Ready for Top Secret titanium exhaust
 

I thought you'd like a view few of us get to see. This is called Project Mothra and is a Top Secret project on a base 370Z. The CBE is going on next...


Project Mothra | Facebook

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What am i looking at exactly ? Some resonated test pipes on the VHR ? Also that video on the facebook of the baseline needs numbers !

How's this:

I think those a HFC...

Where is the exhaust though? I want to see it. :excited:

hfc's? i am not impressed Yet.

they look exactly the same at the berk hfcs... and?...

please click facebook link people then READ the are actually stillen headers/cats, top secret is only making the intake, exhaust, and other rice parts, I have lost all hope i had for anything made by top secret, it will cost 3000 dollars and sound just like the greddy there review done oops forgot it was titanium- $5000

Edit: STRAIGHT JDM YO FTMFW SHYTS ILL, MAN GET SOME HELLA FLUSH RIMS ON THAT RIDE !!!!

ALso it will be getting the 1200 or 1500 dollar top secret REFLASH enough said

^^ for their sake I hope not, the Z community is about value and performance, if you want to make parts that expensive market to Porsche drivers. However the picture looks like a full titanium headers and HFC, basically a long tube header. Only concerning thing that I can see is the O2 sensor placement

nope it's stillen headers and stillen hfc the car isn't a topsecret car it's owned by a nissan dealership that is haveing the topsecret parts made for it.

I hate how they make a teaser post and don't update, hope they get around to it. Last I heard that Top Secret picked up 3 Z's in a joint project with the dealership and each one is getting a different setup.

Just a note here -- and I apologize for inaccuracies, as I'm an enthusiastic observer of this project and sometimes get ahead of myself -- The exhaust is not on the car yet. I spoke to the dealership today and the Top Secret exhaust will actually be a stainless steel setup they have designed specifically to be a value-driven piece for Z drivers. So, it'll be much more affordable and still deliver TS-style sound and performance.

For the record, the owner of this dealership already has a GT-R that is fully Top-Secreted out and is probably unattainable to all but the most die-hard enthusiasts out there. They have no reason to try to do this to the Z. The Z they are building is more of an exercise in making a cool show/track car that uses some heretofore hard-to-get parts and makes them more accessible to people like me. I, for one, think it's pretty cool to see a dealership take on such a project.

thanks for the clarification, I'm looking forward to see the results on the exhaust, I need something nice to go with the long tube headers

This was supposed to show the dyno chart.


so 269 bone stock ? That seems a bit high on their dyno. I dyno'd at 276 on my second pull with G3 intakes and BERK CBE. I do have bigger wheels/tires but that shouldn't matter. I was told they had a 370z on there that had headers and light weight flywheel on there from Baker Jackson and it put 280 with UpRev tune.

I was also told that GT-R put down 480ish I believe.

aahhh ok stainless so just drop the price to 2500 also 480 for a gtr is nothing i expect more when you are using the "top secret rice god" name

edit: noticed typo meant 480 point still stands that a crappy exhaust and a tune for those cars

I think you might wanna re-read and EDIT..but I got kinda what you're saying I guess. Also, Dalparadise, who are you exactly ? What I mean is, are you a 370z owner that's participating in the tune portion of it or just a bystander or.. ? Not trying to come across rude but I was just curious.

wait you want me to re read? or... just saying if it was titanium it'd be near 5000 if its stainless 2500 i don't care how "value oriented" it would be

I just bought a Roadster from them a couple of months ago and began inquiring about some mods after noticing the GT-R they have and hearing about the Top Secret things they have on it.

I became very interested in the 370Z project and encouraged them to come on this site and talk about it.

I'm in advertising, so naturally I offered to help them get the word out on this car. I have no personal connection with it, though. Now, if they'd like me to test out any of these components on my Z, I'd be happy to. :tup:

PS -- they were trying to adjust some settings on the GT-R yesterday during the dyno pulls. I hear it's good for at least 100 more horsepower than it showed.

Just a little clarification
 

Ok everyone, I thought I'd offer some clarification on what is going on.

I do realize that a $2,500 exhaust system may not necessarly be "Value Oriented", but thats the point of a project, everyone puts different things on the car for different reasons. The Powerhouse body kit, (I personally LOVE) is not for everyone either, its polarizing to some, and awesome to others.

The same goes for the Top Secret PROcess tune. Having had a Cobb on the GT-R, we saw a chance to do something fun and different (personally I'm not a huge fan of the Cobb, its a good product, just not my favorite). And the GT-R is currently at 519 WHP, but is not close to done!!!!

As for the Dyno, the first run is correct. It was re-tested yesterday with headers, HFC, lightweight flywheel, pulleys, AP racing brakes and short shifter, and those results will be up shortly, but the first one was bone stock, I assure you, no tune, no HFC's, nothing but a 2010 Z. It was done on a mustang dyno at secret services in Houston if that helps!

Hope this helps clear a few things up. Nice to meet everyone!

Use a Dyno Dynamics next time, I made 278.5 yesterday, bone-stock. :stirthepot:

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Ok so it's titanium and it cost $6,500 dollars, my thinking here is this: you pay as much as a supercharger costs, you and you get a Fookin Y-PIPE back exhaust that retains the most restrictive part of exhaust system maybe 10hp maybe. This has officially surpassed the ridiculously over priced nature of even the Porsche moniker. This just adds proof to my arguement about topsecret making overpriced racerboy rice parts.

http://photos-g.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos..._4733396_n.jpg

note the factory y-pipe heatsheilds, my suggestion to baker jackson: ditch that crap and go fast intentions or berk or stillen, or hell Invidia Gemini

I thought we already covered the fact that the Baker-Jackson car has the stainless Top Secret exhaust. Wow, you really hate TS, huh?

Uh, well, to be honest, six thousand dollars is insane for an exhaust, no matter who makes it -- especially for a car like the 370.

Even if you are using the steel version -- it probably -still- is very expensive compared to what is in the market. That, and like most other JDM exhausts it isn't even a full CBE.

Meh.

I'm not using it at all. I'm merely interested in this build that happens to be using a lot of Top Secret parts I haven't ever seen before. I haven't paid a dime for this stuff, but I have heard it on the car. It is amazing and purportedly makes great power.

For whatever it's worth, I believe the price is in line with the Amuse titanium exhaust phelan put on. I'm not a customer for that one either, but think it's pretty nice, too.

I don't know -- is there something wrong with admiring things that are out of my price range?

The you was not specifically you, but anyone in general who would consider it.

No, admire whatever you like. Just the same, is there anything wrong with rolling your eyes at incredible price mark-ups simply because of name and place of origin?

I mean, I have no problem with saying "oh hey that is nice" or whatever, but to me it is like the Oakley Elite line of sunglasses/watches. They are honestly the same exact thing just in a different color -- and $5,000+. The only reason they are expensive is because they are expensive. That sort of masturbatory thing sort of irks me and boggles my mind, but hey, whatever floats your boat.

Yeah, I get that. Changing a color and pricing on brand alone get an eye roll from me too. Top Secret, however, proves to be better every time it's put to the test. So, maybe it is worth it...just not worth it to me. :icon17:

A Tag Heur and a Timex both do the exact same thing, yet cost thousands of dollars difference. Call me an idiot, but I really like the Tag.

actually my exhaust would come out cheaper than this lol

Lol...$3-$4-$5,000 pipes? Are you people insane? I will keep my opinion to myself, but WTF ARE YOU DOING????

Maybe pictures will help you understand.

This

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_qICXj0bXET...ztn%5B1%5D.jpg

Does exactly the same as this

http://photos-g.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos..._4733396_n.jpg

Air flows through it and then out of it...that's it.

And don't talk to me about weight, you don't have an F1 car.

Forgot to mention no one ever sees it and it sits 3 inches away from the asphalt.

No offense meant. I like shiny things too, but damn guys.

:iagree: i'm not sure myself whether I hate or I'm just in a state of dumbfounded disbelief at the position Topsecret is in with the products and pricing they produce. Also nutinmuch i was actually going to make a post about those designer blue jeans being the same as this but i passed out last night in the middle of it, gotta stop staying up so late.

Also it's called superfluous spending.

Well,

Mothra Sound Clip

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i must say i like how that sounds

yep so it's a greedy se with hfc's that is more restrictive? I'll play ball how much is the stainless version supposed to cost?

Not trying to justify the price, which is a bit high, but that's probably only true if you're just looking at the flow itself. If you're talking about sound waves, they are affected by things as minute as a 1 degree bend here instead of a 2 degree bend there. People seem to forget that research and development isn't free (price isn't just the sum of the materials involved), and to get something that sounds that good, I'm sure they had to do a hell of a lot of both.

Top secret and most other jdm companies are all a waste of money. Inferior design less power and more than double the price makes no sence. Just cuz of the fact the factory y pipe is retained the exhaust will never be able to perform like others. For example fi.

Point taken, but on that same token...You would need to sit with an average exhaust shop charging the normal rate of $75 an hour for 66 hours to get to the same price of that exhaust. That's you by yourself to a single exhaust so there would be no spreading the development cost across multiple exhausts you're selling.

When a company makes an exhaust, they don't have a specific pitch or sound goal, they just want to make it sound "great" so when they think they have a winner they stop. As far as power goes, they don't have a target for that either. Tiny tweaks in angles, bends and smoothness will not net more than an hp or two from the original main design.

I definitely appreciate a cool exhaust, but I could never in a million years justify the price of one. That's all I'm getting at. Specially since I don't think Top Secret makes better performing exhausts than your Stillen or Fast Intentions.

Say that they made 4-5hp more from the top secret exhaust....well that exhaust is $4000 more than a Stillen one...youre paying $1,000 per horsepower for what? their research and development?

Again, just my opinion and I don't mean to offend anyone or start a flame fest so don't by any means take it personally.

Hey everyone,

Thanks for all the comments, we don't mind the back and forth at all. As for the Y Pipe that part is coming, it just didnt make it to the states in time to have it installed yet, so that will be changing soon.

As for the price, sure it is significantly more expensive than others, and we respect the fact that not everyone would spend near this money for exhaust. For us, it was about being different in some areas. We definately could have gone with a Stillen or Fast Intentions Exhaust, and all were considered, but when we sat down and thought about it, if we wanted to build something different, we needed to go in a different direction. Also, it is nice to have the only one out, at least for a while.......

Is it necessarly logical to spend 2 or 3 times the amount of a regular stainless exhaust, probably not, but its also not logical to have a front bumper 3 to 4 inches off the ground (especially in Houston). In the end, its all for fun! We welcome any critique or criticism.

One more note, from Project Mothra

In Japan, an otaku is a fanatic. Actually, it’s a term used to identify true obsession. Pure, unadulterated obsession.

Americans are otakus about their cars. Mostly, we’re otakus about the things that make them go faster. How else could someone justify spending over $1000 (or even $300-$500) on an air intake for their car, which is nothing more than a couple of metal tubes and filters?
You can’t. Stop trying.

That is, until you understand what’s behind the tubes and filters and everything else Smoky Nagata engineers and designs.

We met the man today, and while we’re not the type to be star-struck, it was really, really cool...

Read more on the blog: Project Mothra

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Omg that sounds brilliant!

It should be noted that video is the Mothra car with:

Top-Secret stainless steel cat-back exhaust system
Top-Secret Dual Cold Air Intake System
Stillen Ceramic Coated Headers
370Z PROcess ECU tune by Top-Secret
Stillen High-Flow Catalytic Converters

All are contributing to the best sounding 370Z we've ever heard. Hear it for yourself tonight at Import Reactor in The Woodlands.