Drop-in K&N filters - a waste of time/money?

LiquidZ · 01-16-2009, 11:51 AM

The Stillen gen 3's were producing a good 16-18 hp on various cars. I think these would be a great addition.

Nismo 370z · 01-16-2009, 04:33 PM

Those are Stillens claims. I dont think any intake setup will add 16hp. If we are lucky we will get maximum 5-7whp.

dad · 01-16-2009, 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by LiquidZ

The Stillen gen 3's were producing a good 16-18 hp on various cars. I think these would be a great addition.

I did a search and found these, you guys be the judge!

Whats your thoughts on Stillen Intakes? - ChicagoZ.com- A Forum for Everything Nissan Z, 350z, 370z, Infiniti G35, G37, GTR, and MORE!

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LiquidZ · 01-16-2009, 08:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nismo 370z

Those are Stillens claims. I dont think any intake setup will add 16hp. If we are lucky we will get maximum 5-7whp.

Nope! Independent test.

Here is one: MyG37 - View Single Post - Review Stillen 3G Intake Review + Dyno

I'll keep my eye out for me.

3SeventyZ · 01-18-2009, 08:32 AM

In for an opinion after install.

semtex · 01-18-2009, 09:26 AM

Haven't really driven it enough since install to form much of an opinion. Initial impression is that throttle response is slightly improved. Nothing earth shattering though, not that I was expecting any huge difference. This might sound stupid, but for me, this was more a matter of principle than an expectation of real gains -- I just don't like paper filters!

tvfreakazoid · 01-18-2009, 07:05 PM

Pictures plz!

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Originally Posted by MC@MYGTR

on the HR 350z motor the drop ins were good for about 4hp on the dyno in my buddies car ive got them in my GTR and someone recently dynoed them on a GTR and saw no real gains

but regardless of gains you are getting more airflow and they last a long time even without reoiling them

so they arnt a waste i dont think

Fries · 01-19-2009, 01:18 AM

Will look stock dude. Its stock air box with a drop in filter. Go look at a stock motor, there's your picture.

01-19-2009, 01:41 AM

I had a drop in on my 350z before I got an AEM CAI. I liked it.

Intakes wont be any noticeable power though, just gives a louder growl out of the engine.

tvfreakazoid · 01-19-2009, 03:10 AM

NM i get it now LOL. Sorry newbie here and I don't know all the words yet.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fries

Will look stock dude. Its stock air box with a drop in filter. Go look at a stock motor, there's your picture.

semtex · 01-19-2009, 09:17 AM

I should have probably phrased my original question about whether or not it'd be a 'waste of money' a little better. I know that we get better airflow through a K&N vs. paper filters, so from that basic standpoint it's not a waste of money. What I was really trying to work through in my head, however, is how far off we are from getting a good CAI from, say, Stillen on the market. Because if we only need to wait a month or so before they release one, then it'd be a waste of money to spend $100+ on drop-in K&Ns only to take them out just a few weeks later, not to mention spending another $400+ on the CAI. On the other hand, if it's going to be like 6 months before a decent CAI will be released, then it makes more sense to go ahead and get the K&Ns. Of course, I'm guessing that none of us are clairvoyant about future release dates on this stuff, so ultimately there's no way to answer this question objectively anyway.

Endgame · 01-19-2009, 10:41 AM

Well... If I had my Z now, I would get the K&N's. I would not settle on a CAI until we have a bit more tangible gains that are dyno proven. Just because the Stillen made power on the G37 doesn't mean it will make power on the Z.

Just my thinking...

MC · 01-19-2009, 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by tvfreakazoid

Pictures plz!

of they dyno results? i dont have any wasnt my car.. the guy got it dynoed at national speed a sponsor on mygtr... i just know he called me and told me they ran it 3 times and it was about 4hp to the wheels over baseline every single time

Crash · 01-19-2009, 02:14 PM

^^^ LOL! That would be just enough to make up for the weight of the bubble gum you're chewing!

Nismo 370z · 01-19-2009, 06:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Endgame

Well... If I had my Z now, I would get the K&N's. I would not settle on a CAI until we have a bit more tangible gains that are dyno proven. Just because the Stillen made power on the G37 doesn't mean it will make power on the Z.

Just my thinking...

+1 Agreed. If i had my 370z now, I would keep the stock intake until there is a proven setup that works well. Everyone thought that CAI's would produce power on the 350z and most of them showed no gains and even lost power so that turned me in the other direction of going with a CAI setup. Now I have the pop charger which gives a great sound and I picked up 4whp from it. Ill just wait until there are more intake setups for the Z and people will have their car tuned with real world results.

01-18-2009, 08:32 AM	#20 (permalink)
3SeventyZ Track Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: MD/DE Posts: 626 Drives: 350Z, 370Z, SRT8 Rep Power: 476	In for an opinion after install. __________________ 2009 Magnetic Black 370Z Sport 6MT

01-18-2009, 09:26 AM	#21 (permalink)
semtex A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Behind enemy lines Age: 54 Posts: 5,995 Drives: People to drink Rep Power: 32	Haven't really driven it enough since install to form much of an opinion. Initial impression is that throttle response is slightly improved. Nothing earth shattering though, not that I was expecting any huge difference. This might sound stupid, but for me, this was more a matter of principle than an expectation of real gains -- I just don't like paper filters! __________________ "There are no small accidents on this circuit." -- Ayrton Senna 316.8whp & 248 ft/lbs (Dyno Dynamics) \| 319whp & 256 ft/lbs (DynoJet) (04/23/10) Stillen G3 CAI, CBE, Pulley / F.I. LTH / GTSpec Ladder Brace / Setrab Oil Cooler / UpRev-tuned by Forged Perf.

01-19-2009, 01:18 AM	#23 (permalink)
Fries Base Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Fort Riley, KS Posts: 14 Drives: Kouki S14-Zenki S13 Rep Power: 16	Will look stock dude. Its stock air box with a drop in filter. Go look at a stock motor, there's your picture. __________________

01-19-2009, 09:17 AM	#26 (permalink)
semtex A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Behind enemy lines Age: 54 Posts: 5,995 Drives: People to drink Rep Power: 32	I should have probably phrased my original question about whether or not it'd be a 'waste of money' a little better. I know that we get better airflow through a K&N vs. paper filters, so from that basic standpoint it's not a waste of money. What I was really trying to work through in my head, however, is how far off we are from getting a good CAI from, say, Stillen on the market. Because if we only need to wait a month or so before they release one, then it'd be a waste of money to spend $100+ on drop-in K&Ns only to take them out just a few weeks later, not to mention spending another $400+ on the CAI. On the other hand, if it's going to be like 6 months before a decent CAI will be released, then it makes more sense to go ahead and get the K&Ns. Of course, I'm guessing that none of us are clairvoyant about future release dates on this stuff, so ultimately there's no way to answer this question objectively anyway. __________________ "There are no small accidents on this circuit." -- Ayrton Senna 316.8whp & 248 ft/lbs (Dyno Dynamics) \| 319whp & 256 ft/lbs (DynoJet) (04/23/10) Stillen G3 CAI, CBE, Pulley / F.I. LTH / GTSpec Ladder Brace / Setrab Oil Cooler / UpRev-tuned by Forged Perf.

01-19-2009, 02:14 PM	#29 (permalink)
Crash A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 1,853 Drives: 02 Corvette Z06 Rep Power: 590	^^^ LOL! That would be just enough to make up for the weight of the bubble gum you're chewing! __________________ 2002 Corvette Z06 - Totaled 2003 Corvette Z06 50th Anniversary

01-16-2009, 11:51 AM	#16 (permalink)
LiquidZ A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Columbus, OH Posts: 1,940 Drives: Mag. Black 2009 370Z Rep Power: 705	The Stillen gen 3's were producing a good 16-18 hp on various cars. I think these would be a great addition.

01-16-2009, 04:33 PM	#17 (permalink)
Nismo 370z Base Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: LA, California Posts: 91 Drives: 2012 GM Nismo 370z Rep Power: 481	Those are Stillens claims. I dont think any intake setup will add 16hp. If we are lucky we will get maximum 5-7whp.

01-19-2009, 01:41 AM	#24 (permalink)
blue660r01 Guest Posts: n/a	I had a drop in on my 350z before I got an AEM CAI. I liked it. Intakes wont be any noticeable power though, just gives a louder growl out of the engine.

01-19-2009, 10:41 AM	#27 (permalink)
Endgame A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Phoenix Posts: 1,613 Drives: Nothing Now! Rep Power: 224	Well... If I had my Z now, I would get the K&N's. I would not settle on a CAI until we have a bit more tangible gains that are dyno proven. Just because the Stillen made power on the G37 doesn't mean it will make power on the Z. Just my thinking...

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