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Crazy8 04-07-2010 05:13 PM

Cai or exhaust
 
Which one would be your first mod?

Matt 04-07-2010 05:19 PM

CBE is generally much more expensive to upgrade than CAI. HFCs are generally a little less expensive compared to Intakes.

CBE has higher gains and will be noticeable at all RPMs. HFCs show very good gains as a "first mod", also noitceable at all RPMs. Intakes show great gains at the higher RPMs, but only small gains at lower RPMs.

Cosmetically, CBE and CAI both look good, depending on the manufacturer. HFCs have zero cosmetic benefit.


I would always choose the CBE if I had the money. HFCs if I wasn't looking to spend a lot.

FuszNissan 04-07-2010 05:19 PM

I would do exhaust just for better sound IMO.

azn370z 04-07-2010 05:21 PM

Aftermarket Exhaust makes the 370z sound like a z and not a Lexus.

djpathfinder 04-07-2010 05:23 PM

CBE first...followed SHORTLY by intake.

fatcat777 04-07-2010 05:24 PM

bang for buck? go with some HFCs.

Reaper42 04-07-2010 05:36 PM

I actually would go with the Cold air intakes first. At least with the stillen gen 3 intakes (one i have on my car) I noticed a big difference in engine sound and performance, but when I put the new exhaust on (fast intentions with test pipes) I cant here the intake at ALL anymore lol exhaust is too loud. SO go with the cai first, its cheaper, you will be VERY happy with the improved sound, enjoy it for a lil while, then get an exhaust. If you go the other way around, you will end up buying an exhaust, love the sound, then buy the cai, and wont notice anything and feel like you just blew 500 bucks. But if you buy cai first, you will be like DAMN! that was worth 500 bucks, then when you add exhaust on top, you will be like DAYYYUMMMNN I just made something awesome even better.

Just my .2 cents

efuseakay 04-07-2010 06:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fatcat777 (Post 485654)
bang for buck? go with some HFCs.

This is the truth!

G37sHKS 04-07-2010 06:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reaper42 (Post 485688)
I actually would go with the Cold air intakes first. At least with the stillen gen 3 intakes (one i have on my car) I noticed a big difference in engine sound and performance, but when I put the new exhaust on (fast intentions with test pipes) I cant here the intake at ALL anymore lol exhaust is too loud. SO go with the cai first, its cheaper, you will be VERY happy with the improved sound, enjoy it for a lil while, then get an exhaust. If you go the other way around, you will end up buying an exhaust, love the sound, then buy the cai, and wont notice anything and feel like you just blew 500 bucks. But if you buy cai first, you will be like DAMN! that was worth 500 bucks, then when you add exhaust on top, you will be like DAYYYUMMMNN I just made something awesome even better.

Just my .2 cents


+100 to what he said

Red370 04-07-2010 06:17 PM

HFC's best bang for the buck hands down, G3's will pick up power, but much higher in the RPM band than a CBE or HFC setup. If you have the coin, CBE or HFC will net you better power throughout the power band.

Zsteve 04-07-2010 07:18 PM

CBE, look at the dynos from the differernt companies, they make 20+ hp and give great sound. Also note that the first exhaust mod you do will result the most gains,, and then thereafter the exhaust mods will only net a few more. How much duckies you got to spend?

djpathfinder 04-07-2010 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Red370 (Post 485754)
HFC's best bang for the buck hands down, G3's will pick up power, but much higher in the RPM band than a CBE or HFC setup. If you have the coin, CBE or HFC will net you better power throughout the power band.

Do HFCs make your exhaust louder (obnoxious)?

theDreamer 04-07-2010 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by djpathfinder (Post 485846)
Do HFCs make your exhaust louder (obnoxious)?

No, it will great a deeper tone a bit but it more so amplifies the stock sound.
I have heard it and it is nice, but I love my exhaust more. :D

terbo 04-07-2010 07:46 PM

CBE, get that great look from the rear and makes the exhaust sound much more like a sports car. Also, why waste money on intakes when you're only going to replace it with intercooler piping in the future? Oh wait, I guess not everyone is going to go that route...:D

Red370 04-07-2010 07:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by theDreamer (Post 485849)
No, it will great a deeper tone a bit but it more so amplifies the stock sound.
I have heard it and it is nice, but I love my exhaust more. :D

:iagree: It will make your exhaust sound a bit louder, but it sounds beautiful, racey even. I got my Berks for $300 and added 15whp, you will NEVER see that kinda bang for the buck anywhere.

Crazy8 04-08-2010 05:32 PM

I would like to get some Borlas, but I went on their website and can't find them for a 370. Which ones seem to have the deepest sound? I don't want the whiney ricer tone.

fatcat777 04-08-2010 07:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crazy8 (Post 487237)
I would like to get some Borlas, but I went on their website and can't find them for a 370. Which ones seem to have the deepest sound? I don't want the whiney ricer tone.


play around in here for a bit.
http://www.the370z.com/intake-exhaus...data-base.html

Crazy8 04-08-2010 07:38 PM

I have. It's hard to tell from videos. To bad there aren't more Z's in my area with after- market exhausts.

Crazy8 04-11-2010 07:36 PM

I think I've decided on CAI and HFC's. I think I'm gonna go with the stillen cai. Which hfc's do you like the best?

NewlyIMPORTed 04-11-2010 07:40 PM

i went with Berk HFC because of the extended O2 censor (your less likely to throw a CEL) but i went with the stillen CAI and then after that i got the agency power exhaust and that is very deep sounds kind of like an STI but more refined

370Zsteve 04-11-2010 07:45 PM

Without the CBE your car is still gonna sound :shakes head:

Red370 04-11-2010 08:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 370Zsteve (Post 492396)
Without the CBE your car is still gonna sound :shakes head:

I wouldnt say that, with HFC's my exhaust sounded way better than stock.

FuszNissan 04-11-2010 08:21 PM

:iagree:

Zsteve 04-11-2010 09:20 PM

The HFC will sound better than stock but the CBE will give it the best sound out of all mods but it is also the most expensive one. Also IMO HFC will degrade somewhat quickly and start to sound raspy and you will have to replace them again or put up with the sound where the CBE wont do that. Right now the ERZ are the least expensive HFC but we are kinda waiting for a certain amount of miles on all HFCs to see how they fare over time, as if they wear out.

Now that I have finally got my ERZ HFCs on, I am actually thinking about putting the stock cats back on as I am kinda on the line about the volume and some raspyness. The FI CBE by itself sounded awesome.

Red370 04-11-2010 10:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zsteve (Post 492608)
The HFC will sound better than stock but the CBE will give it the best sound out of all mods but it is also the most expensive one. Also IMO HFC will degrade somewhat quickly and start to sound raspy and you will have to replace them again or put up with the sound where the CBE wont do that. Right now the ERZ are the least expensive HFC but we are kinda waiting for a certain amount of miles on all HFCs to see how they fare over time, as if they wear out.

Now that I have finally got my ERZ HFCs on, I am actually thinking about putting the stock cats back on as I am kinda on the line about the volume and some raspyness. The FI CBE by itself sounded awesome.

all that hell to put them on and you wanna take them off? insanity!

Zsteve 04-11-2010 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Red370 (Post 492664)
all that hell to put them on and you wanna take them off? insanity!

I know huh! They do have a bit of rasp to them at time, then at other times they sound ok. But I can feel the difference they make so they wont come off till and only maybe, when I do the final drive upgrade. Need that Army money they owe me for the stop loss so I can do the final drive and lsd at once. Im off to NJ tomorrow for 3 weeks. You gonna be gone when I get back? Have to give me a call if so, to thank you for helping me here.


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