Posts: 55,385
Drives: on two wheels
Rep Power: 6962
m4a1mustang has a reputation beyond reputem4a1mustang has a reputation beyond reputem4a1mustang has a reputation beyond reputem4a1mustang has a reputation beyond reputem4a1mustang has a reputation beyond reputem4a1mustang has a reputation beyond reputem4a1mustang has a reputation beyond reputem4a1mustang has a reputation beyond reputem4a1mustang has a reputation beyond reputem4a1mustang has a reputation beyond reputem4a1mustang has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Though I think the Berks are slightly heavier than stock.
__________________
- Steve
MAZOC Meet Thread
Zs & Coffee - Saturdays at 10AM in Fairfax, VA and Columbia, MD (Click the banner!)
LIKE us on Facebook!
m4a1mustang is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-06-2010, 07:26 PM   #12 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
Zsteve's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: TX
Posts: 3,298
Drives: the 2 balled club
Rep Power: 22
Zsteve is a splendid one to beholdZsteve is a splendid one to beholdZsteve is a splendid one to beholdZsteve is a splendid one to beholdZsteve is a splendid one to beholdZsteve is a splendid one to beholdZsteve is a splendid one to behold
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Matt View Post
Is that the noise an oscillating fan makes?
No the noise my HFCs make coming out my FI CBE. lol.
__________________
2010 LS3 C6 Silver coupe corvette
Zsteve is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-06-2010, 07:29 PM   #13 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
Togo's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: E. Northport, NY
Posts: 7,597
Drives: Stuff
Rep Power: 657
Togo has a reputation beyond reputeTogo has a reputation beyond reputeTogo has a reputation beyond reputeTogo has a reputation beyond reputeTogo has a reputation beyond reputeTogo has a reputation beyond reputeTogo has a reputation beyond reputeTogo has a reputation beyond reputeTogo has a reputation beyond reputeTogo has a reputation beyond reputeTogo has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Stillen is heavier than stock
__________________
This will decimate all after you put about fifteen grand in it or more, and if we have to, overnight parts from Japan.

Joe Clem and Koeppel Nissan
Togo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-06-2010, 07:36 PM   #14 (permalink)
Track Member
 
Dembflyr's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Indiana
Posts: 886
Drives: G37S Sedan
Rep Power: 16
Dembflyr is a name known to allDembflyr is a name known to allDembflyr is a name known to allDembflyr is a name known to allDembflyr is a name known to allDembflyr is a name known to all
Default

I am one of those waiting for the Berk CBE. I placed my order in mid April and was told 40 days.

With little to no communication from Berk, the only way to get info was to call and bother them then post on here to let others know what you had been told. Several of us have been communicating on here through PM and post's. We have found out that the production problems have been corrected and we should start to see some systems being shipped out. One member has been told that all in the second group buy should have their systems shipped by the end of July. We will see.

With all of that said, the reason that I am being patient is because the Berk CBE has exactly the sound and look that I want. I also have to respect that once they realized there was an issue they stopped production right away. But even getting this information was like pulling teeth.

It boggles the mind as to why Berk would ruin its reputation with 370z owners by not even trying to fix their customer service issues. Actually their customer service is nonexistent.

I have no doubt that I will be happy with my purchase. However, as I have said before, I will not be purchasing any future products from Berk.
__________________
2012 G37S Sedan 6MT - Project Practicality

2009-6MT-Sport/Touring-Dembflyr's Journal-TT Build Thread-CAR IS SOLD

Last edited by Dembflyr; 07-06-2010 at 07:40 PM.
Dembflyr is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-06-2010, 07:37 PM   #15 (permalink)
Enthusiast Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Ronkonkoma, NY
Posts: 339
Drives: 2010 PG Roadster
Rep Power: 402
craniac24 has a reputation beyond reputecraniac24 has a reputation beyond reputecraniac24 has a reputation beyond reputecraniac24 has a reputation beyond reputecraniac24 has a reputation beyond reputecraniac24 has a reputation beyond reputecraniac24 has a reputation beyond reputecraniac24 has a reputation beyond reputecraniac24 has a reputation beyond reputecraniac24 has a reputation beyond reputecraniac24 has a reputation beyond repute
Send a message via AIM to craniac24
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by spearfish25 View Post
Stillen...


__________________
2010 6MT PG Roadster w/Sport & NAV.
Stillen Exhaust, Stillen GIII Intake, Eibach Springs, H&R Spacers 15f/20r, SPC Rear Camber Kit. Thanks to Vinny Ten Racing!
craniac24 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Berk hfc/berk cbe vs berk hfc/stillen exhaust xbigb4ller69z Intake/Exhaust 21 04-11-2010 04:35 AM
Fs- berk nfc racerxj17 Parts for sale (Private Classifieds) 8 11-22-2009 08:59 PM
Berk hfc B1nks Parts for sale (Private Classifieds) 9 09-28-2009 09:31 PM
Berk HFC or Berk Test Pipes? bobby8621 Intake/Exhaust 16 06-24-2009 06:48 PM
Redline Time Attack Results are in! DDM 370Z, BERK S2000 & BERK BMW 135i on track! BerkTech Track / Autocross / Drifting / Dragstrip 8 04-02-2009 12:37 PM


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 11:39 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0 PL2