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upss 04-14-2010 07:30 AM

Jim wolf or stillen g3
 
which is better for performance and how many hp gain.

EVL370 04-14-2010 07:44 AM

Easy guys, the bloke is new!

Vegitto-kun 04-14-2010 07:58 AM

And don't spam.

I personally don't know about those short ram intakes.

isn't the point of the intakes to take in fresh cold air? These things are in the engine bay. I might be wrong ofcourse.

I myself got the stillen ones. I can slightly tell that the engine is more responsive. and I love the deeper exhaust sound now.

I personally would go for stillen.

Red370 04-14-2010 08:03 AM

Takeda FTW!:icon17:

Caravanshaka 04-14-2010 12:03 PM

take a look through the intake/exhaust section, you will find that the stillen and injen intakes are top on the dyno's (I believe Baker-Jackson dyno'd top-secret to be a little better, but at the cost of over $1k)

Zsteve 04-14-2010 12:06 PM

K&N drop Ins FTW. $80 (or so) and done. Same intake temps but only a few HP gained but throttle resonse is a little better. Sound is stock. I personally couldnt spend $500 on intakes but others love them for some gains and the bling bling look.

Zsteve 04-14-2010 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Caravanshaka (Post 496170)
take a look through the intake/exhaust section, you will find that the stillen and injen intakes are top on the dyno's (I believe Baker-Jackson dyno'd top-secret to be a little better, but at the cost of over $1k)


And I still dont beleive a short ram doing better than the G3. If so they have some new trick others dont know about and I find that hard to beleive.

Scott @ RA 04-15-2010 05:03 AM

JWT is my suggestion

Daishi 04-15-2010 08:15 AM

Neither... Go injen

RCZ 04-15-2010 08:19 AM

Get the G3's the JWT make no power. ( I know, I tested them for everyone to see) Definitely go with the G3's..

Red370 04-15-2010 08:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RCZ (Post 497513)
Get the G3's the JWT make no power. ( I know, I tested them for everyone to see) Definitely go with the G3's..

:iagree: DEFINITELY go with the G3's.

djpathfinder 04-15-2010 09:25 AM

G3

pipni 04-15-2010 09:48 AM

G3 or injen?

Zsteve 04-15-2010 09:52 AM

TS for $1,000,000 please

efuseakay 04-15-2010 11:17 AM

R2c. No bumper removal + heat shields = perfect combo.

Zsteve 04-15-2010 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by efuseakay (Post 497689)
R2c. No bumper removal + heat shields = perfect combo.

Might as well just do the K&N drop ins, same gains and cheaper. Somone on here had actually lost power wit hthe short ram thiey installed and I think it was either the R2C or the JWs.

efuseakay 04-15-2010 11:53 AM

Prob the JWT. ;)

UFreefer 04-15-2010 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Zsteve (Post 497708)
Might as well just do the K&N drop ins, same gains and cheaper. Somone on here had actually lost power wit hthe short ram thiey installed and I think it was either the R2C or the JWs.

Was thinking about just going with k&n drop ins. What were your impressions?

Zsteve 04-15-2010 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by UFreefer (Post 497721)
Was thinking about just going with k&n drop ins. What were your impressions?

better throttle response, free flowing and probably netted a few HP or TQ. Plus I can resuse them and not have to take my bumper off to clean them. And they need to be clean every few thousand miles. All filters need to be cleaned way before the 10,000 or 100,000 mile interval they say as once they start to get dirty you lose power. So the long tube intakes really need cleaning way before they say, meaning you will be taking the bumper off more often, and th emore something is removed and put back on the more it degrades and can get damaged. But if you have the $$$ and dont mind working on the car then the long tubes will net more power but I dont think any short rams do anything and any dyno can be tweek to show gains so I dont trust them till a member gets the stuff put on and I hear their review, and I wait for more than one to do it.

UFreefer 04-15-2010 12:51 PM

Good info...I'm going to go with those. I don't like the idea of taking my bumper off several times a year, especially since almost all of the gains are at 7K+rpm. As long as the k&n improves the throttle response a bit, then I'll be happy

RCZ 04-15-2010 12:54 PM

I will be having an intake roundup article on my blog soon. Maybe that will help you make a decision.

280z/300zx 04-15-2010 01:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zsteve (Post 497726)
better throttle response, free flowing and probably netted a few HP or TQ. Plus I can resuse them and not have to take my bumper off to clean them. And they need to be clean every few thousand miles. All filters need to be cleaned way before the 10,000 or 100,000 mile interval they say as once they start to get dirty you lose power. So the long tube intakes really need cleaning way before they say, meaning you will be taking the bumper off more often, and th emore something is removed and put back on the more it degrades and can get damaged. But if you have the $$$ and dont mind working on the car then the long tubes will net more power but I dont think any short rams do anything and any dyno can be tweek to show gains so I dont trust them till a member gets the stuff put on and I hear their review, and I wait for more than one to do it.


this is the route I'm going. Lets not forget another forum member here dyno tested the k&n drop ins which netted him 4-5hp gain. Another suggestion would be the cobb intake tubes. I figure between the k&n drop ins and cobb intake tubes I get half the hp gains of a long tube for a fraction of the price. And as others have mentioned, the maintance is much easier too.

Red370 04-15-2010 01:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UFreefer (Post 497779)
Good info...I'm going to go with those. I don't like the idea of taking my bumper off several times a year, especially since almost all of the gains are at 7K+rpm. As long as the k&n improves the throttle response a bit, then I'll be happy

you wont have to take the bumper off several times a year, once a year maximum, depending on how many miles you go, filters dont need to be cleaned for at least 8-10k. And why is everyone so darn concerned with removing the bumper, its a 10 minute or less job!

Zsteve 04-15-2010 01:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Red370 (Post 497834)
you wont have to take the bumper off several times a year, once a year maximum, depending on how many miles you go, filters dont need to be cleaned for at least 8-10k. And why is everyone so darn concerned with removing the bumper, its a 10 minute or less job!

I dont know Alex, after 8K miles the filters are probably pretty dirty causing them to not flow air in good and rob you of power, so if you wait till then you will have probaly lost most of the gains the long tubes offer. I clean my drop ins every oil change and alot of crap blows out of them then (especially here in TX where sh!t is flying around like crazy). No matter what intake you have the filters should be cleaned on a regular basis, like every oil change to keep them at maximum performance. The K&Ns say you can wait 100,00K miles or what ever they say, but I dont wait that long to atleast blow them out. Now to me the process of taking off the bumper, the price and all isnt worth it to me, and when something is on and off a few times things have a tendency to break, but I do know that some guys like working on their cars alot and wont mind taking the bumper off here and there. Im just getting lazy in my old age.

Red370 04-15-2010 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Zsteve (Post 497868)
I dont know Alex, after 8K miles the filters are probably pretty dirty causing them to not flow air in good and rob you of power, so if you wait till then you will have probaly lost most of the gains the long tubes offer. I clean my drop ins every oil change and alot of crap blows out of them then (especially here in TX where sh!t is flying around like crazy). No matter what intake you have the filters should be cleaned on a regular basis, like every oil change to keep them at maximum performance. The K&Ns say you can wait 100,00K miles or what ever they say, but I dont wait that long to atleast blow them out. Now to me the process of taking off the bumper, the price and all isnt worth it to me, and when something is on and off a few times things have a tendency to break, but I do know that some guys like working on their cars alot and wont mind taking the bumper off here and there. Im just getting lazy in my old age.

I just took the bumper off last week to have a peek at them, still somewhat clean looking, just about 4k on them so far, I assume with the filters sitting directly behind the bumper, they arent exposed to as much dirt/debris as something further back and more out in the open.

Zsteve 04-15-2010 06:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Red370 (Post 498163)
I just took the bumper off last week to have a peek at them, still somewhat clean looking, just about 4k on them so far, I assume with the filters sitting directly behind the bumper, they arent exposed to as much dirt/debris as something further back and more out in the open.

did u blow them out when u had it off? When do u pcs?

G37sHKS 04-15-2010 08:10 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fcIfKu3SemY

Hope this will answer your questions about K&N

Zsteve 04-15-2010 08:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by G37sHKS (Post 498336)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fcIfKu3SemY

Hope this will answer your questions about K&N

They flow good, with my Cobb AP I saw 240 G/S on a WOT pull when monitoring the MAF intake flow, Im not sure if that is 240 for both intakes or 240 for each intake. I would think for one only and I really had 480 G/S going into intake manifold. Not sure what the stocks did as I couldnt monitor anything until after I loaded the new tune. And they can probably allow more flow but that level was all the engine was capable of. Also the stock airbox was only reading 8-10 degress above ambient when driving. So the only thing missing with K&Ns and stock airbox is the larger MAF section which I beleive is where the aftermarket intakes get their gains.


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