Stillen vs. Smoky: your take on intakes

Baker · 03-25-2010, 09:13 PM

So, the parts from Top Secret and Amuse are in and ready to go on Project: Mothra. We thought we'd take this opportunity to do a little experiment. As you may know from Project Mothra

we have Stillen headers and cats, NST pulleys and a few other things already on the car. We now also have a Stillen G3 intake on the car, as that seems to be the benchmark for performance.

Tomorrow, we'll do a dyno pull with the Stillen intake. Then, we'll swap out the Stillen with a Top Secret intake -- same car, same day, all things equal. We'd like to see for ourselves which one comes out on top. Check the Project Mothra web site for the official results beginning Friday and for updates on the build. In the meantime, what do you think we'll find?

UPDATE:

The results are in!

Stillen G3 CAI: 281hp, 217tq
Top Secret CAI: 286hp, 224tq

Red370 · 03-25-2010, 09:18 PM

I think the G3's are in the ideal location and of all the intakes, they have shown the best gains, at best I think the TS intakes will be equal in power production.

theDreamer · 03-25-2010, 09:25 PM

Tough call, I think Stillen will edge out slighty since you have already opened up some of the back half.
Do we have pictures of the TS intakes yet?

Chriz · 03-25-2010, 09:36 PM

in for results

Baker · 03-25-2010, 09:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by theDreamer

Tough call, I think Stillen will edge out slighty since you have already opened up some of the back half.
Do we have pictures of the TS intakes yet?

We'll take plenty tomorrow at the dyno runs. Planning to do hood-open and hood-closed pulls for both intakes. The time it takes to do the swap will allow the engine to cool back down and equalize the test.

Check us on facebook, too, for loads of updates tomorrow and over the weekend. It's going to be very busy gearing up for Import Reactor.

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bejan · 03-25-2010, 09:57 PM

I think the stock intakes are the best. However, it would be interesting to see what the "top secret" intake has to show. We'll see...

dalparadise · 03-25-2010, 10:37 PM

I gotta think Smoky has something up his sleeve. It'll be interesting to see the results.

Josh@STILLEN · 03-25-2010, 10:42 PM

Be sure you allow enough time for the ECU to adapt AWAY from the Gen 3's before you do back to back dynos. If you're not starting from a stock intake setup, just putting something on after the Gen 3's will require 7-8 wot runs to get the ECU to utilizing the new intake. Just as you would from the stock to the Gen 3's..

Baker · 03-25-2010, 11:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Josh@STILLEN

Be sure you allow enough time for the ECU to adapt AWAY from the Gen 3's before you do back to back dynos. If you're not starting from a stock intake setup, just putting something on after the Gen 3's will require 7-8 wot runs to get the ECU to utilizing the new intake. Just as you would from the stock to the Gen 3's..

Thanks, Josh. We'll note that.

Our interest is to perform as unbiased a test as possible. We have Jason Langley, one of the top GT-R Certified technicians anywhere, working on Mothra and administering this test. He's going to make sure nothing biases our results.

This test is specifically for you guys here on the370Z.com. We hope you're as interested as we are in seeing how this comes out!

B1nks · 03-25-2010, 11:25 PM

In for pics/results. I would also like to see what kind of results the exhaust will provide. What time tomorrow you doing this stuff ? I gotta be up in Houston tomorrow anyways !

Baker · 03-26-2010, 12:20 AM

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Originally Posted by B1nks

In for pics/results. I would also like to see what kind of results the exhaust will provide. What time tomorrow you doing this stuff ? I gotta be up in Houston tomorrow anyways !

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ZForce · 03-26-2010, 12:32 AM

In for the video results.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Josh@STILLEN

Be sure you allow enough time for the ECU to adapt AWAY from the Gen 3's before you do back to back dynos. If you're not starting from a stock intake setup, just putting something on after the Gen 3's will require 7-8 wot runs to get the ECU to utilizing the new intake. Just as you would from the stock to the Gen 3's..

Interesting, this may explain my dyno numbers. I went from a stock setup straight to.......... with three pulls on the dyno.

kekermahoney · 03-26-2010, 12:43 AM

Ifr

BOLIO 671 · 03-26-2010, 02:13 AM

I'd go with Stillen's G3's...Would be interesting to see though

sylenze · 03-26-2010, 02:29 AM

i know ur doing hood up and hood down... are u also doing bumper off and bumper on?...bumper off would give stillen the edge...

View Poll Results: Which intake do you think will come out on top?
Stillen G3	73	47.40%
Top Secret	48	31.17%
They will be essentially equal in HP gain.	33	21.43%
Voters: 154. You may not vote on this poll

03-25-2010, 09:13 PM	#1 (permalink)
Baker Enthusiast Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 310 Drives: Top Secret 370Z Rep Power: 15	Stillen vs. Smoky: your take on intakes So, the parts from Top Secret and Amuse are in and ready to go on Project: Mothra. We thought we'd take this opportunity to do a little experiment. As you may know from Project Mothra we have Stillen headers and cats, NST pulleys and a few other things already on the car. We now also have a Stillen G3 intake on the car, as that seems to be the benchmark for performance. Tomorrow, we'll do a dyno pull with the Stillen intake. Then, we'll swap out the Stillen with a Top Secret intake -- same car, same day, all things equal. We'd like to see for ourselves which one comes out on top. Check the Project Mothra web site for the official results beginning Friday and for updates on the build. In the meantime, what do you think we'll find? UPDATE: The results are in! Stillen G3 CAI: 281hp, 217tq Top Secret CAI: 286hp, 224tq Last edited by Baker; 03-26-2010 at 08:31 PM. Reason: UPDATE

03-25-2010, 09:18 PM	#2 (permalink)
Red370 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Kaiserslautern, Germany Posts: 4,391 Drives: your mom to church Rep Power: 296	I think the G3's are in the ideal location and of all the intakes, they have shown the best gains, at best I think the TS intakes will be equal in power production. __________________ 2011 Mustang 5.0 \| 3.55's \| Lethal Performance off road H-Pipe \| Magnaflow Muffler Delete \| JLT CAI/Bama tuned 417whp/ 404 ft/lbs

03-25-2010, 09:25 PM	#3 (permalink)
theDreamer A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Texas Posts: 30,879 Drives: 370z Rep Power: 4210	Tough call, I think Stillen will edge out slighty since you have already opened up some of the back half. Do we have pictures of the TS intakes yet? __________________ theDreamer's Z // Fast Intentions // Uprev // GTM // HKS // TEIN theDreamer's Silvia // URAS // GREDDY Houston Zs // Facebook // Twitter // Instagram

03-25-2010, 09:36 PM	#4 (permalink)
Chriz Track Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Houston TX Posts: 626 Drives: '10 370z PW 7AT Rep Power: 16	in for results __________________ PW 7AT w/Sports Pkg Hook Em!

03-25-2010, 09:57 PM	#6 (permalink)
bejan Base Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Chatsworth, CA Posts: 70 Drives: 09 Nissan 370Z PW M6 Rep Power: 15	I think the stock intakes are the best. However, it would be interesting to see what the "top secret" intake has to show. We'll see...

03-25-2010, 10:37 PM	#7 (permalink)
dalparadise The370Z.com Sponsor Join Date: May 2009 Location: Houston Posts: 354 Drives: 2010 Z Roadster T/S Rep Power: 16	I gotta think Smoky has something up his sleeve. It'll be interesting to see the results. __________________ 2010 Platinum Graphite Roadster - Tour/Sport/6MT/GReddy SE catback/B&M short shift If the top is up, it must be parked.

03-25-2010, 10:42 PM	#8 (permalink)
Josh@STILLEN The370Z.com Sponsor Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Costa Mesa, CA Posts: 1,197 Drives: 2004 G35 Coupe 6MT Rep Power: 533	Be sure you allow enough time for the ECU to adapt AWAY from the Gen 3's before you do back to back dynos. If you're not starting from a stock intake setup, just putting something on after the Gen 3's will require 7-8 wot runs to get the ECU to utilizing the new intake. Just as you would from the stock to the Gen 3's..

03-25-2010, 11:25 PM	#10 (permalink)
B1nks Track Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Houston,Tx Posts: 721 Drives: 2009 370Z Base 6MT Rep Power: 507	In for pics/results. I would also like to see what kind of results the exhaust will provide. What time tomorrow you doing this stuff ? I gotta be up in Houston tomorrow anyways !

03-26-2010, 12:43 AM	#13 (permalink)
kekermahoney Base Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: NJ Posts: 57 Drives: 370z sport 6spd Rep Power: 16	Ifr

03-26-2010, 02:13 AM	#14 (permalink)
BOLIO 671 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: GUAHAN Posts: 1,198 Drives: To & From then Back Rep Power: 3399	I'd go with Stillen's G3's...Would be interesting to see though __________________ 2013 Nismo Z34 / FI TT #091 / IG: @lilzilla_z34

03-26-2010, 02:29 AM	#15 (permalink)
sylenze Base Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: So Cal/SB county Posts: 222 Drives: 370z 6mt+SP PG Rep Power: 16	i know ur doing hood up and hood down... are u also doing bumper off and bumper on?...bumper off would give stillen the edge...

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