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Old 02-09-2009, 02:53 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Today I would like to talk about the Zele titanium quad tip exhaust Type 1. This exhaust has a very innovative design as well as wonderful quality; which coming from Zele, why would you expect anything less?

Zele is a company that is well known for their distinct methods of tuning. Zele started as a company who purchased vehicles modified and tuned them to what they believed was best, and then sold them to the public as a whole car.

After many years of pushing the limits of tuning, Zele decided to broaden their horizons to new areas of the industry. Most enthusiasts know of Zele through their incredible breakthroughs and distinct products for the R35 GTR and the new 370Z. Just by looking at the current products that Zele has offered to the public, you can tell that their classy style is one that will outlast the trends.

This exhaust is a perfect example of Zele form and functionality. This rear section exhaust is full titanium with a gradation finish that you will only find in Japan. This intricate quad tip design is meant to increase the flow and distribute air evenly while giving it a more exotic look for aesthetics. As you can see the canisters are relatively small in size which means that the sound will be noticeable from a distance. These canisters, when fused with the quad tip design and thicker titanium walls, grants an overall tone that is deep and beefy, and still allows lower decibel ratings for daily driving.

In the end, a well designed exhaust that improves the car in all aspects: weight reduction, performance, and aesthetics.



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That looks real nice! Will this fit with the OEM rear bumper as I've only seen this exhaust matched with the Zele kit so far?
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So much quality in these exhausts.
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That looks real nice! Will this fit with the OEM rear bumper as I've only seen this exhaust matched with the Zele kit so far?
I cannot say with 100% accuracy, but from what information I have gathered the exhaust should have minimal fitment issues (if any) when mounted with the OEM rear bumper.

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Here is a rear shot of the 370Z with the Zele exhaust for everyone's enjoyment.



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Having been fabricated from Nippon Steel, it is a definite that this exhaust will make significant power
I fail to see how the use of Nippon steel will matter on the power output. The cross section of the tubing, bend radius, and lengths can all be achieved with a wide range of steels ranging from a cheap ferritic like 409 to a Ti stabilized 321 austenitic. The choice of material and service environment will dictate the longevity of the final product. This assumes a skilled craftsman is doing the work.

All of the above may be purchased from a multitude of mills in numerous countries.
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I fail to see how the use of Nippon steel will matter on the power output. The cross section of the tubing, bend radius, and lengths can all be achieved with a wide range of steels ranging from a cheap ferritic like 409 to a Ti stabilized 321 austenitic. The choice of material and service environment will dictate the longevity of the final product. This assumes a skilled craftsman is doing the work.

All of the above may be purchased from a multitude of mills in numerous countries.
You bring up a good point.

You are correct about how the material of the item itself determines very little of the power gains. Looking back now, my previous statement may not have been the best choice of words. The point that I was trying to make was simply this:

These exhausts have shown very nice power gains. What makes them more impressive is the fabrication process that is invested in their quality; from the method of welding, to the thickness of the piping, to the material being used. All of these factor in to the overall design of the exhaust making them lighter and stronger. This results in significant weight savings in order to allow the owners to unleash the power that was previously held back from all of the additional weight.

Also, yes these exhausts may be purchased from different companies. However, only a few are direct, authorized distributors for companies such as Amuse, Zele, and MCR. In order to guarantee more accuracy, and better lead times, it is best to order from a distributor who is direct with these companies.

My apologies for the mixed signals and thank you for your input and knowledge. No doubt that this will now be even more of an educational piece for the members of this community.

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The exhausts look great, but the cut-outs to fit them look absolutely horrible. Also, I don't know how a quad exhaust is going to fit with the OEM bumper, unless there's a new insert section. I just hope it's a little less hacked up than the picture.
In the end it all depends on your personal taste. I myself prefer the exhaust by Powerhouse Amuse. The bends, welding, gradation finishes, and cutting are all very pristine. Some people like the quad exhaust system because it is different and innovative.

What do you look for in an exhaust?

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This exhaust is designed by ARC.

ARC is very well known and respected in the Nissan and Mitsubishi community. Most of their products are made in house which helps to further ensure the quality they try so hard to represent. Specializing in mostly performance parts such as exhaust, forced induction, and cooling components, ARC is able to combine performance with a nice bling factor and they combine it well.

This exhaust is full titanium with double tube piping on the tips. Of course no ARC product is complete without the ARC labels. ARC products are always recognized about a mile away from the elaborate labeling of their company, which is made clear on the mirror image of this exhaust.

As I have stated in the previous entries, Amuse is my favorite company but this exhaust is a close second. Most likely there will be more Amuse exhausts on the road than ARC exhausts simply because ARC pricing has been known to be in the higher ranges.

This ARC exhaust is able to represent some of the most exquisite styling, functionality, quality, and rarity that JDM tuning has to offer.



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I cant help but chuckle a little when reading through this. In the LSX community, nobody really cares how exhaust looks at ALL. It all comes down to these aspects, in this order generally:

-Dyno-proven power
-Sound
-Ground Clearance

I see all this titanium this, "only the finest from Japan" that - people need to realize there are probably plenty of domestic manufacturers who make the same crap for much cheaper heh. We aren't talking magic here - the designs are all similar. Mandrel bent steel or titanium, going into mufflers (which are probably very similar). The long and short is, you wont see huge performance gains on a catback. Ever. Maybe a 5 or 6 wheel horsepower at most. Ricers expecting to get 20+ horsepower from their catback, may as well abandon all hope right now.

Until you start working the entire system (headers back), the catback is merely for sound in the end. And if you're willing to blow the RIDICULOUS amounts of money that these big name manufacturers want, why not give your local fab shop a try and have them custom make you a system that will probably perform just as well for cheaper? If you honestly think the only place you can get a decent-performing exhaust is Japan, some people need to get their head checked lol. Just my 2 cents .
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How much do these cost ?
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I cant help but chuckle a little when reading through this. In the LSX community, nobody really cares how exhaust looks at ALL. It all comes down to these aspects, in this order generally:

-Dyno-proven power
-Sound
-Ground Clearance

I see all this titanium this, "only the finest from Japan" that - people need to realize there are probably plenty of domestic manufacturers who make the same crap for much cheaper heh. We aren't talking magic here - the designs are all similar. Mandrel bent steel or titanium, going into mufflers (which are probably very similar). The long and short is, you wont see huge performance gains on a catback. Ever. Maybe a 5 or 6 wheel horsepower at most. Ricers expecting to get 20+ horsepower from their catback, may as well abandon all hope right now.

Until you start working the entire system (headers back), the catback is merely for sound in the end. And if you're willing to blow the RIDICULOUS amounts of money that these big name manufacturers want, why not give your local fab shop a try and have them custom make you a system that will probably perform just as well for cheaper? If you honestly think the only place you can get a decent-performing exhaust is Japan, some people need to get their head checked lol. Just my 2 cents .
Catback's are merely for sound in the end?only? What are you talking about dude? NO disrespect, but you sound like the ricer. It's possible to gain more then just 5-6whp from an catback especially if there's some backpressure to relieve and some tune. All cars are different maybe if you're talking about a civic that statement might be true. It's just N/A cars don't see as much gain as a turbo'd car because they don't create as much backpressure. I don't know about you but I like:

-Beautiful seemless weldings
-Build quality/presentation
-Perfomance gains
-db levels appropriate for street use.

I'm not rich, but I don't mind paying for quality products.


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Catback's are merely for sound in the end?only? What are you talking about dude? NO disrespect, but you sound like the ricer. It's possible to gain more then just 5-6whp from an catback especially if there's some backpressure to relieve and some tune. All cars are different maybe if you're talking about a civic that statement might be true. It's just N/A cars don't see as much gain as a turbo'd car because they don't create as much backpressure. I don't know about you but I like:

-Beautiful seemless weldings
-Build quality/presentation
-Perfomance gains
-db levels appropriate for street use.

I'm not rich, but I don't mind paying for quality products.


-Fit and finish
Your back pressure doesn't generally start at the catback. I hate to tell ya...and as soon as you start talking about a tune, you're adding a whole new element to the equation, and proven my point.

Im talking catback ONLY, no tune, nothing else. You wont gain much at all from it, more than likely.

Now, a header-back exhaust + tune? I'd certainly hope to see some competent gains from that.
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Yes backpressure doesn't start from the catback, but the catback is part of the cause to backpressure. It all depends on the car your working with you can add headers,tp, a catback+tune like on a civic and won't see much gain. The statement that you can only see 5-6whp and just for sound on a catback is not true. For example some turbo'd cars see around 15+whp w/o tune. I think the new Z can probably put down more then 5-6whp with a catback+tune.
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Yes backpressure doesn't start from the catback, but the catback is part of the cause to backpressure. It all depends on the car your working with you can add headers,tp, a catback+tune like on a civic and won't see much gain. The statement that you can only see 5-6whp and just for sound on a catback is not true. For example some turbo'd cars see around 15+whp w/o tune. I think the new Z can probably put down more then 5-6whp with a catback+tune.
Sigh, maybe I should have been more specific.

Im not talking ANY car here, Im talking the 370Z, which is a non-turbocharged vehicle. Backpressure isnt nearly as much of an issue. Hence why, a simple catback and NOTHING else, will make very little difference.

I'm fairly sure there's already some dyno graphs showing very small horsepower changes on full exhaust setups WITH test pipes and no tune. Like, 8-10 WHP. Ditch the test pipes, I bet that will drop even more of course.
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