Nissan 370Z Forum  

Best Headers-HFC combo?

Hi folks, I used the "search" button without great results... In your opinion, which is the better headers/HFC solution for power gains? IMHO Berk's is the better choice for cats:gives

Go Back   Nissan 370Z Forum > Nissan 370Z Tech Area > Engine & Drivetrain > Intake/Exhaust


Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 06-02-2010, 07:12 AM   #1 (permalink)
Base Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Italy
Posts: 90
Drives: Good question...
Rep Power: 16
Mora is on a distinguished road
Default Best Headers-HFC combo?

Hi folks, I used the "search" button without great results...

In your opinion, which is the better headers/HFC solution for power gains?

IMHO Berk's is the better choice for cats:gives very impressive gains, sound and remove some weight.

But headers... i've absolutely no idea on power gains/ quality of them. Stillen, Central 20, Fujitsubo, etc, etc, For me they are all the same... Which would you buy and why? (especially in relation with cats).

Sorry for english mistakes.
Mora is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-02-2010, 08:57 AM   #2 (permalink)
I shake Caravans
 
Caravanshaka's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: north Dallas
Posts: 9,517
Drives: everyone crazy
Rep Power: 42
Caravanshaka has a reputation beyond reputeCaravanshaka has a reputation beyond reputeCaravanshaka has a reputation beyond reputeCaravanshaka has a reputation beyond reputeCaravanshaka has a reputation beyond reputeCaravanshaka has a reputation beyond reputeCaravanshaka has a reputation beyond reputeCaravanshaka has a reputation beyond reputeCaravanshaka has a reputation beyond reputeCaravanshaka has a reputation beyond reputeCaravanshaka has a reputation beyond repute
Default

if you don't have to worry about emissions, defintiely the fast intentions long-tube headers.

regarding headers in combination with cats, I think the only one we have any real experience with on the forum is Stillen, and nobody was blown away with them if I recall.
__________________
____________________ PROJECT DiaD - Sold but not forgotten!
The first testicular guard, the "Cup," was used in Hockey in 1874 and the first helmet was used in 1974. That means it only took 100 years for men to realize that in order to work the penis, the brain must remain whole.
Caravanshaka is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-02-2010, 12:19 PM   #3 (permalink)
Track Member
 
dlmartin81's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Chalfont, PA
Age: 43
Posts: 923
Drives: 09 370Z
Rep Power: 608
dlmartin81 has a reputation beyond reputedlmartin81 has a reputation beyond reputedlmartin81 has a reputation beyond reputedlmartin81 has a reputation beyond reputedlmartin81 has a reputation beyond reputedlmartin81 has a reputation beyond reputedlmartin81 has a reputation beyond reputedlmartin81 has a reputation beyond reputedlmartin81 has a reputation beyond reputedlmartin81 has a reputation beyond reputedlmartin81 has a reputation beyond repute
Default

__________________

Dan
F.I. SS CBE 18-R || Llumar 40% tint
dlmartin81 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-02-2010, 02:48 PM   #4 (permalink)
Base Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Italy
Posts: 90
Drives: Good question...
Rep Power: 16
Mora is on a distinguished road
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Caravanshaka View Post
if you don't have to worry about emissions, defintiely the fast intentions long-tube headers.

regarding headers in combination with cats, I think the only one we have any real experience with on the forum is Stillen, and nobody was blown away with them if I recall.
I'd prefer to put on HFC for emissions and because test pipes are too loud. Infact i'm planing to mix Berk HFC with Fast Int. CBE without resonators: imho it is the best configuration and has the better quality/price relashion. This is why i'm asking you about headers. And, for what a read, you prefer Stillen.
Mora is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-02-2010, 02:50 PM   #5 (permalink)
Track Member
 
Viera's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Atlanta, GA
Posts: 897
Drives: '09 M.Blue 370Z 6MT
Rep Power: 264
Viera has a reputation beyond reputeViera has a reputation beyond reputeViera has a reputation beyond reputeViera has a reputation beyond reputeViera has a reputation beyond reputeViera has a reputation beyond reputeViera has a reputation beyond reputeViera has a reputation beyond reputeViera has a reputation beyond reputeViera has a reputation beyond reputeViera has a reputation beyond repute
Default

^Don't get Stillen headers. Hardly any gains...
Viera is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-02-2010, 02:51 PM   #6 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
theDreamer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Texas
Posts: 30,879
Drives: 370z
Rep Power: 4210
theDreamer has a reputation beyond reputetheDreamer has a reputation beyond reputetheDreamer has a reputation beyond reputetheDreamer has a reputation beyond reputetheDreamer has a reputation beyond reputetheDreamer has a reputation beyond reputetheDreamer has a reputation beyond reputetheDreamer has a reputation beyond reputetheDreamer has a reputation beyond reputetheDreamer has a reputation beyond reputetheDreamer has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Berk HFC, stock headers.
__________________
theDreamer's Z // Fast Intentions // Uprev // GTM // HKS // TEIN
theDreamer's Silvia // URAS // GREDDY
Houston Zs // Facebook // Twitter // Instagram
theDreamer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-02-2010, 02:56 PM   #7 (permalink)
I shake Caravans
 
Caravanshaka's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: north Dallas
Posts: 9,517
Drives: everyone crazy
Rep Power: 42
Caravanshaka has a reputation beyond reputeCaravanshaka has a reputation beyond reputeCaravanshaka has a reputation beyond reputeCaravanshaka has a reputation beyond reputeCaravanshaka has a reputation beyond reputeCaravanshaka has a reputation beyond reputeCaravanshaka has a reputation beyond reputeCaravanshaka has a reputation beyond reputeCaravanshaka has a reputation beyond reputeCaravanshaka has a reputation beyond reputeCaravanshaka has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mora View Post
I'd prefer to put on HFC for emissions and because test pipes are too loud. Infact i'm planing to mix Berk HFC with Fast Int. CBE without resonators: imho it is the best configuration and has the better quality/price relashion. This is why i'm asking you about headers. And, for what a read, you prefer Stillen.
if you think test pipes are too loud, you may reconsider adding resonators to your FI CBE. 12" resonators are still pretty loud with HFC's.

From what I can tell, the long-tubes aren't a ton louder than header/hfc combo's. You may want to check a few youtube videos to help decide tone.

But if you don't want long-tubes, I agree with dreamer. Berk HFC's and stock headers...aftermarket shorties aren't worth the money and headache.
__________________
____________________ PROJECT DiaD - Sold but not forgotten!
The first testicular guard, the "Cup," was used in Hockey in 1874 and the first helmet was used in 1974. That means it only took 100 years for men to realize that in order to work the penis, the brain must remain whole.
Caravanshaka is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-02-2010, 03:08 PM   #8 (permalink)
Base Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Italy
Posts: 90
Drives: Good question...
Rep Power: 16
Mora is on a distinguished road
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Viera View Post
^Don't get Stillen headers. Hardly any gains...

This is the firts time i read this. Why do you say it?
Mora is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-02-2010, 03:09 PM   #9 (permalink)
Base Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Italy
Posts: 90
Drives: Good question...
Rep Power: 16
Mora is on a distinguished road
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by theDreamer View Post
Berk HFC, stock headers.

Ok, you are the second...
Mora is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-02-2010, 03:12 PM   #10 (permalink)
Base Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Italy
Posts: 90
Drives: Good question...
Rep Power: 16
Mora is on a distinguished road
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Caravanshaka View Post
if you think test pipes are too loud, you may reconsider adding resonators to your FI CBE. 12" resonators are still pretty loud with HFC's.

From what I can tell, the long-tubes aren't a ton louder than header/hfc combo's. You may want to check a few youtube videos to help decide tone.

But if you don't want long-tubes, I agree with dreamer. Berk HFC's and stock headers...aftermarket shorties aren't worth the money and headache.
mmm..this is a shame.
Mora is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-02-2010, 03:14 PM   #11 (permalink)
RCZ
A True Z Fanatic
 
RCZ's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Miami
Posts: 6,403
Drives: '09 370Z
Rep Power: 1119
RCZ has a reputation beyond reputeRCZ has a reputation beyond reputeRCZ has a reputation beyond reputeRCZ has a reputation beyond reputeRCZ has a reputation beyond reputeRCZ has a reputation beyond reputeRCZ has a reputation beyond reputeRCZ has a reputation beyond reputeRCZ has a reputation beyond reputeRCZ has a reputation beyond reputeRCZ has a reputation beyond repute
Send a message via AIM to RCZ
Default

Headers in general don't really do much on the 370z. I didnt particularly think the sound from the FI headers is any different than without it either. If anything its raspier since you are removing the cats. If I were you I'd put that money somewhere else...like the rest of the exhaust or an intake.
RCZ is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-02-2010, 03:19 PM   #12 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
toxik's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Brooklyn, NY
Age: 38
Posts: 9,157
Drives: 11 328xi, 96 300zxTT
Rep Power: 44
toxik has a reputation beyond reputetoxik has a reputation beyond reputetoxik has a reputation beyond reputetoxik has a reputation beyond reputetoxik has a reputation beyond reputetoxik has a reputation beyond reputetoxik has a reputation beyond reputetoxik has a reputation beyond reputetoxik has a reputation beyond reputetoxik has a reputation beyond reputetoxik has a reputation beyond repute
Send a message via AIM to toxik
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mora View Post
mmm..this is a shame.
there's nothing bad about the fact that OEM 370z headers already work well. why waste money on something that already performs well.
toxik is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-02-2010, 03:27 PM   #13 (permalink)
Base Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Italy
Posts: 90
Drives: Good question...
Rep Power: 16
Mora is on a distinguished road
Default

Well... the final result, from what i understood is:

1) It's better take F.I. long tube headers than short headers and HFC

2) If i decide for HFC, stock headers are the best solution.
Mora is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-02-2010, 03:31 PM   #14 (permalink)
I shake Caravans
 
Caravanshaka's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: north Dallas
Posts: 9,517
Drives: everyone crazy
Rep Power: 42
Caravanshaka has a reputation beyond reputeCaravanshaka has a reputation beyond reputeCaravanshaka has a reputation beyond reputeCaravanshaka has a reputation beyond reputeCaravanshaka has a reputation beyond reputeCaravanshaka has a reputation beyond reputeCaravanshaka has a reputation beyond reputeCaravanshaka has a reputation beyond reputeCaravanshaka has a reputation beyond reputeCaravanshaka has a reputation beyond reputeCaravanshaka has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mora View Post
Well... the final result, from what i understood is:

1) It's better take F.I. long tube headers than short headers and HFC

2) If i decide for HFC, stock headers are the best solution.
looks about right to me
__________________
____________________ PROJECT DiaD - Sold but not forgotten!
The first testicular guard, the "Cup," was used in Hockey in 1874 and the first helmet was used in 1974. That means it only took 100 years for men to realize that in order to work the penis, the brain must remain whole.
Caravanshaka is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-02-2010, 03:36 PM   #15 (permalink)
RCZ
A True Z Fanatic
 
RCZ's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Miami
Posts: 6,403
Drives: '09 370Z
Rep Power: 1119
RCZ has a reputation beyond reputeRCZ has a reputation beyond reputeRCZ has a reputation beyond reputeRCZ has a reputation beyond reputeRCZ has a reputation beyond reputeRCZ has a reputation beyond reputeRCZ has a reputation beyond reputeRCZ has a reputation beyond reputeRCZ has a reputation beyond reputeRCZ has a reputation beyond reputeRCZ has a reputation beyond repute
Send a message via AIM to RCZ
Default

1) The difference between the FI longtube and the Stillen headers is probably not noticeable with regards to power. Its like 5hp.

2) Not best, but it makes most sense financially considering the little difference headers make...I'm pretty sure I lost torque with my headers, however all that changes if you ever decide to get forced induction.
RCZ is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Best Roadster Color Combo fisherg Nissan 370Z Roadster (Convertible) 38 11-09-2012 12:58 AM
best tire size combo?? res0zsfa Wheels & Tires 2 05-11-2010 11:43 PM
Advice: What color combo? IHas370Z? Nissan 370Z General Discussions 14 07-31-2009 12:18 PM
Should i order this combo? captkaos Nissan 370Z Pricing / Ordering Discussions 5 07-19-2009 02:54 PM


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 05:41 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0 PL2