Berk CBE VS FI CBE

Togo · 07-06-2010, 06:29 PM

Stillen is heavier than stock

Dembflyr · 07-06-2010, 06:36 PM

I am one of those waiting for the Berk CBE. I placed my order in mid April and was told 40 days.

With little to no communication from Berk, the only way to get info was to call and bother them then post on here to let others know what you had been told. Several of us have been communicating on here through PM and post's. We have found out that the production problems have been corrected and we should start to see some systems being shipped out. One member has been told that all in the second group buy should have their systems shipped by the end of July. We will see.

With all of that said, the reason that I am being patient is because the Berk CBE has exactly the sound and look that I want. I also have to respect that once they realized there was an issue they stopped production right away. But even getting this information was like pulling teeth.

It boggles the mind as to why Berk would ruin its reputation with 370z owners by not even trying to fix their customer service issues. Actually their customer service is nonexistent.

I have no doubt that I will be happy with my purchase. However, as I have said before, I will not be purchasing any future products from Berk.

BOLIO 671 · 07-06-2010, 07:02 PM

Both Stillen and Berk are heavier than stock...

It seems that you've made up your mind already..but it all comes down to what you want...

If you want something quick, then I will tell you that FI and Berk aren't for you..You're better off going off with another brand...If you're willing to wait for a customed exhaust then you would have to ask yourself how long you're willing to wait...If time is an issue for you, then you are better going with FI...If Customer Service is important to you, then you are better going off with FI...Their looks and sound is nice and I like it compared to others out there, their great communication and customer service adds the icing on the cake...

I however could not forget about the stock/sleeper look and sound of the Berks..Therefore I went for Berks...I ordered since early March this year and had my order pushed back several times...There are others that ordered since January of this year that are in the same boat as me...New word is that we're going to be getting them this month...As far as the exhaust goes, Berk's did it for me as far as sound and performance...but this is a personal preference....Their customer service is bad and their communication with their customers is even worse...They have totally cut themselves from the forum so I really don't know what's going on with Berks...I've accepted these facts and just can't wait to get my exhaust...Especially after hearing one in person...I've also heard the FI in person...and both are just as good...Berks just had a better tone that suited my preference, but not by much....Matt posted a good point, if they improved ont their customer service and communication then they would be up there...

Z1804 · 07-06-2010, 07:09 PM

The Boombop Shop Exhaust is pretty nice. Matt is right, the Berk sounds great. However, customer service is non-existent. As far as FI goes, Viera got an increase of 13 hp with just the CBE. Below is the exhaust I decided to go with. Production should begin in 2-4 weeks. That's what I've been told. They are much more responsive then Berk. I'm still waiting to hear back from Berk from when I was interested in their CBE.

I'm supposed to receive mine in a couple of weeks. We'll see.......

Daishi · 07-07-2010, 09:24 AM

If you want to keep a low profile go with the CF mufflers from FI. You wont see the big shiny canisters from behind the car. Just the real nice tips on the exhaust. You cant go wrong with the Customer service tony provides along with the quality and sound of the exhaust.

'10Anamoly · 07-07-2010, 09:29 AM

I'm wondering why the warranty on F.I.'s Carbon Fiber mufflers is only 1 year vs the 3 year warranty for the Stainless Mufflers. Are the Carbon Fiber's expected to not last as long? I like the look of them but stuff like that on the website makes me question why they specify the difference. I'm sure the piping would be fine for the life of the car, just the mufflers I wonder. Anyone have input on the warranty difference (not bashing, just curious)?

Daishi · 07-07-2010, 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by '10Anamoly

I'm wondering why the warranty on F.I.'s Carbon Fiber mufflers is only 1 year vs the 3 year warranty for the Stainless Mufflers. Are the Carbon Fiber's expected to not last as long? I like the look of them but stuff like that on the website makes me question why they specify the difference. I'm sure the piping would be fine for the life of the car, just the mufflers I wonder. Anyone have input on the warranty difference (not bashing, just curious)?

Its not that the CF wont last as long, It should last the life of the vehicle if you clean it and take care of it. Its just more sensitive than the SS thats all.

URNEXT! · 07-07-2010, 09:44 AM

I just ordered the Berk CBE and high flow cats through Fail Safe Performance last week. I was told the exhaust was a 3 - 4 week wait but I can honestly say if my order goes beyond that I will cancel it. Even at $995, the great price won't justify garbage customer service but I remain optimistic and willing to give Berk a chance.

craniac24 · 07-07-2010, 05:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by URNEXT!

I just ordered the Berk CBE and high flow cats through Fail Safe Performance last week. I was told the exhaust was a 3 - 4 week wait but I can honestly say if my order goes beyond that I will cancel it. Even at $995, the great price won't justify garbage customer service but I remain optimistic and willing to give Berk a chance.

'10Anamoly · 07-07-2010, 05:46 PM

Daishi, do you have a sound clip of your exhaust setup? Would love to hear the FI carbon fiber exhaust with the longtubes!

XwChriswX · 07-07-2010, 06:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by '10Anamoly

Daishi, do you have a sound clip of your exhaust setup? Would love to hear the FI carbon fiber exhaust with the longtubes!

+1!!! LoL

efuseakay · 07-07-2010, 11:18 AM

I waited a little over 2 months for a FI CBE for my G sedan. I do not regret it. Not one bit.

07-06-2010, 06:29 PM	#1 (permalink)
Togo A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2009 Location: E. Northport, NY Posts: 7,597 Drives: Stuff Rep Power: 657	Stillen is heavier than stock __________________ This will decimate all after you put about fifteen grand in it or more, and if we have to, overnight parts from Japan. Joe Clem and Koeppel Nissan

07-06-2010, 06:36 PM	#2 (permalink)
Dembflyr Track Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Indiana Posts: 886 Drives: G37S Sedan Rep Power: 17	I am one of those waiting for the Berk CBE. I placed my order in mid April and was told 40 days. With little to no communication from Berk, the only way to get info was to call and bother them then post on here to let others know what you had been told. Several of us have been communicating on here through PM and post's. We have found out that the production problems have been corrected and we should start to see some systems being shipped out. One member has been told that all in the second group buy should have their systems shipped by the end of July. We will see. With all of that said, the reason that I am being patient is because the Berk CBE has exactly the sound and look that I want. I also have to respect that once they realized there was an issue they stopped production right away. But even getting this information was like pulling teeth. It boggles the mind as to why Berk would ruin its reputation with 370z owners by not even trying to fix their customer service issues. Actually their customer service is nonexistent. I have no doubt that I will be happy with my purchase. However, as I have said before, I will not be purchasing any future products from Berk. __________________ 2012 G37S Sedan 6MT - Project Practicality 2009-6MT-Sport/Touring-Dembflyr's Journal-TT Build Thread-CAR IS SOLD Last edited by Dembflyr; 07-06-2010 at 06:40 PM.

07-06-2010, 07:02 PM	#3 (permalink)
BOLIO 671 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: GUAHAN Posts: 1,198 Drives: To & From then Back Rep Power: 3400	Both Stillen and Berk are heavier than stock... It seems that you've made up your mind already..but it all comes down to what you want... If you want something quick, then I will tell you that FI and Berk aren't for you..You're better off going off with another brand...If you're willing to wait for a customed exhaust then you would have to ask yourself how long you're willing to wait...If time is an issue for you, then you are better going with FI...If Customer Service is important to you, then you are better going off with FI...Their looks and sound is nice and I like it compared to others out there, their great communication and customer service adds the icing on the cake... I however could not forget about the stock/sleeper look and sound of the Berks..Therefore I went for Berks...I ordered since early March this year and had my order pushed back several times...There are others that ordered since January of this year that are in the same boat as me...New word is that we're going to be getting them this month...As far as the exhaust goes, Berk's did it for me as far as sound and performance...but this is a personal preference....Their customer service is bad and their communication with their customers is even worse...They have totally cut themselves from the forum so I really don't know what's going on with Berks...I've accepted these facts and just can't wait to get my exhaust...Especially after hearing one in person...I've also heard the FI in person...and both are just as good...Berks just had a better tone that suited my preference, but not by much....Matt posted a good point, if they improved ont their customer service and communication then they would be up there... __________________ 2013 Nismo Z34 / FI TT #091 / IG: @lilzilla_z34

07-06-2010, 07:09 PM	#4 (permalink)
Z1804 Premium Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: GA Posts: 784 Drives: 2009 370Z Sport M6 Rep Power: 16	The Boombop Shop Exhaust is pretty nice. Matt is right, the Berk sounds great. However, customer service is non-existent. As far as FI goes, Viera got an increase of 13 hp with just the CBE. Below is the exhaust I decided to go with. Production should begin in 2-4 weeks. That's what I've been told. They are much more responsive then Berk. I'm still waiting to hear back from Berk from when I was interested in their CBE. I'm supposed to receive mine in a couple of weeks. We'll see....... __________________ Z1804 ------ Z1804 ------ Z1804 ------ ------ Z1804 ------ Z1804 ------ Z1804 Fairlady Z 2011 Calendar Now on Sale!!! Last edited by Z1804; 07-06-2010 at 07:47 PM.

07-07-2010, 09:24 AM	#5 (permalink)
Daishi Track Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: NJ Posts: 683 Drives: 09 370z 6Speed Rep Power: 17	If you want to keep a low profile go with the CF mufflers from FI. You wont see the big shiny canisters from behind the car. Just the real nice tips on the exhaust. You cant go wrong with the Customer service tony provides along with the quality and sound of the exhaust. __________________ Cobb Tuned \| Injen Intakes \| Fast Intentions Long Tube Headers \| Fast Intentions TDX Catback 18" Resonators CF Mufflers \| Tommy Kaira Hebi Bebi Shift Knob \| 19x9.5/19x10.5 Five Axis Design S5:F w/ 245/40/19 - 285/35/19 Hankook Ventus V12's

07-07-2010, 09:29 AM	#6 (permalink)
'10Anamoly Track Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: GA Posts: 882 Drives: 2010 370Z BS M6 Rep Power: 16	I'm wondering why the warranty on F.I.'s Carbon Fiber mufflers is only 1 year vs the 3 year warranty for the Stainless Mufflers. Are the Carbon Fiber's expected to not last as long? I like the look of them but stuff like that on the website makes me question why they specify the difference. I'm sure the piping would be fine for the life of the car, just the mufflers I wonder. Anyone have input on the warranty difference (not bashing, just curious)? __________________ 2013 Ford Mustang GT 374rwhp, 360rwtq SAE / GT500 Axle-Backs / Brembo Pack / Track Pack / Recaros / 6spd

07-07-2010, 09:44 AM	#8 (permalink)
URNEXT! Base Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Taxachusetts Posts: 64 Drives: 09 370,72 240,96 GTS Rep Power: 15	I just ordered the Berk CBE and high flow cats through Fail Safe Performance last week. I was told the exhaust was a 3 - 4 week wait but I can honestly say if my order goes beyond that I will cancel it. Even at $995, the great price won't justify garbage customer service but I remain optimistic and willing to give Berk a chance.

07-07-2010, 05:46 PM	#10 (permalink)
'10Anamoly Track Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: GA Posts: 882 Drives: 2010 370Z BS M6 Rep Power: 16	Daishi, do you have a sound clip of your exhaust setup? Would love to hear the FI carbon fiber exhaust with the longtubes! __________________ 2013 Ford Mustang GT 374rwhp, 360rwtq SAE / GT500 Axle-Backs / Brembo Pack / Track Pack / Recaros / 6spd

07-07-2010, 11:18 AM	#12 (permalink)
efuseakay Enthusiast Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: The DAYNGA ZONE! Posts: 404 Drives: 2010 G37xS Sedan Rep Power: 16	I waited a little over 2 months for a FI CBE for my G sedan. I do not regret it. Not one bit.

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