Originally Posted by Baker-Jackson Nissan The tests that were posted were done with the hood down and bumper on, so they were as "Real World" as we could get. As
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03-27-2010, 07:34 PM | #76 (permalink) | |
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Drove about an hour (mix of freeway and stop-and-go) on the Top Secret before the final dyno. It confirmed the first pull, in which we simply installed it immediately after the Stillen dyno. Last edited by Baker; 03-27-2010 at 08:24 PM. |
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03-27-2010, 09:11 PM | #78 (permalink) |
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Wow, good luck to anyone that wants to compete against Stillen's G3 gains....no one will believe you if you do!
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From a fluid dynamics standpoint, air/liquid passing through two tubes of equal diameter will experience less resistance in the shorter pipe (i.e. less of a pressure drop=more flow). The advantage of a CAI is pretty much limited to the cold air aspect alone.
As someone had alluded to, it is possible that the dyno setup may have provided sufficient airflow to keep warm air from entering the SRI (or perhaps the water temp was low enough that the thermostat was closed and the radiator didn't really heat the air). Basically, an SRI can make more power, provided it is somehow shielded from incoming hot air. That said, I do not really see anything special about this design that makes it unique in this regard. |
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Either it increases airflow greatly or reduces the temperature of the air into the engine which, as a side effect, increases air being received by it.
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Exactly, it has nothing to do with brand, it has EVERYTHING to do with it being a CAI against a hot air sucker AKA SR intake.
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03-28-2010, 12:28 AM | #83 (permalink) |
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Hell, I'll ask the man myself.
We will be interviewing Smoky next week (through a translator). With that being said, are there any particular questions you want asked? -keep it professional I will do my best to ask him about his thoughts on other aspects of the Z as well, just let me know what you guys have! --David-- David@maydaygarage.com |
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Someone needs to show some pics of this intake, inside and out, so we can answer some of the questions Phelan and others have posed.
Assuming this intake DOES NOT lean the car out, then it's got to have some sort of unique design element that is allowing it to draw in a lot more air into the engine. Maybe some sort of special velocity stack or vanes on the inside of the piping...I'm really not sure. I do commend them for doing a closed-hood dyno though, I haven't seen anyone do that with a short ram yet. |
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Me personally I dont think anyone is going to come up with a super CAI that out performs all others by marginal amounts. As long as the CAI is pulling air from the outside of the engine bay, they are gong to be very close. I mean lets face it, its just some tubes, a filter and a MAF. Small changes in any of these may produce gains but Im sure all companies have done every variation possible to get the most out of a CAI. So if one does better than another by a few hp, can we really say its better when one can not, and I repeat, can not excatly duplicate the conditions every time? I say choose the one that looks good to you and that you can aford.
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