V6 X-pipe VS H-pipe flow test

MrNibiru · 10-05-2020, 10:25 AM

I am looking into a replacement exhaust for the Borla Type-S which came on the car when I bought it. I ran across this while searching V6 exhaust on other platforms as I felt what is good for the gander. Apparently the H-pipe flows better for top end power, while the X-pipe flows better for low end power.

I have only seen 2 exhaust which use an X-pipe while searching. The Invidia Gemini and the Greddy Evolution G. It's seems most use an H-pipe. I think the Borla Type-S does and the factory oem Nismo exhaust does which he took off the car. Not really sure why he even changed it as the car doesn't seem louder than stock. Luckily he gave it to the dealership if I want to swap it back on. I'm almost tempted to just put the oem one back on and just change add headers and high flow cats.

Does anyone know if there is a significant gain of hp/tq for a modified car using 2.25" piping vs 2.5" piping?

If you have any suggestions on exhaust let me know and please include a dyno showing the gains. Here is a link to the video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2crCWF5cmLk

Cyber370 · 10-05-2020, 11:35 AM

The Ark exhausts have 2.5 diameter piping and probably the nicest X-pipe in the industry. It’s what convinced me to go with the Ark DT-S. By the way, the Nismo OEM system has an X-pipe not a H.

MrNibiru · 10-05-2020, 12:07 PM

According to this thread it's an H-pipe as found on the R-Tune exhaust.

https://my350z.com/forum/2009-370z/4...formation.html

MrNibiru · 10-05-2020, 12:20 PM

Yeah all 3 of these look great but I think I am leaning towards the Greddy since the piping looks like it would flow a lot better. Then again I heard the Greddy is mad loud and I want something liveable so maybe Invidia.

https://ibb.co/tHqhBTL
https://ibb.co/KxNK6JC
https://ibb.co/dBRPn6X

Cyber370 · 10-05-2020, 05:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrNibiru

According to this thread it's an H-pipe as found on the R-Tune exhaust.

https://my350z.com/forum/2009-370z/4...formation.html

I stand corrected. Just went and check my Nismo OEM exhaust in storage and it is an H-pipe.

MrNibiru · 10-06-2020, 10:15 AM

I might just keep the Borla on for the first fbo and bolt ons. I mean it's what's on the car so might as well give it a shot.

Spooler · 10-06-2020, 01:43 PM

Check into Fast Intentions. You want dyno numbers, they are on their webpage or here.

Cyber370 · 10-06-2020, 03:24 PM

For any one interested, here is a pic of the X-pipe on the Ark DT-S system. Took it before installation. Quite impressive.
A973BDF9-3CE6-4D82-BFA3-6666674241A9.jpg

Per Ark website, this system is good for 10 whp and 9 wtq.

dave11 · 10-06-2020, 05:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrNibiru

According to this thread it's an H-pipe as found on the R-Tune exhaust.

https://my350z.com/forum/2009-370z/4...formation.html

You are correct. It is an H-pipe. I had the R-Tune installed. I drove a new Nismo before I bought the R-Tune. I may be half deaf, but I couldn't hear much, if any, difference sound in sound between my car and the Nismo. There is a huge difference in sound between the stock Nismo exhaust and the R-Tune.

It is a little louder than stock, but it is MUCH more melodious. I can't tell any difference in power, but I mash on the pedal more just to listen to the music.

MrNibiru · 10-19-2020, 11:50 AM

I decided to go with the Nismo R-Tune Exhaust because it is 2.5" and the fact it's Nismo. I felt that it's only right to put a Nismo exhaust on a Nismo. The exhaust also uses an H-pipe. I really wish I could do back to back dyno with an X-pipe vs H-pipe to see which makes the most power on the cars. But I think the power is negligible. I think it all comes to sound.

viiv · 10-19-2020, 12:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrNibiru

I decided to go with the Nismo R-Tune Exhaust because it is 2.5" and the fact it's Nismo. I felt that it's only right to put a Nismo exhaust on a Nismo. The exhaust also uses an H-pipe. I really wish I could do back to back dyno with an X-pipe vs H-pipe to see which makes the most power on the cars. But I think the power is negligible. I think it all comes to sound.

Please post feedback after you get it installed! Does it take away from any of the high-pitched VQ whine?

MrNibiru · 10-19-2020, 03:56 PM

The exhaust on the car currently is a Borla S-type which was installed by the previous owner. All I can let you know is what it sounds like now and what it will sound like. I'll do a before and after video of the sound.

Cyber370 · 10-19-2020, 05:21 PM

The only thing I don’t like about the R-tune exhaust is the single layer exhaust tips. The OEM Nismo tips are resonated double-layered. But since they’re removable, they can always be changed. Enjoy and post up some sound clips once installed.

viiv · 10-19-2020, 06:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cyber370

The only thing I don’t like about the R-tune exhaust is the single layer exhaust tips. The OEM Nismo tips are resonated double-layered. But since they’re removable, they can always be changed. Enjoy and post up some sound clips once installed.

Yes, I see the Nismo S-tune and Nismo titanium exhaust are double layer. I wonder if you can order the tips from an S-Tune and mount them.

husam2012 · 10-19-2020, 09:22 PM

Both are very close to each other. For these cars, it seems like Y-pipe style exhausts make the best top end.

I compared a dual 2.5" exhaust w/ an X pipe to a motordyne style exhaust with a 3 inch mid section back to dual 3inch and it picked up about 6-10 whp.

In theory, the dual 2.5 inch flows more but the Y style made more power.

10-05-2020, 10:25 AM	#1 (permalink)
MrNibiru Base Member Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: Dallas, Texas Posts: 29 Drives: 2012 Nismo 370Z Rep Power: 10	V6 X-pipe VS H-pipe flow test I am looking into a replacement exhaust for the Borla Type-S which came on the car when I bought it. I ran across this while searching V6 exhaust on other platforms as I felt what is good for the gander. Apparently the H-pipe flows better for top end power, while the X-pipe flows better for low end power. I have only seen 2 exhaust which use an X-pipe while searching. The Invidia Gemini and the Greddy Evolution G. It's seems most use an H-pipe. I think the Borla Type-S does and the factory oem Nismo exhaust does which he took off the car. Not really sure why he even changed it as the car doesn't seem louder than stock. Luckily he gave it to the dealership if I want to swap it back on. I'm almost tempted to just put the oem one back on and just change add headers and high flow cats. Does anyone know if there is a significant gain of hp/tq for a modified car using 2.25" piping vs 2.5" piping? If you have any suggestions on exhaust let me know and please include a dyno showing the gains. Here is a link to the video. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2crCWF5cmLk

10-05-2020, 11:35 AM	#2 (permalink)
Cyber370 Track Member Join Date: Jul 2016 Location: Montreal, QC Canada Posts: 679 Drives: 2016 370Z Nismo 6MT Rep Power: 19372	The Ark exhausts have 2.5 diameter piping and probably the nicest X-pipe in the industry. It’s what convinced me to go with the Ark DT-S. By the way, the Nismo OEM system has an X-pipe not a H. __________________ "That’s when you know you’ve found somebody special. When you can just shut the fck up for a minute and comfortably enjoy the silence.”-Mia (Pulp Fiction)*

10-05-2020, 12:07 PM	#3 (permalink)
MrNibiru Base Member Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: Dallas, Texas Posts: 29 Drives: 2012 Nismo 370Z Rep Power: 10	OEM Nismo flow path. According to this thread it's an H-pipe as found on the R-Tune exhaust. https://my350z.com/forum/2009-370z/4...formation.html

10-05-2020, 12:20 PM	#4 (permalink)
MrNibiru Base Member Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: Dallas, Texas Posts: 29 Drives: 2012 Nismo 370Z Rep Power: 10	Yeah all 3 of these look great but I think I am leaning towards the Greddy since the piping looks like it would flow a lot better. Then again I heard the Greddy is mad loud and I want something liveable so maybe Invidia. https://ibb.co/tHqhBTL https://ibb.co/KxNK6JC https://ibb.co/dBRPn6X Last edited by MrNibiru; 10-05-2020 at 12:44 PM.

10-06-2020, 01:43 PM	#7 (permalink)
Spooler A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Ga Posts: 13,830 Drives: 2013 Nismo 370z Rep Power: 2684392	Check into Fast Intentions. You want dyno numbers, they are on their webpage or here. Darketch and jchammond like this. Last edited by Spooler; 10-06-2020 at 01:46 PM.

10-06-2020, 10:15 AM	#6 (permalink)
MrNibiru Base Member Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: Dallas, Texas Posts: 29 Drives: 2012 Nismo 370Z Rep Power: 10	I might just keep the Borla on for the first fbo and bolt ons. I mean it's what's on the car so might as well give it a shot.

10-06-2020, 03:24 PM	#8 (permalink)
Cyber370 Track Member Join Date: Jul 2016 Location: Montreal, QC Canada Posts: 679 Drives: 2016 370Z Nismo 6MT Rep Power: 19372	For any one interested, here is a pic of the X-pipe on the Ark DT-S system. Took it before installation. Quite impressive. A973BDF9-3CE6-4D82-BFA3-6666674241A9.jpg Per Ark website, this system is good for 10 whp and 9 wtq. __________________ "That’s when you know you’ve found somebody special. When you can just shut the fck up for a minute and comfortably enjoy the silence.”-Mia (Pulp Fiction)* Last edited by Cyber370; 10-06-2020 at 03:27 PM.

10-19-2020, 11:50 AM	#10 (permalink)
MrNibiru Base Member Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: Dallas, Texas Posts: 29 Drives: 2012 Nismo 370Z Rep Power: 10	Nismo R-Tune I decided to go with the Nismo R-Tune Exhaust because it is 2.5" and the fact it's Nismo. I felt that it's only right to put a Nismo exhaust on a Nismo. The exhaust also uses an H-pipe. I really wish I could do back to back dyno with an X-pipe vs H-pipe to see which makes the most power on the cars. But I think the power is negligible. I think it all comes to sound.

10-19-2020, 03:56 PM	#12 (permalink)
MrNibiru Base Member Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: Dallas, Texas Posts: 29 Drives: 2012 Nismo 370Z Rep Power: 10	Borla to Nismo The exhaust on the car currently is a Borla S-type which was installed by the previous owner. All I can let you know is what it sounds like now and what it will sound like. I'll do a before and after video of the sound.

10-19-2020, 05:21 PM	#13 (permalink)
Cyber370 Track Member Join Date: Jul 2016 Location: Montreal, QC Canada Posts: 679 Drives: 2016 370Z Nismo 6MT Rep Power: 19372	The only thing I don’t like about the R-tune exhaust is the single layer exhaust tips. The OEM Nismo tips are resonated double-layered. But since they’re removable, they can always be changed. Enjoy and post up some sound clips once installed. __________________ "That’s when you know you’ve found somebody special. When you can just shut the fck up for a minute and comfortably enjoy the silence.”-Mia (Pulp Fiction)*

10-19-2020, 09:22 PM	#15 (permalink)
husam2012 Track Member Join Date: Mar 2015 Location: Michigan Posts: 550 Drives: 370Z Nismo Rep Power: 9469	Both are very close to each other. For these cars, it seems like Y-pipe style exhausts make the best top end. I compared a dual 2.5" exhaust w/ an X pipe to a motordyne style exhaust with a 3 inch mid section back to dual 3inch and it picked up about 6-10 whp. In theory, the dual 2.5 inch flows more but the Y style made more power. __________________ Creator of the GTR TT Conversion Kit, NA Record Holder (401WHP) Ecutek Master Tuner (VQ37, VR30, VR38, B58, S55, S58) BTWTuning

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