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Originally Posted by Red370 But this would be a problem, I actively use my cruise control It doesn't interfere with normal cruise control usage. To switch between maps. you hold

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Old 03-25-2010, 04:32 PM   #76 (permalink)
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But this would be a problem, I actively use my cruise control
It doesn't interfere with normal cruise control usage. To switch between maps. you hold down the toggle in the coast/set position, then while keeping the toggle held down, you tap the cancel button the number of times corresponding to the map you want to load. So for instance, I have my anti-theft in slot 3, so I'd tap the cancel button 3 times to load it. The only way I could see this interfering with anything is if you were trying to switch maps while you were actually in motion with the CC on. But you're not supposed to switch maps while in motion anyway.
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Now what I need since I dont have the Nav is a touch screen that I can hook my cobb to and see and do all my stuff right there.
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I thought you were being a little sacastic in that post.

Does anyone have the Osiris here? And did they get good gains?
How was I being sarcastic? Care to elaborate?
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How was I being sarcastic? Care to elaborate?
It just kinda read that way I guess. Atleast to me. Not mad, it was kinda funny really. I guess I just read between the words.

Actually it was Dreamers comments I was reading not yours. Oppps.
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I will be getting it when I get my tune next month (after LTH), will post a review plus some pictures of the software, etc.
Are you gonna dyno tune, Dreamer?
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I will be getting it when I get my tune next month (after LTH), will post a review plus some pictures of the software, etc.
After the ups and downs with uprev, and people getting tuned and some showing good and some showing bad gains, I wonder what if anything have they (meaning all companies) done to get better results?
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I will dyno tune, hoping to go to Austin to meet (again) the Uprev team but a shop in Houston now offers dyno tuning with Uprev so not sure yet.
I have never gotten into tuning and will be glad to have someone do it for me at first, but like many things I do I will learn myself on what to do and such.
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After the ups and downs with uprev, and people getting tuned and some showing good and some showing bad gains, I wonder what if anything have they (meaning all companies) done to get better results?
Yeah I'm eager to know the answer to that question myself. But I just want to remind you guys the context of this little side-discussion on UpRev vs. Cobb. Vegitto-kun expressed a concern that he was planning to do all these mods that would make him run lean, and that he wouldn't be able to dyno tune to correct it, as he's over in Belgium. So we're just trying to point out to him that he's not screwed. He can go with either Cobb or Uprev, and either one will allow him to send his data back and get an e-tune. Even if that e-tune didn't yield substantial gains, it'd at least address his concern about running lean, as his AFR would presumably get corrected once he uploads his e-tune. That's the only thing that I was trying to convey, anyway.
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After the ups and downs with uprev, and people getting tuned and some showing good and some showing bad gains, I wonder what if anything have they (meaning all companies) done to get better results?
There really are no good or bad results.
The thing you have to look at with any tune is where did they start with.
Some cars come with solid tunes from factory which respond well to aftermarket parts while others will try to fight the change until you tune the car.

Also: I believe no company really has a solid tuning software out yet (meaning they both just unlock AF adjustments and that is about it). VVEL/timing/etc. will be the major game changer.
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I will dyno tune, hoping to go to Austin to meet (again) the Uprev team but a shop in Houston now offers dyno tuning with Uprev so not sure yet.
I have never gotten into tuning and will be glad to have someone do it for me at first, but like many things I do I will learn myself on what to do and such.
think you could do a dyno with just the map, then another after they dyno tune?
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think you could do a dyno with just the map, then another after they dyno tune?
You mean with the base reflash prior to adjustments? I think they'll automatically do that. Actually, they have to in order to establish a baseline for the tune.
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Yeah I'm eager to know the answer to that question myself. But I just want to remind you guys the context of this little side-discussion on UpRev vs. Cobb. Vegitto-kun expressed a concern that he was planning to do all these mods that would make him run lean, and that he wouldn't be able to dyno tune to correct it, as he's over in Belgium. So we're just trying to point out to him that he's not screwed. He can go with either Cobb or Uprev, and either one will allow him to send his data back and get an e-tune. Even if that e-tune didn't yield substantial gains, it'd at least address his concern about running lean, as his AFR would presumably get corrected once he uploads his e-tune. That's the only thing that I was trying to convey, anyway.

True and the canned map that you get without having to send your info back and forth will take care of that too. I get my Cobb today and I will see if I can get some AF reading before and after to see how they changed the AF with just a canned tune.
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You mean with the base reflash prior to adjustments? I think they'll automatically do that. Actually, they have to in order to establish a baseline for the tune.
Yea a dyno after they load the new map and then one after they tweak it on the dyno. To get an idea how much the dyno tune will get you over a canned map.
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yeah i'd like to see that myself
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