Nitrous Oxide...

Push370zzz · 05-18-2010, 01:07 PM

Why aren't more people using these systems? They seem like such a bargain, and I kind of like the idea that can make anywhere from 270 to 420 RWHP whenever I want. What are the drawbacks?

NewlyIMPORTed · 05-18-2010, 01:09 PM

your engine can blow up. and your warrantee is thrown away. other than that it taste pretty good in the new monster

Diocletian · 05-18-2010, 01:17 PM

NAWZZZZ! Placement of the bottle would be annoying I think. Also echoing the "voids your warranty" and is highly unsafe in most applications. You will basically wear out the components of your engine MUCH faster.

FuszNissan · 05-18-2010, 01:50 PM

I completely disagree.

1. You only use it when you need too. So it's not like you are running around town spraying everywhere.

2. There are certain things that can make it safe to run.
Bottle warmer, pressure gauge, proper tune, run it a little lean, colder plugs.

If tuned right you will be fine.

XwChriswX · 05-18-2010, 02:01 PM

jnaut · 05-18-2010, 02:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FuszNissan

I completely disagree.

1. You only use it when you need too. So it's not like you are running around town spraying everywhere.

2. There are certain things that can make it safe to run.
Bottle warmer, pressure gauge, proper tune, run it a little lean, colder plugs.

If tuned right you will be fine.

i agree except for run it a little lean, u would rather fatten up the fuel.

FuszNissan · 05-18-2010, 02:10 PM

I figure run a little rich so you don't burn anything up. I figure running lean would be a little more dangerous. It's been a while since I have talked about NOS. I had a Zex kit on my 03 350.

chuckd05 · 05-18-2010, 02:13 PM

I almost want to buy a kit just to go to the track with when my buddy in his 350ish whp Evo wants to go.... He talks like his car is a ferrari, It would prob be worth it to buy the kit, install myself, go to track one day with it, beat his time, take it out and sell it...

Id prob run a 12.2 or better with a 100 shot im guessing. The extra tourque would be the best part of it.

When i went to the track the last time, A guy in his C5 was telling me how he was running 12.8-9 before his bottle, now he shoots a 150 shot and runs 11.4-11.8 Shoots right out of the hole too... He was sayign how he puts it in all his cars but only uses it at the strip... he was loving my car and was telling me to get a kit . I think about it all the time but I dont want to do that to my motor.... But he insisted a good tune and 100 shot should be fine .

What are our heads made out of ? Sorry for not knowing...

DEVIL_Z · 05-18-2010, 02:26 PM

zex it cuts off if anything is about to happen to the motor. my cousin use to have it on his 01 prelude and did him wonders against mustang gt.

jnaut · 05-18-2010, 02:41 PM

I did this set-up in my old car '06 civic si it was trapping 116mph on the 80 shot... it does do wonders to motors tq less!!

Push370zzz · 05-18-2010, 05:19 PM

come on guys...I know that nos is kind of a Fast and Furious type of mod but come on. Sub $1k...can be turned off/on easily that can give you a burst of an extra 150hp? What are the REAL chances of damage/who has actual experience with this. I can imagine what the horror stories would be...

jnaut · 05-18-2010, 08:52 PM

the chances are very real of damage if the installer , doesnt know what he is doing, i have had many nitrous cars... and zero issues. except for one time i didnt care about the engine i was hitting it with about 120 shot on a 1.6 liter civic !! the motor was only rated at 127 hp so i was doubling the hp..haha it took the nitrous for so long , i ran about 20 bottle through it before it finally let a rod go.

Gunzero · 05-18-2010, 11:50 PM

Ejecto seato cuzzz

fstrnldr · 05-19-2010, 01:30 AM

The biggest problems with nitrous are the facts that the basic kits usually don't have EVERYTHING you will want to keep it safe. You don't have to have it operated off of a window switch, but that can save you in case of a missed shift. Nitrous and a rev limiter can be a bad situation. The second problem can be that a "wet" shot is designed to inject the nitrous and fuel together. If this is done at a single point (or two in the case of the VQ) you are trying to inject fuel through an intake manifold that was never designed for a liquid (unlike a carb engine). This can (not always of course) cause fuel puddles which can lead to some of the engine backfires, or worse that you hear about. Only other thing to consider is that just like with boost, it will become addictive, and bottle refills aren't free.

Snakes709 · 05-19-2010, 01:58 AM

(big red switch is coming out cuz i decided to go a different route with my bottle heater so im using a switch thats inside my center console for main switch)

05-18-2010, 01:07 PM	#1 (permalink)
Push370zzz Track Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: NE Age: 39 Posts: 649 Drives: cars Rep Power: 17	Nitrous Oxide... Why aren't more people using these systems? They seem like such a bargain, and I kind of like the idea that can make anywhere from 270 to 420 RWHP whenever I want. What are the drawbacks? __________________ Range Rover Sport Supercharged Nissan 370z Touring + Sport

05-18-2010, 01:09 PM	#2 (permalink)
NewlyIMPORTed A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2009 Location: Kennesaw, GA Posts: 1,109 Drives: 11 STI Sedan Rep Power: 18	your engine can blow up. and your warrantee is thrown away. other than that it taste pretty good in the new monster __________________ 2011 WRX STICobb Accessport, Nameless Performance exhaust, COBB SF Intake, COBB downpipe, 20% tint, Work Emotion XD9's

05-18-2010, 01:17 PM	#3 (permalink)
Diocletian Enthusiast Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Orlando, Fl Posts: 350 Drives: 09 370z CY A7 Rep Power: 15	NAWZZZZ! Placement of the bottle would be annoying I think. Also echoing the "voids your warranty" and is highly unsafe in most applications. You will basically wear out the components of your engine MUCH faster. __________________ Injen Dual CAI \| Illuminated Kick plates \| Stillen Sway bar kit \| F.I TDX w/ 12" Resonators \| F.I HFC's \| UpRev Tune \| 300HP/225tq Mustang Dyno

05-18-2010, 01:50 PM	#4 (permalink)
FuszNissan A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2009 Location: St. Louis Posts: 14,275 Drives: Pure Sex Rep Power: 542	I completely disagree. 1. You only use it when you need too. So it's not like you are running around town spraying everywhere. 2. There are certain things that can make it safe to run. Bottle warmer, pressure gauge, proper tune, run it a little lean, colder plugs. If tuned right you will be fine. __________________ Mods: Too Many to list! LouFuszNissan ZDAYZ 2012

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05-18-2010, 02:10 PM	#7 (permalink)
FuszNissan A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2009 Location: St. Louis Posts: 14,275 Drives: Pure Sex Rep Power: 542	I figure run a little rich so you don't burn anything up. I figure running lean would be a little more dangerous. It's been a while since I have talked about NOS. I had a Zex kit on my 03 350. __________________ Mods: Too Many to list! LouFuszNissan ZDAYZ 2012

05-18-2010, 02:13 PM	#8 (permalink)
chuckd05 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: NY Posts: 2,391 Drives: No longer a Z Rep Power: 20	I almost want to buy a kit just to go to the track with when my buddy in his 350ish whp Evo wants to go.... He talks like his car is a ferrari, It would prob be worth it to buy the kit, install myself, go to track one day with it, beat his time, take it out and sell it... Id prob run a 12.2 or better with a 100 shot im guessing. The extra tourque would be the best part of it. When i went to the track the last time, A guy in his C5 was telling me how he was running 12.8-9 before his bottle, now he shoots a 150 shot and runs 11.4-11.8 Shoots right out of the hole too... He was sayign how he puts it in all his cars but only uses it at the strip... he was loving my car and was telling me to get a kit . I think about it all the time but I dont want to do that to my motor.... But he insisted a good tune and 100 shot should be fine . What are our heads made out of ? Sorry for not knowing... __________________ 09 370Z 6M PW - FBO Best 1/4 mile = 12.926 @ 109 SOLD -- 08 BMW 135i - FBO 12.1@120mph SOLD -- white 09 e92 335 Coupe Mtech - 11.9 @ 119 :-) Last edited by chuckd05; 05-18-2010 at 02:19 PM.

05-18-2010, 02:26 PM	#9 (permalink)
DEVIL_Z Base Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: richmond tx Posts: 73 Drives: 370z red sport Rep Power: 16	zex it cuts off if anything is about to happen to the motor. my cousin use to have it on his 01 prelude and did him wonders against mustang gt.

05-18-2010, 02:41 PM	#10 (permalink)
jnaut A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: wpb, fl Posts: 1,146 Drives: 09 370z Rep Power: 18	I did this set-up in my old car '06 civic si it was trapping 116mph on the 80 shot... it does do wonders to motors tq less!! __________________ Best 1/4 mile 12.24 Best mph 114.5_______

05-18-2010, 05:19 PM	#11 (permalink)
Push370zzz Track Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: NE Age: 39 Posts: 649 Drives: cars Rep Power: 17	come on guys...I know that nos is kind of a Fast and Furious type of mod but come on. Sub $1k...can be turned off/on easily that can give you a burst of an extra 150hp? What are the REAL chances of damage/who has actual experience with this. I can imagine what the horror stories would be... __________________ Range Rover Sport Supercharged Nissan 370z Touring + Sport

05-18-2010, 08:52 PM	#12 (permalink)
jnaut A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: wpb, fl Posts: 1,146 Drives: 09 370z Rep Power: 18	the chances are very real of damage if the installer , doesnt know what he is doing, i have had many nitrous cars... and zero issues. except for one time i didnt care about the engine i was hitting it with about 120 shot on a 1.6 liter civic !! the motor was only rated at 127 hp so i was doubling the hp..haha it took the nitrous for so long , i ran about 20 bottle through it before it finally let a rod go. __________________ Best 1/4 mile 12.24 Best mph 114.5_______

05-18-2010, 11:50 PM	#13 (permalink)
Gunzero Track Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Texas Posts: 889 Drives: Nissan 370z Rep Power: 259	Ejecto seato cuzzz __________________

05-19-2010, 01:30 AM	#14 (permalink)
fstrnldr Base Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: CA Posts: 170 Drives: Canyonero Rep Power: 16	The biggest problems with nitrous are the facts that the basic kits usually don't have EVERYTHING you will want to keep it safe. You don't have to have it operated off of a window switch, but that can save you in case of a missed shift. Nitrous and a rev limiter can be a bad situation. The second problem can be that a "wet" shot is designed to inject the nitrous and fuel together. If this is done at a single point (or two in the case of the VQ) you are trying to inject fuel through an intake manifold that was never designed for a liquid (unlike a carb engine). This can (not always of course) cause fuel puddles which can lead to some of the engine backfires, or worse that you hear about. Only other thing to consider is that just like with boost, it will become addictive, and bottle refills aren't free.

05-19-2010, 01:58 AM	#15 (permalink)
Snakes709 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Edmonton Posts: 1,205 Drives: 2011 Evo-X GSR Rep Power: 18	(big red switch is coming out cuz i decided to go a different route with my bottle heater so im using a switch thats inside my center console for main switch) __________________ 2011 Evo-GSR AMS 2.4 stroker/ bore, FP Black build in progress. Sponsor: DSG Performance

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