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G Fo12ce 05-02-2010 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by vipor (Post 520959)
That's like a stomach and liver for a s2k or somethin

LOL, ya but like Superman's stomach and liver.

Zsteve 05-02-2010 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by G Fo12ce (Post 521737)
LOL, ya but like Superman's stomach and liver.

and that s2k intake prolly cost 2k

redroadster10 05-02-2010 09:30 AM

what is the price on these intakes?

frost 05-02-2010 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by redroadster10 (Post 521744)
what is the price on these intakes?

http://www.the370z.com/intake-exhaus...tml#post517209

Zsteve 05-02-2010 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by frost (Post 522515)

Yu too funny! Never ending cycle.

tjlazer 05-03-2010 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by MH@370ZSource (Post 517209)
It will be availble on our website by this weekend.
Somewhere around $300-$315 range.

Michael

any update on the price/availability on your site?

Michael@TheZStore 05-03-2010 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by tjlazer (Post 522966)
any update on the price/availability on your site?

You can call to order.
800-633-6331 in stock $309.95 plus shipping

Not sure when my web guy will have it on the website. Hopefully very soon.
But you can call to order.

Michael

Kastley85891 05-04-2010 04:17 AM

Finally - thanks for taking the time to post

OP - I would run them but they are too simular to my home mades to warrant the change.
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Originally Posted by ZKindaGuy (Post 520456)
I'm reading the responses and I am getting the impression that folks here think that if a car runs air intakes with no box enclosure or shields that form an enclosure with the hood that the temperatures of the air are going to be outragiously high. I believe this is coming from a lack of detail understanding in regards to the dymnamics occurring with the air under teh hood. There are alot of things coming into play that impact the intake air temperatures.

I have performed air intake temperature tuning while collecting and analyzing the ECU data for ambient and air-intake temperatures as measured by a function of the MAF sensor when aggressively tuning my various Mustangs and using air kits composed of various materials and physical configurations. I found the following results when doing the testing:

If I used a kit having titaneum piping + air cones with shields, I found that WHILE THE CAR IS MOVING the air intake temperature and the ambient air temperature consistently stayed within 4 degrees of each other.

If the titaneum piping was replaced with a chrome plated pipe I found that WHILE THE CAR IS MOVING the air intake temperature and the ambient air temperature stayed consistently 15 to 30 degrees apart from each other. BTW the chrome plated test actually had the air intake out in the wheel well. I was expecting cooler intake-air temperatures and found instead the chrome completely saturates the incoming air with heat.

If the titaneum or chrome plated intake piping was replaced with a rubber pipe I found that WHILE THE CAR IS MOVING the air intake temperature and the ambient air temperature stayed consistently within 2 degrees of each other.

If the shielding was removed on any of the above configurations I found that WHILE THE CAR IS MOVING the air intake temperature and the ambient air temperature consistently stayed within 4 to 6 degrees of each other.


So a couple of things I concluded about judging air intake kits in terms of the overall performance of each or compared with each other:

1. Consider the materials used to construct the kit as this is usually the major factor (versus containment OR location) that causes the air temperatures to rise. CHROME plated piping is the worst piping material one can construct an air intake kit from. Titanium is usually better and rubber intake piping is usually the better of either of the other two. The question you need to ask yourself for this one is "Do I want performance gains or do I want the engine bay catch the onlooker attention at the expense of potential performance?"

2. The location of the air cone is important (inside the bay v. outside the bay)....HOWEVER...it's position is NOT going to mean jack-squat if you disregard #1 above (what are the materials comprising the piping?). In the case of exterior bay located air cones, if the air kit uses CHROME PLATED pipes then they will not soak heat to warm the air intake air IF THE CHROME PLATED PIPING IS ON THE EXTERIOR OF THE BAY. However expect that that portion of CHROME PLATED PIPE that is running inside the engine bay to get hot and heat the air intake temperatures which can result in some temperature-gain offsetting of some temperature loss made from the exterior locatied portion of the intake-piping.

3. Notice in the testing I had done I kept emphasing "WHILE THE CAR IS MOVING".....the air-intake and ambiant temperatures will stay within a close range of each other (except CHROME intakes) if the car is MOVING. The moment the car stops at a light or something and begins to sit for more than 10 seconds the air intake temperatures will begin to rise fast and continue doing so until the air starts moving again through the engine bay when the car is moving. Depending on the weather outside and how long the car sits still, I have seen the air temperatures arise as much as 75 degrees above the ambient air temperatures. And then expect a good five to ten minutes of continuous moving of the car to get teh air-intake and ambient temperatures back within a reasonable proximity of each other.

This is the one point I find most people just don't get. The air-intake and ambiant temperatures stay within very reasonable and close proximity of each other while the car is moving. WHY? Because you just wouldn't believe how torrent the air flow is from the free flowing air entering the air-damn areas and being deflected off the various angles of the engine part assemblies. And yes I actually did a study of this as well when I was trying to decide between using a "no-shield" versus a "shield" configuration for that particular Stang....so yes there is HOT air occurring under the hood produced by the engine BUT when the car is moving the HOT air is being continuously flushed out of every crevise the air can get through by the torrent currents of air caused by the air entering the air-damns while the cars is moving. This is a good reason to have heat extractors as part of the external hood surface design.

And this brings me to point #4: From what I determined from teh shield testing the shields are there more to mitigate the torrent air flow happening as explained in #3 and just about zero in regards to functioning to control the rise in air-intake temperatures. In fact, I don't call these shields "HEAT" shields...I refer to them as "DEFLECTOR" shields or "WASH" shields as their function is mostly about controlling currents of air around the air-cone so a smooth induction of air can take place before being measured by the MAF sensor.

So my point I am trying to make here is there is alot of myth wrapped up in the various discussions about CAI kits because people are just repeating hearsay again and again from others without realizing the true nature of the complex dynamics occurring under the hood in regards to the CAI kit material design and its functional physics.

So I hope this provides a basis for understanding your car in this particular area of interest a little better.


redroadster10 05-11-2010 05:07 PM

any dyno run with these on yet? still dont believe the 14.2 with a shorter intake....

tjlazer 05-11-2010 11:45 PM

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Originally Posted by redroadster10 (Post 533540)
any dyno run with these on yet? still dont believe the 14.2 with a shorter intake....


http://www.the370z.com/intake-exhaus...ed-w-dyno.html

Arcticreaver said 11 HP gains but cannot find his thread.

hfrog355 05-17-2010 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by tjlazer (Post 534219)
http://www.the370z.com/intake-exhaus...ed-w-dyno.html

Arcticreaver said 11 HP gains but cannot find his thread.

I just want to bump this a little bit. Anyone have any more experiences with the Typhoon system?

I'm weighing the options between the K&N drop in + COBB tubing and doing the complete K&N setup. If the Typhoon isn't going to offer me at least 5hp, I'm likely just going to pocket the money and do the drop in and tube. I'm not looking to race the car or anything, just enjoy it and make it breather a little easier.

frost 05-17-2010 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by hfrog355 (Post 541371)
I just want to bump this a little bit. Anyone have any more experiences with the Typhoon system?

I'm weighing the options between the K&N drop in + COBB tubing and doing the complete K&N setup. If the Typhoon isn't going to offer me at least 5hp, I'm likely just going to pocket the money and do the drop in and tube. I'm not looking to race the car or anything, just enjoy it and make it breather a little easier.

I would wait for someone to post an independent dyno. Not that I don't believe manufacturers (sarcasm) but all the other HAIs (hot air intakes) have proven little gains, if not actual HP losses.

drisko 05-17-2010 07:41 PM

^How did you get over 23,00 posts and all those bad rep points!? Seems like a glitch.

frost 05-17-2010 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by drisko (Post 541408)
^How did you get over 23,00 posts and all those bad rep points!? Seems like a glitch.

I slept with the admin's wife.

Xan 05-17-2010 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by frost (Post 541429)
I slept with the admin.

Be honest.... fixed :tup:

tjlazer 05-17-2010 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by hfrog355 (Post 541371)
I just want to bump this a little bit. Anyone have any more experiences with the Typhoon system?

I'm weighing the options between the K&N drop in + COBB tubing and doing the complete K&N setup. If the Typhoon isn't going to offer me at least 5hp, I'm likely just going to pocket the money and do the drop in and tube. I'm not looking to race the car or anything, just enjoy it and make it breather a little easier.

I'm thinking about getting this HAI and doing a baseline Dyno then a Dyno once installed. LOL

frost 05-17-2010 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Xan (Post 541443)
I cranked one out while watching frost and the admin

:icon14:

gromano 05-20-2010 06:34 PM

Well i wanna see some real dynos before i buy these things.
I take it they would be more vocal than the Gen3's too? They dont have much sound, i wanna hear the weeze.

redroadster10 06-05-2010 09:52 AM

has anyone bought these intakes and have a dyno done yet. i want to wait and see what others say about them.

EVL370 06-08-2010 09:56 PM

Anymore feed back regarding this intake?

tjlazer 06-10-2010 02:16 PM

Nope. I am going to get a baseline this week then I might buy one and get it installed with a dyno afterwards... if I can get 10WHP I will be happy

JvKintheUSA 06-17-2010 09:00 AM

They look nice...in for updates!

JvKintheUSA 06-17-2010 06:22 PM

Anyone know the pipe diameter where the filter connects?

spearfish25 06-18-2010 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by ilive2win (Post 519865)
i have them installed, i like them, but i doubt its gains above 7 hp. i havent done any dyno runs with them installed but def doesnt feel like 14hp.

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Originally Posted by ilive2win (Post 519910)
well i had my hks exhaust and hfc installed right at the same time the intakes were installed...

Seriously? So you're going to purport that you don't FEEL a 14hp gain (only a 7hp gain), and then your next post says that you installed a catback exhaust, HFCs, AND the intakes at the same time. You have pretty impressive senses if you can somehow differentiate between the gains of all these concomitant additions and then still be able to sense that the intakes produced less than advertised performance gains.

Zsteve 06-18-2010 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by spearfish25 (Post 583606)
Seriously? So you're going to purport that you don't FEEL a 14hp gain (only a 7hp gain), and then your next post says that you installed a catback exhaust, HFCs, AND the intakes at the same time. You have pretty impressive senses if you can somehow differentiate between the gains of all these concomitant additions and then still be able to sense that the intakes produced less than advertised performance gains.

He has a very very very sensitive butt






dyno so dont plug him for it.

tjlazer 06-30-2010 03:30 PM

Ordered Typhoon intakes from Z Store, arrived today! Will do a dyno soon...

edit: Installed! Butt Duno says yes gains!

EVL370 06-30-2010 10:08 PM

Sound?

tjlazer 07-01-2010 12:50 PM

3 Attachment(s)
Sounds awesome!

TROOPER 07-04-2010 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by tjlazer (Post 601865)
Sounds awesome!

They look pretty sweet..!!

Do these intakes require any flash tuning or other mods, to prevent warning lights or other problems?

Xan 07-04-2010 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by JvKintheUSA (Post 582365)
Anyone know the pipe diameter where the filter connects?

OT, mooie avatar! :)

Jordo! 07-04-2010 06:53 PM

Baseline dyno? :(

JvKintheUSA 07-05-2010 06:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Xan (Post 606781)
OT, mooie avatar! :)

haha! Hup Holland, Hup

tjlazer 07-05-2010 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Jordo! (Post 606804)
Baseline dyno? :(

Yep around 290rwhp on DynoJet. Will get my new dyno soon.

http://www.the370z.com/north-west-re...tml#post573011

370Z JT 07-05-2010 12:45 PM

^you going back to the same place?

tjlazer 07-05-2010 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by 370Z JT (Post 607283)
^you going back to the same place?

Of course. But since they did two runs in 4th and one in 5th, I am wondering what I should do? Do all three in 5th? 5th is the correct gear. They insisted in 4th but was able to get the third run in 5th.

gromano 07-11-2010 07:34 PM

do one in each!! hahah im interested to see what gains you get too!

When you going?

Vegasboricua 07-12-2010 12:27 AM

Im also considering these intakes. If not Im going with the COBB MAF + K&N Drop ins or or K&N Intakes. I cant justify spending $500-$600 on G3's or Injens. I been doing research this whole weekend searching up and down on this thread and I just can't find any solid numbers....

Vegasboricua 07-13-2010 04:29 PM

bump! Anyone got these intakes?

ilive2win 07-13-2010 04:38 PM

ya, i have them. they dont lean the car out like most of the others. with all my bolt ons, i made 305hp, and i think 262tq . its in my journal. they are ok. they dont make the most gains but they are good. i dont have a dyno with just the intakes though

Vegasboricua 07-13-2010 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by ilive2win (Post 621826)
ya, i have them. they dont lean the car out like most of the others. with all my bolt ons, i made 305hp, and i think 262tq . its in my journal. they are ok. they dont make the most gains but they are good. i dont have a dyno with just the intakes though

Would you say they are worth the money? Or should I just get the Cobb tubes? Or just save up and get some true CAI like stillens


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