Stillen vs. Smoky: your take on intakes

Kastley85891 · 04-03-2010, 06:53 PM

Sure tuning is way more then fueling, TBH you can tune via EGT and not even look at AFR if you are experienced enough and have correct probe placement, personally I prefer a WBo2 to relay my accurate fuel readings, EGT FB is very useful in tandam for an accurate balance of fueling and ignition, but hell, look at a rom image from any vehicle, soo many parameters that can effect the ultimate outcome, its a fine balancing act to get a smooth, reliable, well targetted, accurate vehicle.

Thats why I tune my own cars.
Yes I have popped a motor in the name of science lol

Z eliminator · 01-17-2012, 07:59 AM

My 7 AT made 260.4 to 264 stock on the dyno, with the stillen G's it made 284, with the bumper on and no tuning of the car.
it made an honest 20 rwhp. (SAE).

secondnissan · 01-18-2012, 05:15 AM

Was this car tuned at all? We all know the stillen intakes lean things out a bit to make more power. HOWEVER Stillen recommends having the car tuned if you have thier intake, exhaust, cats and HEADERS. This car in this test had HFC's and Headers, which means it was running too lean to begin with, hence the power loss with the stillen intakes. Throw on the new TS intake and all the sudden the AF ratio richens up perfectly to make more power.

Notsud 13 · 02-13-2012, 12:27 PM

so whats the final verdict? does everyone agree with the TS dynos and numbers being better than the stillen G3s? Im about to pick up the TS intakes for a good price.

Japanjay · 03-21-2012, 02:55 PM

My old lady would kick my *** if I bought a pair of intakes for almost $2k.

ANMVQ · 03-21-2012, 04:18 PM

With all said, I agree that the shorty intakes lose power due to heat soak, But maybe they used the first or second run only? Also I think I would be more apt to ask why the car only made 286 with headers and and HFC's. My car made 298 with stock cats and headers? ( mustang dyno) Not inflated numbers/

Zrider79 · 03-21-2012, 04:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Notsud 13

so whats the final verdict? does everyone agree with the TS dynos and numbers being better than the stillen G3s? Im about to pick up the TS intakes for a good price.

Share what is a good price you found ?

Volk Z · 03-26-2012, 11:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zrider79

Share what is a good price you found ?

An arm and only half a leg

Im not sure 1300 more for the top secret intake is worth a 5hp 7Ft/lb Tq. I LOVE Top Secret but... Just doesnt seem worth the extra money.

BigT · 03-26-2012, 12:04 PM

I'm surprised no one questioned the air filter. Those mushroom style filters def. filter a ton less vs your standard oiled or dryflow filters, but flow more. I'm sure this attributed to the numbers slightly.

View Poll Results: Which intake do you think will come out on top?
Stillen G3	73	47.40%
Top Secret	48	31.17%
They will be essentially equal in HP gain.	33	21.43%
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04-03-2010, 06:53 PM	#151 (permalink)
Kastley85891 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: ATX 370 - Sold Posts: 1,149 Drives: 2003 Wagon Rep Power: 18	Sure tuning is way more then fueling, TBH you can tune via EGT and not even look at AFR if you are experienced enough and have correct probe placement, personally I prefer a WBo2 to relay my accurate fuel readings, EGT FB is very useful in tandam for an accurate balance of fueling and ignition, but hell, look at a rom image from any vehicle, soo many parameters that can effect the ultimate outcome, its a fine balancing act to get a smooth, reliable, well targetted, accurate vehicle. Thats why I tune my own cars. Yes I have popped a motor in the name of science lol __________________ Boosted V8 hunter 2850 lbs and 375WHP

01-17-2012, 07:59 AM	#152 (permalink)
Z eliminator A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Ontario Canada Posts: 1,659 Drives: 370 Z 7AT Sports Rep Power: 19	My 7 AT made 260.4 to 264 stock on the dyno, with the stillen G's it made 284, with the bumper on and no tuning of the car. it made an honest 20 rwhp. (SAE). __________________ 12.343 @114.14 . 4.5 stroker motor is now being built. Dec 1 2015.

03-21-2012, 04:18 PM	#156 (permalink)
ANMVQ A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Framingham MA Posts: 2,732 Drives: 2014 Q50 AWD Rep Power: 19	With all said, I agree that the shorty intakes lose power due to heat soak, But maybe they used the first or second run only? Also I think I would be more apt to ask why the car only made 286 with headers and and HFC's. My car made 298 with stock cats and headers? ( mustang dyno) Not inflated numbers/ __________________ 14 Q50 AWD, ARK, ECUTEK (SEB), Takda,

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secondnissan Base Member Join Date: May 2011 Location: chicago burbs Posts: 70 Drives: 10 370z 7at Rep Power: 14	Was this car tuned at all? We all know the stillen intakes lean things out a bit to make more power. HOWEVER Stillen recommends having the car tuned if you have thier intake, exhaust, cats and HEADERS. This car in this test had HFC's and Headers, which means it was running too lean to begin with, hence the power loss with the stillen intakes. Throw on the new TS intake and all the sudden the AF ratio richens up perfectly to make more power.

02-13-2012, 12:27 PM	#154 (permalink)
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03-26-2012, 12:04 PM	#159 (permalink)
BigT Enthusiast Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: NJ Posts: 469 Drives: 98 2g DSM Rep Power: 13	I'm surprised no one questioned the air filter. Those mushroom style filters def. filter a ton less vs your standard oiled or dryflow filters, but flow more. I'm sure this attributed to the numbers slightly.