Fast Intentions street legal?

joentown · 03-13-2010, 03:27 PM

I've just ordered my 3010 370Z and will be replacing stock with Fast Intentions TDX cat back exhaust system which I believe is street legal in Pennyslyvania.

However, I want to add FI's high flow cats to replace the stock catalytic converters. Can anyone tell me if the car will be street legal in PA with this configuration? I will only do it if I'm street legal.

Thanks

Nick911sc · 03-13-2010, 04:32 PM

Technically I believe in many states changing the exhaust or cats itself is considered "illegal" but that doesn't mean it's enforced.

As far as the HFC's go I am not formiliar with the laws in PA. Do they do a sniffer test for emissions or just a OBD reading?

shabarivas · 03-13-2010, 04:55 PM

How the hell are they going to know? If you play it smart and dont attract unwanted attention you will never find yourself with a cop looking under your car...

tonybui · 03-13-2010, 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by shabarivas

How the hell are they going to know? If you play it smart and dont attract unwanted attention you will never find yourself with a cop looking under your car...

They are not deaf though

SophiaZ · 03-13-2010, 05:12 PM

Yea, I think I've read somewhere that all HFC's are illegal. Something to with with emissions..or some crap I forget. But just do like I will, get the hfc's and put the stock ones back on in 3 years when your due for inspection...OR leave them on and if they fail you..than put the stock on and switch back after you pass....

theDreamer · 03-13-2010, 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by tonybui

They are not deaf though

You find me a cop who can tell stock v. aftermarket on a simple exhaust change, now start throwing in HFC or LTH and other things and it depends.

m4a1mustang · 03-13-2010, 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by theDreamer

You find me a cop who can tell stock v. aftermarket on a simple exhaust change, now start throwing in HFC or LTH and other things and it depends.

I think most cops can tell when they see or hear an aftermarket exhaust. 99% of the time they are car guys like us.

theDreamer · 03-13-2010, 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

I think most cops can tell when they see or hear an aftermarket exhaust. 99% of the time they are car guys like us.

I agree many are car guys, but I doubt many of them know much beyond what they work on or around them.

m4a1mustang · 03-13-2010, 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by theDreamer

I agree many are car guys, but I doubt many of them know much beyond what they work on or around them.

Well they know that even stock Mustangs/Camaros/Corvettes/Zs are not loud from the factory.

I mean, you can look at the back of my car and you just KNOW that I have aftermarket crap on there.

theDreamer · 03-13-2010, 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

Well they know that even stock Mustangs/Camaros/Corvettes/Zs are not loud from the factory.

I mean, you can look at the back of my car and you just KNOW that I have aftermarket crap on there.

True, most aftermarket exhaust visually are completely different.

LinPark · 03-13-2010, 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by joentown

I've just ordered my 3010 370Z and will be replacing stock with Fast Intentions TDX cat back exhaust system which I believe is street legal in Pennyslyvania.

However, I want to add FI's high flow cats to replace the stock catalytic converters. Can anyone tell me if the car will be street legal in PA with this configuration? I will only do it if I'm street legal.

Thanks

DAG! Post some pics of this 3010 370Z!!! Who woulda thought the 370Z would be made for a thousand years.

If PA is anything like NJ, all you'd have to do is pass the inspection each year for emissions. And, if PA is anything like NJ, there are quite a few options to insure you pass each year.

Cyberium · 03-14-2010, 06:52 AM

I'm up in vermont and I used to have an Eclipse with Headers, HFC and an aftermarket catback exhaust and it passed inspection everytime... even a visual inspection. Definitely not legal.

As long as you don't have any check engine lights on and your not throwing any codes you will pass. I mean, it's a brand new car... some places will pass you just by taking a look at it.

FuszNissan · 03-14-2010, 07:42 AM

I don't know the db rating, but I am sure they are legal on there own. Once you put HFC's on, i think you are past the legal db rating. Most cops don't care unless you are driving stupid to just add on to the ticket.

elmz · 03-14-2010, 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Cyberium

I'm up in vermont and I used to have an Eclipse with Headers, HFC and an aftermarket catback exhaust and it passed inspection everytime... even a visual inspection. Definitely not legal.

When you say "it passed inspection" do you mean smog?

m4a1mustang · 03-14-2010, 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by elmz

When you say "it passed inspection" do you mean smog?

Probably state safety inspection.

Here in VA we have an annual State inspection where they check to make sure your car is road worthy... so everything important has to work... like wipers, lights, horn, turn signals, windows, brakes, tires, etc. They usually take a look under the car for a visual inspection of the exhaust system.

I got burned once when the guy looked underneath my Mustang, saw my off-road X pipe, and said, "where are the cats?"

I wonder how they would react to HFCs, because it's obvious that HFCs are not stock as there is no heat shield around the cats like on the OEM parts. You aren't supposed to alter a properly functioning emissions system so technically they could fail you...

03-13-2010, 03:27 PM	#1 (permalink)
joentown Base Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Philly, PA Posts: 70 Drives: 370Z '10 Tour Sport Rep Power: 17	Fast Intentions street legal? I've just ordered my 3010 370Z and will be replacing stock with Fast Intentions TDX cat back exhaust system which I believe is street legal in Pennyslyvania. However, I want to add FI's high flow cats to replace the stock catalytic converters. Can anyone tell me if the car will be street legal in PA with this configuration? I will only do it if I'm street legal. Thanks

03-14-2010, 06:52 AM	#12 (permalink)
Cyberium Enthusiast Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Vermont Posts: 379 Drives: 370z Touring \| Sport Rep Power: 16	I'm up in vermont and I used to have an Eclipse with Headers, HFC and an aftermarket catback exhaust and it passed inspection everytime... even a visual inspection. Definitely not legal. As long as you don't have any check engine lights on and your not throwing any codes you will pass. I mean, it's a brand new car... some places will pass you just by taking a look at it. __________________ Stillen G3 Intakes \| F. I TDX

03-14-2010, 07:42 AM	#13 (permalink)
FuszNissan A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2009 Location: St. Louis Posts: 14,275 Drives: Pure Sex Rep Power: 542	I don't know the db rating, but I am sure they are legal on there own. Once you put HFC's on, i think you are past the legal db rating. Most cops don't care unless you are driving stupid to just add on to the ticket. __________________ Mods: Too Many to list! LouFuszNissan ZDAYZ 2012

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Nick911sc A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Long Island, New York Posts: 1,698 Drives: 2010 Nissan GT-R Rep Power: 20	Technically I believe in many states changing the exhaust or cats itself is considered "illegal" but that doesn't mean it's enforced. As far as the HFC's go I am not formiliar with the laws in PA. Do they do a sniffer test for emissions or just a OBD reading?

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shabarivas A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Sacramento, CA Posts: 2,188 Drives: 370z MB 6mt Rep Power: 914	How the hell are they going to know? If you play it smart and dont attract unwanted attention you will never find yourself with a cop looking under your car...

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SophiaZ A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: South Jersey Posts: 1,463 Drives: 2020 50th anniv 7AT Rep Power: 6733	Yea, I think I've read somewhere that all HFC's are illegal. Something to with with emissions..or some crap I forget. But just do like I will, get the hfc's and put the stock ones back on in 3 years when your due for inspection...OR leave them on and if they fail you..than put the stock on and switch back after you pass....